10/24/2024

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Operator

Hello and welcome to XFAB Quarter 3, 2024 results conference call. My name is Alicia and I will be your coordinator for today's event. Please note, this call is being recorded and for the duration of the call, your lives will be on listen only. However, you will have the opportunity to ask questions at the end of the call. This can be done by pressing star one on your telephone keypad to register your question. If you require assistance at any point, please press star zero and you will be connected to an operator. I will now hand you over to Rudy De Winter, CEO, and Alva Morgantini, CFO. Thank you.

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Rudy De Winter

Thank you for the introduction, Alicia. In the third quarter, we recorded revenues of $206 million, down 12% year-on-year, and 1% up quarter-on-quarter. This compares to a guidance of $205 to $250. Revenues in our core markets, automotive, industrial and medical, accounted for 190 million, flat compared to previous quarter and down 8% year-on-year. The bookings were up 4% year-on-year, with a book-to-bill of 1.05 in the third quarter. The backlog came in at 481 million compared to 517 million end of the previous quarter. The decrease in backlog is related to long-term orders worth under $14 million, for which delivery dates are not yet confirmed at the end of the quarter. These longer-term orders for deliveries in the year 2025-2026 will be added to the backlog in the next months. In the third quarter, our automotive business grew 8% year-on-year. While automotive bookings weakened due to year-end inventory adjustments and general destocking, the picture is mixed on the automotive side. Our China automotive business has grown with 55% year-on-year and 38% quarter-on-quarter, while EU and US investments automotive bookings weakened. Our industrial and medical business decreased 41% and 29% respectively. And the current market trends and uncertainties have led to destocking activities and delays across the entire supply chain. However, order intake in the industrial and medical end markets picked up strongly in the third quarter. The consumer communication and computer business bottomed out, and it grew 13% compared to previous quarter, with a strong booking of book-to-bill just above 2. The CMOS business declined slightly year-on-year. Demand for XFAB Popular's 180 nanometer CMOS platform remained healthy. On the new 110 BCD SOI platform technology, several new prototypes were started for future high-volume applications. The bookings for 350 nanometer CMOS technology dropped due to inventory corrections. The older 0.6 micron CMOS technologies on 150 millimeter revived after we announced a discontinuation for these technologies as per end of 2026. This decision was taken to support the ongoing transition to the micro-systems business in our factory in Erfurt. Customers responded with high-order volumes while initiating design activities to work on successor products. The upturn in 0.6 micron business is expected to contribute positively to the revenue from the fourth quarter onwards. The third quarter silicon carbide sales continue to decline in a weak market environment and decreased 60% year-on-year. The visibility remains low. However, the silicon carbide development activities have been encouraging, especially for the next generation technology that comes with improved design performance, and a 30% increase in dyes per wafer. Combined with the recent reduction in silicon carbide substrate prices, this presents a potential of 40% cost improvement for the final silicon carbide devices, enabling new demand. As such, as soon as the silicon carbide market picks up, these new high-performance designs will increase contribute to the future growth of the silicon car business. In the third quarter, the microsystems business recorded a decline of 11% year-on-year, reflecting current market weakness. Inventory adjustments in the automotive industry and delays in new model launches have particularly impacted the microsystems business in the third quarter. The medical and end market, typically a strong driver of microsystem sales, has also been affected by destocking, but is expected to contribute positively in the future due to healthy bookings. Quarterly prototyping revenues totaled $23 million, down 14% year-on-year, and up 12% against the previous quarter. The fundamental drivers for expert business remain intact. These include the growth of semiconductor content in cars and the electrification of everything to drive the decarbonization of our world and the digitalization of the medical sector to make healthcare more efficient. Our comprehensive set of technologies and expertise enable customers to develop world-leading solutions for most important challenges. facing our world. Our business is expected to return to robust growth once the current destocking cycle is completed. Let's move now to the operations update. In the third quarter, we continue our capacity expansion programs with a focus on our popular 180 nanometer and 110 nanometer CMOS technologies. at the factories in France and Malaysia. The newly constructed cleanroom at our Malaysian site is ready and the first equipments are moved in. The expansion of the CMOS capacity is also critical to support the microsystems business. Microsystems are based on CMOS wafers to which specialized MEMS layers are added. With the planned discontinuation of the 0.6 micron CMOS business in Erfurt, the site is well on track to entirely focus on the manufacturing of complex microsystems in the future as of 2027. The silicon carbide capacity expansions at our Texas FAP, which has been slowed in line with current market demands, will be resumed as soon as the silicon market recovers and long-term customer commitments require additional capacity. In addition, we aim to further increase the portion of customers who source their own silicon carbide raw wafers and consign them to XFAP, resulting in a lower total billing as this is less pass-through for substrates sourced by us. Due to Due to both the lower installed capacity and the decision to optimize the portion of customer-consigned silicon carbide wafers, the overall silicon carbide revenue targeting for $300 to $350 million in 2026 is no longer achievable. This will result in changes in the timing and the product mix of our XFAP growth path going forward. Total capital expenditure in the third quarter came in at $150 million, thereof about two-thirds related to the expansion in our factory in Malaysia. We reiterate the CAPEX projections for the full year of 2024 in the amount of about $550 million. Most of the Malaysian capex expansion will be delivered by end of first quarter 2025, and from there onwards, there will be a significant drop in the capex spending. An operational incident in our factory in Malaysia caused a three-day production slowdown in the third quarter. This has been fully resolved, and rework of the affected material is underway. It will, however, shift revenue also from the fourth quarter into the first quarter 25 in the range of 15 to 20 million. Let me now pass the word to Alba for the financials.

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Alicia

Thank you, Rudy. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. We will now move to the financial update. I would like to start this financial section by highlighting that the third quarter we succeeded to increase quarter on quarter growth margin by 14% and a BDA by 5%. EBIT by 9% while the revenue increased by 1% totalizing $206.4 million. These were within the guide at 205 to $215 million. Our quarterly EBDA was of $50.3 million with an EBDA margin of 24.4%. If we exclude the positive impact from revenues recognized over time, the EBDA margin of the third quarter would have been 23.5%. As usual, our profitability was not affected by any exchange rate fluctuation. as our business is naturally hedged. At a constant US dollar-euro exchange rate of 1.09, as experienced in the previous year's quarter, the EBITDA margin would have been 0.1 percentage points lower. Cash and cash equivalent at the end of the third quarter remain very healthy and amounted to about $316 million. And to conclude this financial section, I would like to share our guidance for the last quarter of 2024 and give you an update on full year's perspective. Fourth quarter revenue is expected to come in within a range of $195 to $205 million with an EBITDA margin in the range of 22 to 25%. The guidance is based on an average exchange rate of 1.1 US dollar to Euro and does not take into account the impact related to IFRS 15. As you can see, we have adjusted our full year revenue guidance from 860, 880 million down to 822 to 832 million dollar. In the full year, ABDA margin guidance has also been adjusted to 23.4% to 24%. And now I would like to give the word back to Rudy.

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Rudy De Winter

Thank you, Alma. On the short term, the automotive business is mixed. We see strong growth in China and a weaker market in the other regions due to inventory adjustments impacting demand. portions of our business. The long-term outlook remains positive. I am excited about our new silicon carbide technology modules with great advantages for our customers. I am confident in the unique technologies we offer and the high growth and markets we are serving, putting us in the right position to address today's challenges and deliver sustainable growth. As soon as the market begins to recover, our order patterns will change rapidly. With the progress we are making with our capacity expansion programs, we will be able and we will be prepared for our customer needs, especially with the increased capacity on 180 nanometers technology, and we will return to solid growth. With this, I would like to conclude and open for questions, Alicia.

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Operator

Thank you. As a reminder, if you would like to ask a question or make a contribution on today's call, please press that one on your telephone. To answer your question, please press that too. We'll start with the first question from Michael Roig from D Group Petercom. Your line is open. Thank you.

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Michael Roig

Good evening. I have a couple of questions. The first questions I have is on the operational incident in Malaysia. Can you elaborate a bit what happened there and what kind of measures you will be implementing to prevent this mishap from occurring again in the future?

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Rudy De Winter

It was related to an impurity in a chemical system. And so that was recovered after three days. However, it requires a review and rework of material that was in the fab. So, yeah, of course, there are measures taken to avoid that going forward. Such an event has been very rare. We have been using that chemical with the suppliers for 30 years. So we're taking measures that that doesn't happen again.

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Michael Roig

Did you have to destroy the entire wafers, or could you grind a couple of layers and continue from where the mishap started?

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Rudy De Winter

No, actually the products are, most of the products are good, but it requires kind of additional testing and rework or replacement for some of the others.

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Michael Roig

Okay, so not a whole lot was destroyed and costs that you could not recover. Okay, and then this could also happen, of course, in other FAPs that you operate. So that would also adjust the procedures there.

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Rudy De Winter

Well, there is controls on those chemicals and there are tests that are done. So in a factory we use, yeah, loads of different chemicals with all extremely tight and ultra-pure chemicals. And, yeah, so it's a lot of... FMEAs and things are in place to avoid things that happen, but sometimes you can have an extrusion.

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Michael Roig

Okay, good. The next couple of questions I have is on price negotiations for 2025. That is typically something that would be happening, well, in this period of the year. Is it likely that we'll see a return to the usual price erosion of the past in general? And then, considering that silicon carbide wafer prices have been sliding quite strongly, is it likely that there will be more price pressure in that part of the business than in your plain vanilla silicon business?

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Rudy De Winter

So, there is indeed... On the one hand, we have our three yearly, for quite some business, three yearly LTA, where 25 is still included. So the price evolution is moderate, but there is, in some cases, we have price negotiations and concessions, but they're very moderate. On the silicon carbide, that's a different topic. As you know, the substrates are a very substantial cost of the end product, and XFAP doesn't take any margin on those substrates. So for customers who consign the substrates, they have, of course, they see the saving themselves directly when they source them. For customers who buy through XFAP, we pass through the savings that we can achieve from those substrates. And so they are bigger, they are substantial.

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Michael Roig

Okay. And then following up on that, Q4 is typically the quarter in which some customers do some inventory adjustments and there's a bit more uncertainty than usual. Do you think that some of these customers are holding off on ordering, especially because they think that next year they can get lower prices than in Q4?

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Rudy De Winter

No, I don't think that's the main reason. For instance, in China, as I explained, it is mixed in different regions. So some areas like in China were doing very well. the rest of the world automotive is weaker. What I think what happened is that throughout the supply chain, so as well as ICSA, but our customers, but also the OEMs over the past years, they have been pushing LTAs and maybe this is resulted into higher inventories, and what we see right now is that because there is no shortage anymore of chips, that suddenly everyone went back to the old habits and tried to optimize their inventories and so forth, and that's where we're going through. Because worldwide the car sales is relatively stable and holding up well. It's not such a big variation, but you do see a shift to China where there is a lot of electric vehicles with a lot of electronics. And so we see also there strong growth. And as you know, in Europe or the rest of the world, electric vehicles have, Growth is less than planned, and this has caused disruption in the supply chains and corrections that are happening. On top of that, you have the typical end-of-year inventory optimization that comes on top. So I expect that in the early next year, things to resume there.

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Michael Roig

Do you also see very different behavior from your Chinese customers in automotive who continue to order, whereas European and U.S. customers may be indeed old enough?

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Rudy De Winter

I think that the growth that we see in China is because the China electric vehicle market is going very strongly, and so I think they have less inventories are in a growth mode and that's what we're seeing in our bookings.

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Michael Roig

Okay, then the final questions and then I'll leave the floor for others is about prepayments. Can you tell me when will you start supplying waivers to your customers that will be charged against the prepayments? And can you sort of guide for a quarterly rate That will be the case next year.

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Alicia

Actually, the system is a bit different. We received prepayments in advance, so at the beginning of the contract, for the full period of the three years, if it's a three-year contract, in the range of 10% to 15% of the total amount. And we have, depending on the contract, there is a general, a fixed amount which is repaid. So it could, in most of the cases, is quarterly, and the big amounts will start next year, and a big portion end of next year, in terms of repayment. Smaller amounts have been already started to be repaid in 2024, but the vast majority will start end of next year. So it's not linked to production, actually.

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Rudy De Winter

Okay. And it is spread roughly over a period of three years.

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Michael Roig

So three years starting end of next year. That's the big part. And then how would you define substantial on a quarterly basis? Is that $10 million or $20 million?

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Rudy De Winter

You can assume that as of second half next year that it is roughly – the full amount spread over three years.

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Michael Roig

Okay, good. Clear divided by 12 quarters then. Okay, that's it from my side. Thank you.

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Operator

Thank you. We currently have no more questions coming through. As a final reminder, if you would like to ask a question, please press that one now. We've got now one more question from Guy Sips from KBC Securities. Your line is open now.

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Guy Sips

Yes. Yes, thank you. Can you elaborate a little bit more on the CAPEX for next year? So in the first quarter, what amount do you expect to allocate on the first quarter 2025 from CAPEX? Thank you.

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Rudy De Winter

Yeah, so roughly, I don't have that well prepared with me, but you can assume maybe something in the range of 150 million for the first quarter. And then the rest of the year, it will drop significantly somewhere closer to 50 million or so per quarter. But that's, we're still working on those details, but that's the order of magnitudes you need to count.

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Guy Sips

So then it would total closer to 300 million.

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Rudy De Winter

For the, yeah, so with a big chunk in the first quarter and significant reduction.

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Alicia

Yeah, that's what we aim, yeah.

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Guy Sips

And on the Malaysian incident, how much of this, yeah, sales do you expect to come in the first quarter? And is that on top of the normal, let's say a normal business that you would generate in the first quarter or is that, yeah?

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Rudy De Winter

Yeah, so this is, yeah, as mentioned, it's about 10 to, 15 to 20 million that is shifted that would probably will not be able to finish this year and that is shifted in the, in the first quarter, but maybe some business from the first quarter might be shifted to the second quarter, so the exact revenues for the first quarter, it's not that this business is gone, but it is a delayed delivery.

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Guy Sips

Okay, thank you.

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Operator

Thank you. We've got one more question from Robert Sanders from Deutsche Bank. The line is open now.

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Robert Sanders

Yeah, hi, good evening. I just had a few sort of housekeeping questions on the balance sheet. I saw you raised some debt in the quarter. Are you drawing down on the facility? Are you just tapping the market? How are you going about raising debt presently? Thank you.

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Alicia

Yeah, hi, Rob. So we signed a new revolving credit facility on 31st of July this year of another 200 million euro, again for five years commitment. And so this is on top of the previous one of also 200 million euro that we raised on 1st December 2021. Bilaterally, we also had some sale and lease back and leasing contracts. and a couple of other bilateral facilities that we signed in the recent few months. So this is the current structure. And of course, the majority is to finance the CAPEX, definitely.

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Robert Sanders

And how much of the two revolvers have you drawn down on?

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Alicia

Okay, we only drawn down about, on the first one, we are in the range of I think around 190 million, 94 maybe. We haven't started to draw under the second one yet. Because this is also mainly to finance the CapEx of Kuching, which we could reduce a bit the needs, well, push out the needs actually. This is the good news.

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Robert Sanders

And on the CAPEX, why are you not slamming on the brakes? Every one of your peers is slamming on the brakes on CAPEX, but you continue to have the same plan, which is very strange to me. So please help us understand.

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Rudy De Winter

Because we have urgent needs for this capacity, so it's complicated. The capacity expansion is for 180 nanometer and 110 nanometer, but in particularly for 180 nanometer and 180 nanometer BCD on SOI for which we are still in allocation and see strong demand going forward. And so we're really pushing the throttle to get the machines In the fab, up and running and producing.

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Robert Sanders

Right. Is there not a way you can reduce your capex costs by going into the secondary market? Because, you know, there is a lot of idle capacity out there.

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Rudy De Winter

Well, these machines, they were ordered a year ago or two years ago. We cannot cancel them.

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Robert Sanders

Okay. And just in terms of the slowdown, sorry, actually, in coming back to this, the strange comment you made about the backlog. So on the backlog, you said orders were higher than sales. Your backlog went up sequentially. No, sorry, it went down sequentially. But even though your backlog, your orders were higher than your sales, because you've taken out $114 million of orders for which delivery date has not been confirmed. Why have you got unconfirmed orders in your backlog in the first place?

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Rudy De Winter

Well, that is a technicality. So the way we manage our or count our backlog is that the backlog is for orders that are scheduled and with a firm delivery date. And because of this last time by, there are quite some orders, to be precise, 114 million, that as of today, we have not scheduled a precise delivery date. So that will be done in the next couple of months and quarters. and some of those will stretch up to end 2026. So you could say that the actual backlog is the 481 plus the 114, but technically because they have not set a scheduled delivery date, they are not counted in backlog in our internal systems.

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Robert Sanders

So they are unconcerned orders as opposed to confirmed orders?

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Rudy De Winter

Yes.

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Robert Sanders

Okay. And did they just get taken out of the backlog in the last quarter?

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Rudy De Winter

No, no, no. These are orders that came in in the second and the third quarter that we have never, they have not been in the backlog yet.

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Robert Sanders

Okay. Okay. Fair enough. And then just on the automotive backdrop, what have you actually seen from your customers since the sharp slowdown in the automotive industry in the last two months? You know, what has been the impact on your business at a farm?

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Rudy De Winter

Well, we see slower bookings from our European and U.S. automotive customers.

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Robert Sanders

Okay, thank you.

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Operator

Thank you. We currently have no more questions coming through. As a final reminder, if you would like to ask a question, please press that one. It seems we don't have further questions, so I will hand it back to Rudy to conclude today's conference. Thank you.

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Rudy De Winter

Thank you, Alicia. With this, I would like them to close the call and hear you all back on the 6th of February for the full year results. Thank you and have a good evening.

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