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ABB Ltd
10/16/2025
Greetings and welcome to this presentation of ABB's third quarter results. Next to me here is our CEO, Moten Virud, and our CFO, Timo Jammotila. I'm Ansa Finod, head of the investor relations team. Moten and Timo will talk through the results and then we will, as usual, open up for Q&A. And with that said, I hand over to you, Moten, to kick off the presentation.
Thanks, Ansi. And welcome also from my side. Summarizing the trading climate in the third quarter, I would say that this was very similar to what we saw in the second quarter. When I talk to our business leaders and when I meet with our customers, there are no material differences in what they say and do. So despite continued news flow and uncertainty related to US tariffs, our customers continue to invest behind electrical power and automation. There are, of course, differences between segments. Some are very strong and some still challenging, and I will come back to these details. But overall, we see good demand for our offering. The high order level with 9% growth is one key highlight in the quarter. Another strong point for me is the free cash flow of $1.6 billion. In total, I'm pleased with the quarter. We keep moving ABB in a positive direction. We improved on virtually all lines of the income statement. Strong revenue growth, improved earnings, margin and EPS. I want to give credit to the team for a job really well done. I also want to mention the robotics announcement. Last week, we informed about our decision to sell the robotics division to SoftBank Group. This is a change from our original plan to spin the business as a separately listed company. But first, let's focus on the quarter and then come back to robotics at the end. So let's look at what drove our orders to increase by a comparable 9%, reaching $9.1 billion. This time, all four business areas improved comparable orders in the range of 4 to 17%. We had a stable to positive development in most of the customer segments. And we were up in our service, short and long cycle businesses. I mentioned that there are differences between the customer segments. Data centres continues to stand out on the strong side and orders increased at a double digit pace. The utilities market remains strong and land transport infrastructure continues to benefit from upgrades of electrical equipment. The building segment was positive, helped by the commercial market. In the energy-related area, there was a positive development in the oil and gas segment. The demand in renewables declined, but we see increased activity in our nuclear business. Similar to previous quarters, the process industry area was slow, and within discrete automation, it is still challenging in the machine builders segment. That said, we saw sharp order growth in the quarter, but this is more linked to the low comparable when customers were holding back orders after earlier pre-buys. Robotics orders were broadly stable. If you look at the right-hand chart, you see that revenues hit an all-time high of 9.1 billion, up 9% like for like. This was supported by all business areas, with improvements in both the short and long cycle businesses, as well as in service. In total, revenues were high, but orders even higher. So with book to bill at 1.01, we add to the already record high order backlog, which amounts to 25.1 billion. If we instead look at the order intake from a geographical perspective, the Americas was again the main growth engine and increased by 19% like for like. Looking specifically at the US market, orders were up 27%. This high number includes some large bookings, but the improvement was a strong 9% also for base orders. Europe was up by 9% and there was a mixed picture between countries. If we look at Germany, our largest market in Europe, it declined by 4% due to the impact of large bookings from last year. However, base orders in Germany were virtually stable to somewhat positive in all business areas. EMEA declined by 1%, hampered by weakness in China. The general market in India remains strong, although order growth in this quarter was impacted by large bookings last year. Bait sources were up 9% also in India. Backed by higher revenues, we improved operational EBITDA by 12%. And I'm pleased that we start to build a pattern of gross margin above the 40% mark. we have become more efficient in our execution. And as we get higher volumes and some positive pricing, we more than offset the increased spend for R&D and SG&A. You have heard me talk about our local-for-local footprint. And as we have mentioned before, our setup has left tariff-related impacts limited to the tens of millions. All in all, we improved operational EBITDA margin by 20 basis points to 19.2%, which was even a bit better than what we originally expected. It was good to see that our improved business results more than offset the higher corporate and other costs. The corporate line was higher than what we guided for, and this is due to FX hedges on intra-company transaction. Looking at the underlying corporate cost, it was as expected. e-mobility reported a loss of 26 million, which is a step in the right direction. And we expect them to sequentially improve going into Q4. All in all, we improved our net results and EPS was up by 29% to 66 cents. I'm pleased with the third quarter. And now I hand over to you, Timo.
Thanks, Morten. And since we are on the topic of earnings and you also touched on the sale of robotics, I will just quickly mention the upcoming impacts to our reporting. From Q4 25 onwards, we will report the robotics business in discontinued operations. This change triggers some stranded costs until the deal closes. The net effect, however, is close to margin neutral, but let's still go through some specifics. My first point is that in the last 12 months, robotics had orders and revenues of about 2.2 and 2.4 billion respectively. They had operational EBITDA of about 300 million reported in the ABB structure. This will shift to discontinued operations. Secondly, there will be an impact of stranded costs reported in corporate and other until closing of the deal. If we calculate this based on the last 12 months, it represents a negative impact on ABB operational EBITDA margin of about 40 basis points. However, the offset comes from moving robotics to discontinued operations, which will have a positive impact on group margin of similar magnitude. As you know, the robotics business runs at the margin level below group average. To help out, this time you find the guidance framework based on both old and new reporting structure. And we will put restated numbers on the IR website in early December. And with that, let's take a look at what happened in the different business areas, starting with electrification, where we continue to see a strong market environment as customers invest in electrical power. Orders were up 10% on a comparable basis, reaching $4.5 billion. It's encouraging that the strong order growth was supported by a stable to positive development across all customer segments. Datacenter stands out on the positive side and was up by double digit. Utilities is another strong market, although in this quarter orders were broadly stable, with last year's high comparable. Buildings is the largest segment for electrification, and here we see the positive order development driven by commercial buildings in the US and Europe. China, however, remains weak. Looking at the residential piece, it was broadly stable in the US and Europe with continued weakness in China. Other positive areas are infrastructure related to land transport, as well as the oil and gas segment. Geographically, the US continues to be the fastest growing market, increasing 23%. But it was also good to see 15% growth in Europe with a good momentum across most of our large markets. This more than offset the decline in the Amea region where China dropped 12%. Then turning to revenues, which improved in virtually all divisions and amounted to $4.5 billion, up by 13% like for like. I want to highlight the book to bill of 101, which was achieved on record high revenues. A good delivery by the team and a proof point of a strong market environment. The strong revenue growth was primarily driven by higher volumes as we convert the backlog related to medium voltage and power protection and by improved activity in the short cycle business. We also benefited from a slightly positive price impact. earnings again exceeded the 1 billion mark reaching $1.1 billion and was up by 17%. This was mainly driven by operational leverage on higher volumes, which more than offset the growth-related higher spend on R&D and SG&A. Looking into the fourth quarter, we currently expect comparable revenues to grow at a mid single digit rate. And for the operational EBITDA margin, we anticipate it to sequentially soften, which is in line with the normal seasonal pattern. Now let's turn to Motion, where the strong order intake was driven by good momentum in both the short cycle and project and systems businesses. In total, orders reached $2.2 billion, which is up 17% on a like-for-like basis. From a segment perspective, rail has been and continues to be a strong market for motion. Another good area is HVAC for commercial buildings and data centers. Oil and gas, power generation, water and wastewater, as well as food and beverage are all segments in the positive. The softer areas included the process-related segments of chemicals, pulp and paper, and metals. Shifting now to revenues, Motion delivered just under $2.1 billion. Higher volumes and pricing both supported the comparable increase of 3%. This year-on-year growth was slightly below our expectations as the deliveries in the project and systems related businesses were somewhat lower than anticipated. On the other hand, it was encouraging to see the good momentum in the short cycle business. Total earnings improved by 4% from last year's high level, reaching $421 million. The margin, however, slipped by 60 basis points to 20.1%, in line with our guidance going into the quarter. For the fourth quarter, we anticipate comparable revenue growth in the low to mid single digit range and the operational EBITDA margin to sequentially soften, which is in line again with the normal seasonal pattern. Also in process automation, the market profile remains similar to what we have seen recently. PEA now has a positive book to bill for 20 consecutive quarters and backlog sits at $9.4 billion. Quite impressive. Orders amounted to $1.9 billion, up by 4% like for like. We saw good order momentum in the energy-related segments of oil and gas and conventional power generation. and there was also an increased activity among nuclear customers. However, demand was lower for renewables. The market for marine and port automation and electrification remains strong, even if order intake remains stable in this quarter. On the softer side, we still have the process industry related areas of chemical, pulp and paper and mining. Revenues of 1.8 billion was seen a bit better than we expected, increasing 7% on a comparable basis. Execution of the high backlog was the key driver, with additional support from price mix development. The impact from higher revenues supported the earnings growth of 10% and the higher spend mainly linked to R&D was offset. All in all, operational EBITDA margin improved by 30 basis points to 15.5%. As from the fourth quarter, process automation will include the machine automation division. I would assume that most of you have not yet rebuilt your models to match our new reporting structure, so we will help with guidance both for old and new PA setup. For PA as is, we expect comparable revenues to improve in the mid single digit range and the operational EBITDA margin to sequentially soften, which is again in line with the seasonal pattern. For PA including machine automation, we still foresee comparable growth in the mid single digit range, but given that machine automation is running at more or less a break-even level, we expect operational EBIT R margin in the new setup should be somewhere between 13 and 14%. As I mentioned, we will present restated numbers by early December. And now, for the last time, let's turn to robotics and discrete automation as we, going forward, will report based on three business areas. Overall, the quarter developed largely as expected. There was a slight sequential order increase reflecting a year-on-year improvement of 13%, up from last year's low comparable. Orders in the robotics division remained broadly stable as weakness in the automotive and general industry segments was offset by a positive development in areas like consumer electronics and logistics. Orders in the machine automation division increased sharply from a low comparable. However, the absolute order level is still low as the market remains challenging. After seven consecutive quarters of revenue decline, it was nice to see both divisions returning to positive growth. Combined, revenues improved by 5% and reached $807 million. This was driven by higher volumes, supported mainly by backlog execution, but also slight positive pricing. Operational EBITDA margin of 9.2% was up 90 basis points year on year and 10 basis points sequentially. As in recent quarters, the robotics division's margin remained in the double-digit territory and actually improved slightly from last year. And as mentioned earlier, the machine automation division is at the break-even level as the volumes in production have not yet recovered enough to cover the cost of underabsorption. Now let's move on to cash flow, which as Morten mentioned, was definitely one of the highlights in the quarter. All business areas reported an increase in free cash flow. This was driven by improved operational performance as well as a larger release of trade networking capital compared with the last year. We improved free cash flow by 32% to $1.6 billion despite the higher cash tax expense and higher cap expense. As you can see on the chart, we are at the year-to-date free cash flow of over $3 billion. And in my view, we are well on our way to deliver on our ambition to improve our annual free cash flow from the 3.9 billion we generated last year. It is great to see that our focus on trade networking capital as a cash KPI for our businesses and ABB way finance system transformation are likely starting to have an impact on our cash performance. And with that, let me hand it back to you, Morten.
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