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Dustin Group AB (publ)
1/12/2022
I want to say on the call, it's my dad, the one that's here, he's a 1,000 years old and also our our team, the Cochrane and the Stram in the room. So today we present our first four results for this two year 2021-22. And we see all of our financial and financial performance. Solid growth accompanied by solid margin development.
I am as always very proud of everyone and asking for doing their almost every day to deliver the great customer experience.
But it might even be slightly more property given to certain customers and to the overall turmoil in the world with markets opening and closing back and forth which gives us the challenges in size change and also of course in storage and products. But despite all these challenges we managed to have a double digit organic growth and capture the demand from our customers. And the first quarter once again also shows that the availability and delivery capacity generates high growth. We have as you know worked hard during the last year to automate our purchasing,
our pricing and our logistics. This work obviously never stops, we can always improve but it's encouraging to see that it for sure pays off both in growth and efficiency in margin. Let's go through to slide number two just to give you a brief on dust and -a-glance. Mostly we have seen this one before but as you know we are a hardware and software and service company, 280,000 hardware and software products in our assortment, primarily solo line. It is not 60-40 given the changes we have seen also when we acquired Central Point. We are across the Nordics and the Benelux. Now it's the Netherlands, it's our biggest market with 35% of the sales followed by Sweden at 26% and then Norway, Denmark and Finland at between 10% and 15% and Belgium at 3%. And we are primarily a B2B company and 97% of our sales is to B2B and 3% is NB2C, it's a small area. And then 50-50 roughly on SMB and LGP. So that's us in a short nutshell but let's move to slide number three and go through the financials, financial high-achs. A really strong organic growth asset at 11%. We have strengthened our position in the market and our productivity and strong position
in the value chain to also benefit our performance. This combination with an incentive cost focus over high economic activity in society gave us an incentive to be able to increase the return on the investment and the strength of the business. And in this position our online business performance strongly in the case of the high nature of online retail and the great need for mobility and sales services security from the underlying strong trends. And these markets trends that we build our strategy on, the online shift, the growth of our business and sales services demand more of the black and white costs, focus on security and find the resources and ability to have a consistent during the quarter and increase in the importance as well. And that makes our long-term position even stronger. Top of the net, we're at .23% in the next six to .7% in the next six. Up with 69% for the last two hundred and forty-seven and the organic growth and the net was up 11% of which has the most positive .7% and as you can see at the very good 12.9%. And we can see at the negative .4% as an effect of much less campaigning on black Friday due to the overall component shortages. But overall strong organic growth which shows not only good sales and the value of demand but also our capability to make use of it and deliver. The profit was .9% before the last year's 577, giving us a gross 14.3%. Some of the profit from last year's .6% because of us adding more from central point. But when we compare the numbers it's on the same level as last year. Our adjusted beta increased a lot, passing up 300 million per sec and came in at 301 million per sec versus last year's 471. And that gave us an adjusted beta margin at .8% for the quarter versus last year's 4.6.
So very strong performance and strong earnings. The margin is improved by good performance and the structural changes we are doing, combined of course with good cost control within all segments. But both SMB and LCP show really good progress in the margin uptake in the quarter. ITEM's effecting comparability was minus 7 million sec consequently then giving us an EBIT at 251 million sec compared to last year's 132 million sec. And EPS earnings per share grew to 147 sec per share versus last year's 0.99. And our leverage at the end of the quarter was 3.1 versus 2.2 last year, increased because of the acquisition of central point but the leveraging very good sequentially from Q4. And cash flow also strong from operating activity was 369 million sec compared to last year's 265. So apart from an intense quarter in general from an operations perspective we have continued the integration of the central point. Furthermore in the Banalax, Vincere is now operating under the Dustin brand and as a consequence of that we have done reclassification of segment costs and also transferred customers between our segments. We have also completed our refinancing and signed the sustainability link credit facility. And worth mentioning given the power and electricity mess that's going on. And we have also installed solar cells on the roof of our central warehouse which not only reduces our cost but it of course also reduces our finite emissions.
So that's a good project within this. And now Johan, you can take us through the financial for the different segments. Yes, thank you so much. Let's move to slide 4 and the SMB segment in some more detail. So sales for the quarter ended at 1.925 million an increase of .7% over last year representing an organic growth of 11.7%. Sales growth continues to be strong despite the challenges in the global supply chain mainly as a result of very strong economic performance both in the Nordics and in the Banalax. As in previous quarters we continued to see good sales development in hardware categories from all customer groups in the segment. However in Q4 we had particularly strong sales towards larger SMB customers. In terms of services we had good development of the integrated recurring services with above average growth in the quarter. At the same time project related services are now stabilizing on a higher level. Geographically Norway had the strongest sales growth followed by Sweden and the Netherlands. In the quarter the sales towards SMB was affected by customer moves between the segments. The effect was 140 million less sales in SMB and the same addition in LCP. The shift of customers from SMB to LCP was done to harmonize the segment definition in the group. This explains the major part of the difference between reported sales and organic sales development in the quarter in SMB. Segment margin for the quarter was 12% compared to last year's 10%. Reclassification of segment costs to central costs and customer moves affected this year's margin post, stability by 1.1%. The reclassification was done as the V-Sharing group is now run as an integrated part of Dustin and hence forms part of Dustin's central platform. In addition to that scalability as the result of higher volumes in SMB affected the margins positively. Also in private label we performed well in the quarter as the increase margin improvements. Software and services sales was in line with last year but share of total sales declined from .2% of last year to .5% this year mainly as a result of strong hardware sales development.
Let's
move to slide 5
and LCP. LCP sales in the quarter was 4 billion, 183 million, an increase of .4% of which .9% was organic. During the quarter we saw very strong sales increase in both public sector and large corporates. As discussed before the public sector sales have remained strong throughout the pandemic while corporate sales dipped at the beginning of the pandemic but is now back in full swing. Turbulence in the supply chain is still there but we have secured good supplies during the quarter. Geographically we saw strong sales in Norway followed by Finland and Sweden. Segment margins ended at 7% compared to last year's 6.7%. From a business perspective the increase over last year is mainly explained by generally improved margins in some of the larger contracts, cost benefits coming from larger volumes and effects from last year's cost efficiency activities and also coming from customer moves from SMB 140 million and the move of segment costs to central cost affected the margin positively by 0.3%. Segment results improved from last year's 127 million to 293 million or
by 130%. All in all a very strong performance in LCT both in the Nordic region and in the Vandalized region. We then move to slide 6 and the DQC. DQC had a top quarter in regards to volume and declined by .8% of which the DQC score was organic. DQC represented in the quarter 2% of the total sales of DQC. The main reason for the sales decrease was the black stride mainly due to lower campaign sales as the market shortage of products increased. Our focus was therefore again on margins and securing the segment results. We performed well on keeping margins up and ended with a segment margin of .1% compared to last year's 6.3%. In total this ended with a segment result of 11 million of 16 million up from 11 million last year. If we then move to networking capital on slide 7. So networking capital was negative 334 million compared to last year's negative 531 million. Last year was highly affected by the action taken as a consequence of the pandemic where focus was on securing networking capital to mitigate potential risks in accounts received to us. Further to that the inclusion of center points as effectively individualized items in the working capital significantly. Moving on to look at the details of our working capital. We can see that inventory in the quarter was 1.138 million compared to 507 last year. The main reason for the increase was inclusion of center points adding 421 million and higher purchase volumes to reduce the risk with the shortage of components. Accounts receivables was 1.4 billion mainly as a result of center points adding approximately 1.2 billion and the rest explained by higher business volumes. In accounts table which was 3.713 million which was an increase of 1.7 million. Center points added the majority of the difference compared to last year. In total we continue to see strong performance in the area of working capital where we
continue to stay in or below our target range of negative 1 to 200 million. Leverage, that means net death in relation to 12 month EBITDA at the end of Q1 was 3.1 including rolling 12 month EBITDA of center point. As you remember our target is to stay in the range of 2 to 3. Strong operative cash flow reduced the leverage from 3.4 at the end of last year to 3.1 at the end of Q1. Moving on to slide 8 and cash flow. Cash flow for the quarter was 294 million that's compared to 176 million last year. If we look at the parts and cash flow from operating activities before changing net worth and capital was 283 million compared to 169 million last year. Change in net worth and capital was 86 million positive compared to 96 million positive last year and there the difference is mainly the increase of inventory that is due to the market turbulence. Cash flow from investing activities was negative 40 million compared to negative 52 last year where majority comes from caffex. Cash flow from financing activities was negative 35 compared to negative 37 last year where the main, it mainly consists of reduction of lease liability
in line with the price of the property. Looking at investments in some more detail, total investment amounted to 81 million compared to last year's 53 caffex. IT development was 90 million and compared to 10 last year the main difference came from the investment we're seeing in Centrepoint IT platform. Investment in tangible assets was 46 million compared to 33 last year where new circularity in the area was finalized during the quarter. Investment in assets related to services was 17 million compared to last year's 12. All in all, 40 million out of the 81 in caffex was affecting cash flow, the others were change in lease or rent contracts. And with that we move back to Thomas. Great, thank you Johan and let's continue to slide number 9. As I mentioned before we are entering a new chapter in our production and we expand our Nordic position to a European strong position. I know some of you tuned in to our Capital Market today, we had it up for Christmas in the end of November, but let me repeat some of our messages from that. We think our financial projects and aim to continue delivering 80% of our growth and also continue to start for both an acquisition that can further increase our address for market and our relevance for our customers. As you can see on this slide we have different factors and levers that will contribute our target to be a 40 billion-seg company by 2025-26. First we find growth obviously within our core business, between SMB and SMB segments, as well as we continue to grow within services where we see good development in recurring business and especially now in the integrated bot that we have previously done. Then we work on the integration of Central Point and from that we estimate the needs both on sales and cost. And then as a lot of fact you can see that we've given ourselves stronghold now also in mainland Europe, we'll continue to look and search for further geographical expansion. With our business model and approach towards both SMB and NDP where we use a combination of push and pull sales, we see good potential in taking market risks and finding our customer segments also in new markets and third-party groups. With all these levers we aim to reach 40 billion in sales by 2025-26.
And then over to next slide, slide 10 on our margin development. We aim to reach -6% beta margin even though we now take on more LTP volumes. We continue our automation journey making us more efficient in delivery operations and procurement. We also see opportunities with our scale to serve a broader base of larger customers as well as increase our private label penetration both in the Nordic where it has been very successful and now we're also launching our private label sales in the Benelux. We are also as previous announced building up our own and as Johan also mentioned our circularity center in South of Sweden covering for the Nordic and that will also contribute possibly to the margin development. And when we enter a new region or market it will have a short-term effect on the margin but our many levers and our daily efficiency hunting will make us deliver on this target. And then over to slide 11 adding to our pure financial targets we of course also drive our sustainability commitments for 2030. We aim to reduce our CO2 emissions to zero and we aim to have a fully circular offering by 2030 and also do 100 actions and initiatives to improve social equality in our value chain. For us this is not something we do at the side, this is fully incorporated in our strategy and we look at sustainability as a driver for increased profitability. We have and are doing
a lot of actions here and some of the actions worth mentioning. This quarter is the launch of our paper production facility and that will increase the circularity of course and give us growth and it's also to give us growth from the increase in the amount from second hand products as well as more in expansion. We have also linked our long-term financing to our sustainability KDIs which gives us a clear incentive to drive this.
Meaning
in short
if we perform as
we want we decrease our financing costs and if not we don't. But we will and we know how to use it. Then combining with changing to renewable energy at all our aspects of the office we have also built solar cells on the roof of our warehouse and that's a good finding given the challenges and thermals and the effectiveness that we have and the power market and the electricity market in Europe right now. That will of course reduce costs but more importantly it will also reduce our emissions. So high activity in this area as well. So before going into Q&A let me just sum up on slide 12 our first quarter results. Let's take a look at the LCT at 89% on reported levels to 6.2 billion secs where organic growth for the group was 11% with SMB at a strong .7% LCT at an equally strong .9% and BGC at a negative 72.4. Growth profit at 894 million secs versus 577 last year and gross margin at 14.3 versus 15.6. Change in sales mixed with a higher share of LCP sales and strong demand in harvest sales also drives the change in gross margin. But on comparable numbers it's on the same level as last year. And adjusted to the data passing now 300 million secs at a good 301 million secs giving us an beta margin for the quarter at 4.8 and the increase from last year's 4.6 and the initiative and actions we have taken on the cost side of the strategic and short term has given effect as well as our strong performance of this year in the quarter. EGP at 251 million secs compared to 132 and earnings per share at 1.47 per share versus stock shares at 4.99. And on balance sheet strong operating cash flow as you want it to at 369 million secs and leverage ended at a quarter at 3.1. A good leverage from Q4 to
the EGP. So solid growth and strong earnings in the quarter with the pandemic still raging over the world. That has taught us a lot or teaching us a lot. Not the least a new way of working. The market trends have accelerated with the distinct changes in customer behavior. The IT service demand is there and there is an increased demand for instant availability online as well as the underlying trend for security, for mobility and for remote management. We have extensive experience and knowledge and can serve our customers in all our markets and for us these last years I must say has meant that our position is clearly strengthened and shows that our business model is very robust. So in short we are well positioned for what's going on in the world. I think with that the one we can conclude our presentations and we are happy to take any questions you might have. Operator will you support us in that?
Thank you. If you do wish to ask a question please press 01 on your telephone keypad. If you wish to withdraw your question you may do so by pressing 02 to cancel. There will be a brief pause while questions are being registered. Our first question comes from Daniel with ABG.
Yes, hi, thank you very much. First question on the reclassified costs from the initial to central costs in SMB. Should we see the costs at scale going forward or should they grow in line with the rest of the business as if they were part of SMB? You can look at them as the other central costs that we have that they are scalable going forward at the same level of scalability as we have in the rest of the business. So yes they are moving into a more scalable platform than we had before. And that's the reason why you reclassified them, I guess. You could say that. It's the step we are taking towards a more integrated way of working with the Dutch entities. Okay, thanks. Second question related to the market. You say that Norway is stronger both in SMB and LCP. Is there any reason for that? Or what's the main driver product or services-wise? It's hard to say what is the reason. Norway seems to be doing quite well under the pandemic. But from an economic perspective, but we are really driven by hardware sales in Norway. We are doing very good there. We have a very good team in Norway that performs extremely well at the moment. So I think it comes from both external factors but also our own performance in Norway. Yeah, it's a combination of the economic capabilities of our own performance. So it's definitely a good market. Is it driven by any large tenders, large deals, or is it broad-based? Broad-based, yes. Which is fine, very good. Okay, thanks. The last question is that the net effect from the supply chain
issues are negatively by the fact that you cannot source everything. But you are also
positively affected by the fact that you are probably a better off than smaller competitors. You can drive with pricetires. Do you think that the current situation has a positive effect on you? In what case? Can you quantify that? Or what kind of the magnitude? I think the current is a positive net effect in margin-wise. We see the possibility to work with margins
as we have supply and others don't. Obviously being one of the biggest resellers in the Nordics and then we have the possibility to purchase. On the other hand, it adds to working capital and it adds to the volatility of volumes coming in. That's the negative side. But overall I would say we are slightly positive from this situation, from our strong business model at this moment.
Okay, fair enough. I follow up with the last one. On the CAPEX guide, can you give us some hints on what to expect in the different quarters in this fiscal year from CAPEX? I saw it was up more than twice in this quarter on the IT development cost for example.
I think we have said previously that you can expect cash CAPEX to be in the range of 120-140 on a yearly basis. There isn't a big difference between the quarters actually. Excellent,
thanks. Our next question comes from Mika Lassian with Carnegie.
Please go ahead.
Hi,
good morning. Three questions from my side. How would you describe the current supply situation for different hardware categories? And how they have changed the fast-court and what you see here?
Generally, it has been I mean, as you know, during the pandemic and also before the pandemic, there was a lot of semiconductor shortages, but that was there before the pandemic as well. Some of the issues have eased up a bit, but there are still shortages when it comes to other components in the computers. So it is a general shortage, but it's also not only the shortage from a production perspective, it's also the overall turmoil with harbours in the current and troubles in shipping and so forth. That is also putting extra pressure on these, of course. So there is no specific products.
In general, as we have said before, the more if you have a large order of custom-specific products, then it might be harder to get everything in place
in one go. But there are products available, and for us as you saw in this quarter, I mean, availability for us is what drives the growth. So there are products available, but you need to be really on your toes and I think our combination of automation and human interaction is what has given us a lot of benefit in this quarter. Is it because of the pandemic, the volatile on the shipping side that comes in batches or is it sort of a steady flow quite easy to foresee or elaborate a bit on? I think you could maybe divide it into two different products. The category one is the one that are highly dependent or affected by the work from home like headstabs and the equipment you bought in order to upgrade your home office. They have been on a shortage for a long time as a product group. They are getting better now because of course the effect is less now than a year ago. If you then look at PCs and mobile phones there it's a different kind of challenge we have because there we are a broad liner so we sell all the brands for PCs for example. So one quarter there might be an issue with supplies of HP and the next quarter there might be on a Lenovo side. There we can equal out a little bit between the different vendors but it continues to be a challenge if you look at the total market but as we are selling all the brands we can benefit a little
bit from that portfolio risk. How are you performing do you think compared to your competitors and other players in the market in the Nordics and in the Benelux?
Without knowing the details it seems like we are performing maybe slightly better than the market. We believe we gain market shares in this quarter. We can see that the benefits of having as also mentioned before the combination of a push and pull model it has been really good and we have long experience in buying to our own stock and buying to our own warehouse and make use of that model. So that is really paying off during this pandemic I must say.
Can you also talk about the competitive situation right now and the market climate and the pricing climate?
As we mentioned before pricing has been up somewhat from some of the vendors but overall it is obviously a competitive market given that IT as such is moving more to the heart of every business and is more crucial than before for everyone. In that sense of course the underlying economic activity and demand is strong but in all markets where there is high demand there is also a lot of competitors coming to the market but
I think there are business models and our strengths and our staves of course gives us benefits to deliver. But again I think it is the possibility of having everything available for the customers so the instant availability is what has been an important driver during this quarter and there we must say even though we are not utilizing the market we are taking a good position there during the quarter. Okay, I have one follow up here on the sort of why you shifted the cost from SMB to B-segment to central functions. I think you can explain that more in detail. Yeah, let's when we acquire a company before it is integrated we keep all the cost as segment because they don't form part of our let's say group functions as not integrated and that has been the case with being shared in the Netherlands up until this quarter so what we have done now is that we are classifying their cost because they participate in the space and testing platform cost as of the first of September and therefore the cost that was previously in segment cost is now classified as central cost that has this effect on moving cost down in the BNN from segment cost to central cost and that has the effect of .1% approximately on the SMB margin and .3% on SMB margin. Okay. It's actually an integration move that we are making with the total sharing group that we haven't done financially before. Okay. This makes it difficult to evaluate the performance of the margin development for SMB and LCP and compared to the central functions and how we should look at that historically and also going forward but I assume
that this will be the same also in the coming quarter percent that we should add .1% to the
SMB margin
and so on. What happens when you do this with the central project or have you already done that?
Yes, we have already done that. That's a progress from previous ways of doing it.
So this is basically the larger chunk that you will see moving in this direction. As you say, indication wise it will be the same and move every quarter. Got it.
Okay. Thank you.
Thanks. I remind you that if you wish to ask a question, please press 0,1 on your telephone keypad. Our next question comes from Erik Ellander with Handelsbanken. Please go ahead. I'll take your mute, Erik. Erik, if you are on mute, please unmute your microphone so you can ask your question. Yes, I was on mute. I'm always on mute.
Anyways, I was just wondering what is actually driving the demand that you have in the market right now? The reason I ask you for that is that we saw in 2020 due to the pandemic that people work from home and then you got boost from the home office in terms of hardware sales.
Because
in
2019, before the pandemic, the hardware market was really weak. Is it still the home office sales that's driving the demand in the market? Or what is actually the difference between 2019 where the hardware market was weak, 2021 was strong due to the home office purchases and what do you see in the future? I think overall there is a strong economic activity obviously in the news site as a whole. But it has also happened during the The reason for that in 2019 is that the importance of IT and the usage of all the applications that everyone is now using. In 2019, the usage of Teams were nothing compared to what it is right now. Which demands more power in the computers, it demands more processor power, it demands other types of graphic cards, it demands other types of specifications in the computer. That is going on in all companies, everyone is leveling up on this. And you need to have a better capacity in your networks, in the company, you need to be more secure. So there are a lot of investments which we could have seen coming, or we have talked about this for several years also before the pandemic, but this is the way we are going given that the world is going more digital. But the pandemic has of course boosted this a lot so we have taken the leap that we were talking about before. And we see also that the upgrading of home offices also continues, that you are I mean the first 2020 move was to get everything up and working and everyone was at home and started to work from home, but now you are upgrading more and more your home office, you need a better screen, you want a better work space at home, or where we work. And then many companies are moving towards laptop usage, so there is a lot of peripherals also selling, of course like docking stations and keyboards and larger screens, etc. So there are general upgrades which we continue because of the fact that we have learned that you are working. So I think there is an overall uplift in the IT environment, both within the company but also in the other work spaces like for home offices. Okay, so it's basically a structural change which is positive for you and how long did it take these kinds of investments
and upgrades to prolong for, is it like 5-10 years? So do you see any end to it because historically when I look at your organic growth numbers it tends to be a little bit lumpy. One year is very good due to high investments among customers and the other year is a little bit weaker because the prior year was a bump and then you get a little bit of a valid year after. Do you see it's going to be structurally at a higher level due to this kind of upgrade trend going forward? I think the average spend per let's say employee is higher, that's going to stay. So we don't see any reason why that should not be continuing. However, obviously to reach that higher level we have had a bit of a boost now to upgrade everyone because no one was on the higher level before. I think going back to your comments on next been a bit lumpy, I mean we should remember that our in the historic numbers at least we have been affected by the SMBs quite a lot and they are a little bit lumpy in their behaviour because they react to the economic outcome in a, yeah they get cautious and then stop buying a little bit and then they come back and continue to buy again. So that's the waves we see coming from the economic activity of each of
our markets. And that will continue but obviously now, right now that has a lesser impact on the total sales because now LCP is slightly higher on share at the moment. Great. So I mean at the moment you are performing really, really well and you have been performing for a few quarters right now and it really feels like yeah it's really flying for you fundamentally. If the thing does not go according to plan for 2022, what has happened? Meaning what keeps you up at night? What could go wrong for that right now this year? There's a lot of things we see well at night but of course we work a lot in the day but we I think overall it's for us to continue to be on the top, continue to be on our cloud for sourcing for overall procurement and be very close to our vendors, be very close to our partners. But in general it's more if there are other economic terms in the society that can affect us. as you all have seen before we are a broad line and we sell a lot of brands so we are not specifically sort of linked to specific brands but for what we can see now is that the IT market as such will continue to develop and it will continue to move even closer of importance in companies ahead. But it's just we have our crystal ball probably looks like yours and see how it should develop but it's just to continue to dig where we are and be awake every morning for what can come our way and be relevant for our customers. I think that is the most important part. Okay I'm very glad to hear that you sleep well. I do too actually. Then I have a last question and that is related to the fact that you want to expand your graphic team and given what we are right now in Europe in the Nordics you are really strong already but in Europe you are mainly in the Bermuda region and then if you go to the right on the map you have Germany
which has a very big German player and then if you go to the left on the map you have the UK and you have some other big players also listed companies as well. So where could you actually go given that this is really a volume business and have a competitive edge duty? I think overall also the reason for us moving in to Benelux is of course that we see as we were into also before is that we see that our business model is very good to export and we have a slightly different models than the other competitors you are talking about there in Germany for example where we have nearly a consumer driven model towards SMBs which is not the typical thing that is possible to get in other countries and we see of course the opportunity of building that up with all the experience and all the knowledge we have and it's not something that you just can do just like that, it's just not start up and then start to because it's a complete change of how you do your business if you go that way. So I think we are perceived from our competitors in Europe that we have another model, a slightly different model even though we work in the same market. So we see potential of course in that but what we look for is to see where we can find the same customer behavior, where we can find markets where have internet usage and internet networks
that are up to speed and markets are up for change and all markets right now in Europe are changing a lot and there are new demands coming from especially the small and medium sized companies. But with that said also for us entering a new market we have seen that our way of entering the market is to find, prefer an LTP player where we can build volume from that scale up to SMB as we do now in Denmark. That has been the same type of we have used in Finland and in Norway and in Denmark in the same way and then build out a strong SMB position from an LTP volume perspective. So that's what we continue to look for and we see the possibility of that. So you basically feel that if you work for instance entering Germany there will be room for you and the DB. Yes, yes, yes. I mean if you talk about fragmented markets then you can say that Germany is one of the most fragmented markets. There are like 90,000 companies that are IP companies. So there are lots of room but competition also builds the market and we see an opportunity of course in taking on that. Great, thank you very much. Thank you. There are no further questions. I hand back to our speakers. Great,
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