7/17/2025

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Operator
Conference Operator

If you want to go to the company, you can send it in the question form to the right. But with that said, you have the floor, Robin.

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Robin Lindahl
CEO

Thank you very much and thank you for all visitors. Today we will go through the financial report. I will talk a little bit about the market update and how it looks today. I will give a slightly more comprehensive operational report and then we will end with questions. If we look at the quarter on the same day, we have summarized it as stable, that is, we remind a lot of the corresponding quarter last year when it comes to the rate of investment, timtax and the like. We have, however, a certain calendar effect. The adjusted net income growth is 1%, while the reported growth is minus 2%. If we look at the net income, it has gone up to 109 million from last year. Och rörelseresultatet landar på 9,4 miljoner detta kvartalet. Och rörelsemarginalen har därmed fallit från 9,8 förra året till 8,5 detta året. Men i princip hela förändringen är hemförlig till den sänkta omsättningen på grund av den här kalendereffekten som jag har talat om. If we look at the business areas separately, commerce is growing with 1% to 93 million, while information management is shrinking with 17% to 16.7 million. I will comment on this a little later. Vi fortsätter att ta marknadsandelar. Första halvåret är vår bedömning. Vi ser en avvaktande marknad. Vi ser handlare och även B2B-handlare som investerar försiktigt och även håller tillbaka investeringar och tittar lite grann på omvärlden, tittar på den oro som sker och som föregår där ute och fattar sina beslut utifrån det. The turnover fell to 9.4 million kronor, and as I said, the difference is mainly in revenue. The cost level was slightly lower than last year. If you look at the commerce turnover margin, it is very strong, at 14% per quarter against 30.8% last year. Medan Information Management har fortsatt haft en trög försäljning och har en negativ rörelsemarginal för kvartalet. Tittar man på kassaflödet så är det stor skillnad mellan detta året och föregående år. Det beror naturligtvis på den beslutade utdelningen som skett på 18,6 miljoner. Det förklarar större delen av skillnaden mellan detta året och föregående år. The quarter has been stable, and if we look at the net turnover, it has fallen somewhat over the past 12 months. We have calendar effects in this type of business, and we had a very strong comparison quarter last year. We have had costs that have been somewhat in line, have dropped somewhat. Vi har haft sänkta kostnader för inköp av varutjänster, det vill säga under konsulter, och även för övriga externa kostnader då vi hade några lite större investeringar förra året som vi inte haft i år. Tittar man på antalet medarbetare så har det ökat med 2%, medan personalkostnaden har ökat med 4%. Det är dels en lönerevision som ligger bakom den här förändringen. Av- och nedskrivningar, relativt stabilt, sjunker något. Om vi tittar på den finansiella ställningen, balansräkningen, så har vi minskande materiella tillgångar. Vi förlänger inga hyresavtal i nuläget och merparten av våra materiella tillgångar är just nyttjande rättstillgångar eller hyrestillgångar. Så 63,7 miljoner av de 66,9 är nyttjande rättstillgångar. Vi ser också minskande långfristiga skulder och samtliga dessa skulder består av just nyttjanderrätter eller kopplade till nyttjanderrätter. Vår finansiella ställning har stärkts med det egna kapitalet har stärkts från förra året till detta år och det är trots den lämnade utdelningen på 18,6 miljoner så naturligtvis har vi ackumulerat mer eget kapital fram till början av kvartalet. If we look at Aventia as an investment case, the long-term value creation, we have been rejuvenated in modern trade since 2015. We had a focus on growth 2015-2023, but from 2024 we have looked more at the margin and to work up the margin and maybe at the expense of slightly lower growth goals. In terms of revenue, we have had 18% Cumulative Aggregated Growth Rate since 2015. If you look at the stock market, we have had a total drop of 12% if you look at yesterday's rate of 11.95 kronor since 2015. So it has not really thought about growth, hence the change in financial goals. If you compare with a risk-free or a different type of investment, Avanza Zero, which is effort-free and lower risk, it has given 8.9% in the same period. You should have a premium if you own a company like Avanza. The yield has been 9% over 10 years. It is a very small yield. In general, we grow organically and not through trade. Our financial goals that we established last year are 10% growth over time. The last 12 months have been 5%. Rörelsemarginalen 10% på kort sikt och 15% på lång sikt. De senaste 12 månaderna har vi nått 7,9%. Vi är inte nöjda med tillväxten eller rörelsemarginalen. Tillväxten kan man tillskriva marknadsomständigheterna. Det är svårt att växa med 10% eller har varit svårt det senaste året. Rörelsemarginalen är något vi måste arbeta med aktivt hela tiden för att förbättra. Vi har vidtagit åtgärder. Under kvartalet så har Information Management haft ett besparingsprogram, vilket kommer att påverka marginalen på det området framöver. If we take a look at the market update, we have had very big swings in the first half of the year, and that reminds us a little bit of how the annual development has been in recent years. It has been from a hockey stick development 15-20 years before, so in recent years it has been more swaying, and since COVID it has been more swaying. If you look at the last quarter or the last reported quarter, Q1, then Swedish trade reports a declining e-commerce, while Postnord reports an increase, even how you measure has a certain importance. If you look at April, then it was a strong month in Swedish trade, while May was very weak. So it swings a lot on the consumers' side, and in that light, the traders also act quite carefully. The environmental turbulence and the purchasing power that the consumers experience have naturally affected trade as a whole and also affected our customers' willingness to invest. Trade continues to be generally watchful and the recovery that everyone is waiting for seems to continue to be waiting for. However, it differs a bit from industry to industry, and as an example, the pharmacy industry is very strong online at the moment, and that is something that has also shown itself in our investments. I usually put a spotlight on the operational development and also give a little flavor to the quarter, and as you can see, most of the piles are somewhat even or stable. What has gone down And that is due to the debitable hours. Compared to Q1, we have fewer hours and also fewer days compared to the previous year. And if you look at the rate of invoicing, it has been basically still, both compared to the previous quarter and the same quarter the previous year. If you look at the timetaxes, up compared to the previous year, of course linked to price increases, quite a bit, perhaps marginally up compared to Q1. If you look at the proportion of debiting staff, it has increased compared to the previous year and is quite flat compared to Q1. So in general, a very stable development in the business, even if the calendar effects naturally hit the results calculation. So if I were to summarize this quarter, it would be the sad comment that it is a stable quarter. De viktigaste nyckeltalen ligger stabilt och stadigt sedan Q1 och även jämförbart med det väldigt starka kvartalet förra året. Kalendereffekten påverkar oss och naturligtvis alla andra konsultbolag. Vi ser en osäker marknad, kunderna är fortfarande avvaktande och det skiljer mellan olika branscher. Det skiljer också litegrann mellan våra erbjudanden, där information management har det betydligt tuffare. while Commerce has a more stable position and thus manages to parry from this insecurity. If you look at IM, we have taken measures. Our new offers within IM are connected to AI, connected to different types of supplier services and supplier management, flights, and we get new income streams in that direction. But it does not compensate for the weak market we see within PIM and MDM, where we traditionally set our large incomes. Som sagt, vi har vidtagit åtgärder som kommer att skära kostnaderna framåt och det viktiga naturligtvis för affärsområdet är att komma igång med försäljningen och se en återhämtning också inom PIM och MDM som till historiskt sett har varit våra styrkor. Det var vad jag ville gå igenom med kvartalsrapporten. Så nu öppnar jag för frågor.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Tack så mycket för den presentationen. Nu går vi som sagt över på frågestunden. The first question here is, is your view of the market a little more cautious now compared to Q1?

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Robin Lindahl
CEO

Not really. Q1 was a very strong quarter, isolated by ENSEA and on its own. I don't see that the market has improved or deteriorated since Q1. We see a lot of anxiety in the world, and of course the consumers and traders see the same thing. But no, I think my image is still insecurity, still waiting. So no, I really don't have a changed image.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thanks for that answer. How sustainable is profitability in the business area of commerce, and can it compensate for the weakness in information management?

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Robin Lindahl
CEO

Yes, Commerce is very established on our two main markets, Sweden and Norway, where we are a household name and a premium supplier. Jag tror att den lönsamheten man har är hållbar och uthållig och att naturligtvis kommer den också variera från kvartal till kvartal som all konsultverksamhet men vi har en väldigt solid position på den marknaden. Så naturligtvis så ska vi bevaka och arbeta för att ytterligare förbättra den lönsamheten som Commerce sitter på. IEM should be our growth target and show the absolute opposite this quarter. We have challenges within the business area and we have taken measures both half a year ago and now to turn to the development. We need a little market share, but we also have things we can work with internally. And then we have the happy circumstance, of course, that commerce is essentially larger than IEM and thus it can pair with certain OGMs. Naturligtvis ska inte IM ligga kommers till last på lång sikt utan det ska vara en bidragande faktor för hela koncernen. Thank you. avgångsvedelag för ett antal personer där kostnaderna bokförts tidigare men där utbetalningen skedde det här kvartalet. Så generellt sett utbetalningar av tidigare tagna kostnader mot personal.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Tack. Nu kommer vi till sista frågan här. Hur påverkas Avensia av det makroekonomiska läget och den osäkerhet som råder inom detaljhandeln och e-handeln?

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Robin Lindahl
CEO

We are indirectly affected. Our income does not fluctuate week by week or month by month as the dealers can do, but of course their investment will is very much linked to how they experience the market and what future they have. A few years ago, we saw a lot of us in the construction trade, because we thought of a turnaround, and those who had a strong position wanted to invest in a better position. Now, when the turnaround is even more important, you are a little more cautious in that industry. So we are affected by the market situation with a certain decrease, I would say. Investments that are already taken continue, and new investments are decreasing. So definitely affected. If you look at the B2B part of the business, there is another decrease. When the consumer trade slows down, it is out there for a while before the B2B trade slows down. And vice versa, when it turns, the B2B trade tends to come one step after.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Tack så mycket för den prestationen. Och så får vi tacka alla som tittade in på kvartalsrapporten. Tack alla tittare.

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