7/14/2025

speaker
Operator
Conference Call Moderator

Hi and welcome to Balco Group's second quarter report for 2025. With us to present we have President and CEO Camilla Ekdahl as well as CFO Mikael Grindborn. At the end of the presentation we'll have a Q&A. If you're on call and have a question press star 9 to raise your hand and then press star 6 to unmute yourself when given the word. You can also send in questions in the form to your right. And with that said, I give the word to you, Camilla.

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Camilla Ekdahl
President and CEO

Thank you and welcome all to our quarter two presentation. First of all, for all new listeners, a short snapshot of Balko Group. Balko Group was founded in 1987 and consists of several balcony and facade companies. The head office is in Växjö and the group has approximately 600 employees. Balko operates in two main segments, renovations and new build. The core expertise is to supply glazed balconies and balcony solutions, primarily on the renovation market and to tenant-owned associations. The group has a broad offering of balcony solutions and a complementary offering such as facade renovation, and it can also act as a turnkey supplier in renovation projects. The key markets are Sweden, Denmark, Norway, and Finland. We also have a strong challenger position on other Northern European markets. So let's go over to the quarter. And I'm very glad to say that the order intake in the quarter is the highest historically order intake for Baku Group and amounted to 519 million SEK, which is an increase of 37% compared to previous year. The increase comes from mainly three areas. First of all, a restart in the maritime segment where we received an order worth about 80 million SEK to the French shipyard Chantiers de l'Atlantique. This is our first order to both this shipyard and also to France. And on this order, we will also deliver doors together with the balconies. So this is also a new product which we implemented to our maritime assortment. The second area is Norway, where we received orders of about 180 million NOK during the quarter. And this is also, we have communicated with press releases during the quarter. And the third area is also very glad to see that we have an increase in the order intake for the Swedish balcony companies with about 47% in the quarter. However, the profitability in the quarter is not satisfactory. We are still suffering from delays in the start of our projects during the first half year, and the value of this is about 100 million SEK. This affects both sales, cash flow, and also earnings. The net sales decreased by 12% to 338 million SEK versus 374. 5% is coming from negative currency effect. The structural measures we announced in quarter one proceed as planned. The production move from TBO Haglin in Arboga to the Balco factories in Växjö in Poland has been completed. The previously planned step reductions have been implemented at our glazing company in Finland. All these structural costs are taken in the first quarter. If we go and talk a little bit about the market in general, We can see that the trend of increased activity, especially in the Swedish and Norwegian renovation market, is continuing, as I said on the previous quarters. Customers are becoming more willing to make investment decisions, but the process continues to be long. We can also see that the recovery in the market continues to be affected by uncertainty in the outside world. And therefore, we must always look on the order intake over a longer period. But if we look on the first half year, we can see that there's still a very positive trend there, where we have an increase of 9% for the first half year in the order intake. We can see that there are some smaller positive signals in the new-build segment in the Nordic countries, but the increase comes from a very low level, and it will take a while before we see it visible in the increased ordering table for our facade and balcony companies in Sweden and Finland. Since mid of previous year, The order bookings for the cruise ships to the shipyards have picked up, and this has also resulted in the increase of requests for quotations to Balco. There are a limited number of companies who are able to deliver balcony solutions to the shipyard, and Balco is one of them. Balco is also a very interesting partner for the shipyards, not only for balconies, but also for other products within the steel, aluminium and glass material. as now when we have implemented the doors into our maritime segment. This is an example of that. We can see on the market that we have had some problems before with the strain competitive situation that continues, and this is especially for the Swedish facade companies and the balcony company in Denmark. And we also see a trend of increased competitive situation in Finland, both within the renovation and the new build segment. So hand over to you, Michael, and the figures.

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Mikael Grindborn
CFO

Yes, and start with the quarter for the group and the quarterly result. Net sales amounted to 331 million down from 374 last year. Here the organic growth was minus 7% and currency effect was minus 5%. Our adjusted operating result on EBITDA level amounted to 6 million, down from 19 million last year, and it corresponds to an adjusted EBITDA margin of 1.9%. Order intake was, as Camilla mentioned, record high and increased by 47% up to 519 million compared to 380 last year. Our order backlog has increased by 4% to 1 billion 439 million. The adjusted earnings per share amounted to 0.01 SEC compared to 0.36 last year. And our operating cash flow was negative in the quarter by minus 30 million compared to plus 48 last year. And if we look at our segments and start with the renovation segment, here the sales was more or less in par compared to last year, 253 million compared to 251 last year, and it corresponds to 76% of the total sales of the group. Order intake in the quarter increased by 52% up to 386 million, and it corresponds to 74% of the total order intake. The adjusted operating result EBITDA in the quarter amounted to 6 million compared to 11 last year, and its correspond to adjusted operating margin of 2.4%. Order backlog increased by 10%, up to 1,134,000, and corresponds to 79% of the total order backlog. And our new build segment, here sales decreased down to 78 million compared to 123 last year. And this corresponds to 24% of the total sales. Order intake, though, increased by 6%, up to 133 million compared to 126 last year. The adjusted operating result, EBITDA, in the quarter amounted to 1 million compared to 7 last year, and an adjusted operating margin of 0.8%. Order backlog for the new bill segment decreased slightly to 305 million compared to 355 last year, and it's 25% of the total order backlog. And a look at our financial position at the end of the quarter, the group's equity amounted to 753 million, down from 798 last year. The equity to asset ratio was 45% compared to 47% last year. Our interest-bearing net debt, including leasing debt, in relation to adjusted EBITDA, amounted to 7.6% compared to 3.3% last year. And we have obtained a waiver with the bank, which is valid until the end of the year. Our covenants with the bank is well within this agreement. The banking agreement we have with Danske Bank is valid until end of March 2028. We have an option for a further two-year extension.

speaker
Camilla Ekdahl
President and CEO

Thank you, Michael. So if we look a little bit on the outlook, we say that we are cautiously optimistic for the rest of the year regarding the order intake for the renovation project. For the new build segment, especially in the Nordic countries, we see that the recovery will take longer. And the recovery in the market continues to be affected by the uncertainty in the outside world. There continues to be a strained competitive situation for our Swedish facade companies, our balcony company in Denmark, and we also see within the renovation and new build market now in Finland. The assessment is that the coming quarters will be affected in the terms of sales and earnings. And therefore, we continue to focus on our profitability improving measures and work on structural measures and cost savings, which is ongoing. Yes, so that's all from us. So questions?

speaker
Operator
Conference Call Moderator

Thanks for the presentation. Just to recap, if you are calling in and want to ask a question, press star nine to raise your hand and star six to unmute yourself when handed word. And you can also send in questions via the form. The first question here is. Is it possible to say anything on the expected margin of your order intake?

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Camilla Ekdahl
President and CEO

If it's possible to say anything on the order intake we have taken, I guess they mean. And we can say that on the order intake we have taken, the margins are within the levels where it should be, both in the Swedish market and the maritime market and on Norwegian market.

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Operator
Conference Call Moderator

Thanks for that answer. Now we have Sofia Serling from Carnegie on call. Welcome, Sofia.

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Sofia Serling
Analyst, D&D Carnegie

Thank you. This is Sofia from D&D Carnegie. Can you hear me?

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Camilla Ekdahl
President and CEO

Yes, we hear you. Hello, Sofia. Nice to hear your voice again.

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Sofia Serling
Analyst, D&D Carnegie

Thank you. Okay, I have a first question. Maybe a follow-up on the previous question. So this maritime order, should we expect a similar margin as the normalized bulk group margin or is it a lower margin in this type of orders or a higher one? That's my first question.

speaker
Mikael Grindborn
CFO

If we see at the maritime segment, the last two ships that we delivered to, it was more or less the same level as the standard Valko Group margin. It was a very good margin on the last two boats, and this one is sold on the same level.

speaker
Sofia Serling
Analyst, D&D Carnegie

Okay. And if we continue on the maritime segment, what is your expectation? Here ahead, do you expect any more orders from this segment or is this good enough at the moment or what is your expectation?

speaker
Camilla Ekdahl
President and CEO

As we say in the report, we have received more requests for quotations. So we are working on quotations within the segment.

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Sofia Serling
Analyst, D&D Carnegie

And then you mentioned profitability somewhat dampened by the delays in project starts? Is that in particular in Sweden, the problem, or do you see this in other countries as well? And also, when do you expect this type of product to start again? Or when the problem will be solved, in your view?

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Mikael Grindborn
CFO

It's for a couple of different markets, as a matter of fact, we have it both in Sweden, we have it in Norway, more or less the same level in both countries, also Denmark, also quite more or less the same level also in Finland, in the new build segment, and also some delay in the new build in UK. Some of them have already started up, but otherwise it's quite difficult to say exactly when they will start. But we expect that it will be better in quarter four of this year, as it looks now.

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Sofia Serling
Analyst, D&D Carnegie

Okay. And what would you say is the main reason? I mean, it seems like it's different countries now, but what would you say is the main reason for these delays?

speaker
Camilla Ekdahl
President and CEO

When it comes to where we have the new build segment, there are delays from the builders. This is usually so to say that you get these kind of delays, but we've got a little bit more now than we are used to get. So that's why we see that as an increase. When we look on the renovation segment, that is mainly linked to either building permissions or discussions as in Sweden with the hyresnämnd.

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Sofia Serling
Analyst, D&D Carnegie

Okay. Regarding cost measures, do you think you can implement- any more cost measures ahead in the second half of 2025 or 2026? Or is it fully implemented now and you really need volumes- in order to improve profitability?

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Camilla Ekdahl
President and CEO

We have a couple of areas where we're still working on- with the cost factors, so to say. But mainly, to get the profitability up, we need to get the sales up. Revenue needs to increase. And therefore, we are very happy to see that we now got such a good order intake this quarter.

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Sofia Serling
Analyst, D&D Carnegie

Yeah. Yeah, and just... They take question on the Danish market. Do you think this market is different? Do you see a different customer behavior on the Danish market compared to the other Nordic countries in your view? Yeah.

speaker
Camilla Ekdahl
President and CEO

In the Danish market, the product we have there, that's a very specific product. The majority of the projects are within the renovation segment, but you are getting a new balcony on an old building where you don't have a balcony today. So that's the main difference if you compare to the other markets where we are working with the renovation, where in the majority of the projects, you're replacing an existing balcony. If you're replacing a balcony and you have a need, then you have a, that's much more a demand of doing something. You are more hesitating and you have even longer processes and it takes longer time before you take the investment if you don't have a balcony and it's something nice to have. So there you see the big difference between the Danish market and the other renovation markets.

speaker
Sofia Serling
Analyst, D&D Carnegie

All right. Okay, that was all my questions. Thank you.

speaker
Operator
Conference Call Moderator

Thank you for those questions. Now for a last question here. What should we expect regarding working capital development the coming quarter?

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Mikael Grindborn
CFO

We expect it to get better, I would say, especially in quarter four. Slight improvement, I expect, in quarter three, but mainly Yeah, quite a big improvement in the fourth quarter of this year.

speaker
Operator
Conference Call Moderator

Thank you for that answer. That was the end of the Q&A. Now for some closing remarks. Camilla?

speaker
Camilla Ekdahl
President and CEO

Thank you all for listening to our presentation, even though it's the 40th of July and some of you have summer vacation coming up. So thank you all, and I wish you all a really good summer. Thank you.

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