7/18/2025

speaker
Jonas Gustafsson
Group CEO of Hemnet

to 50.5 thousand. After a more active start of the year, listing volumes declined in the second quarter, reflecting a softer market driven by macroeconomic uncertainty and tougher comparables, as last year's interest rate cuts in May and June drove an accelerated listing activity. The market also shifted into a slower pace earlier than usual ahead of the summer this year, as both sellers and agents appear to be more hesitant to list properties due to the record high supply and long selling times. Now turning to page six to look a bit more on how the market characteristics impact our business. I wanted to take this opportunity to provide a bit more color on the difficult situation the Swedish property market is currently in. As you can see on the graph, we're currently experiencing an all-time high supply of listings paired with very long listings time. This makes for a difficult situation for all our stakeholders and especially the real estate agents. As on-sale listing supply has grown, so has the so-called pre-market that is suffering from the same dynamics. A large share of the so-called pre-market supply is old supply and does not move. Based on our analysis, we see that roughly 50% of the pre-market inventory is older than 180 days. And close to 70% of the so-called pre-market is older than 60 days. Given that very few transactions actually take place in the pre-market, This part of the market adds additional friction to an already difficult property market. This is especially true for buyers that need to navigate a large number of properties that are not actually for sale and for agents that are spending a significant part of their time on properties that are not for sale. Going forward, Hemnet will continue to focus on making the property journey as simple and as smooth as possible by increasing transparency, efficiency and mobility in the property market. Now let's move on to page number seven for a look at the most recent market share data. Hemnet continues to be the leading choice for Swedish home sellers. Based on actual data from SCB, the statistic bureau in Sweden, 89% of all property sales in 2024 were advertised on Hemnet. This data point is not only important because it confirms our strength as a platform, but because we know the value it creates for everyone who buys and sells a home to be able to meet in one place. It is precisely the combination of our significant reach and the broad up-to-date housing supply that makes it possible. When more people see your home, the chances of getting the best possible final price increases, while you get the security that the deal is done on a fair market value. The 2024 numbers are in line with Hemnet's share for the past six years, implying that Hemnet continues to be the go-to place for property buyers and sellers in Sweden. Now let's continue on this track and turn to page eight for some additional market data. During April and May, Kantar Media, a leading well-established media research and data analytics company in Sweden, conducted a large survey where more than 1,500 people were asked which property platform they would use if they were to buy and sell a property in Sweden today. As you can see here on the slide, roughly 83% of buyers 87% of sellers stated that Hemnet would be the first choice today. Hemnet was also considered by far the most user-friendly platform. This market data, together with the 2024 data from SCB, further strengthened us in our view that we are by far the number one property portal in Sweden. Now let's move on to product news and we'll start with Hemnet Max on page number nine. So as you know, we launched Hemnet Max on 1st April this year, which means that the product has now been live for roughly a quarter. Hemnet Max includes a number of features that makes it stand out compared to our other offerings, including top search placement, larger share of voice, exposure on Hemnet's landing page, and targeted email sendouts for prospective buyers. The initial data from Hemnet Max listings are showing very impressive results. Comparing Hemnet Max listing to Hemnet Premium listings in Stockholm during April and May, we see that Max listings generated more listing visits, higher bidding premiums, and more saved searches. This clearly shows the strong value that the product creates for sellers and agents. Hemnet Max penetration remains at low levels, but we have seen a positive impact from Hemnet Max on our ARPL, driven by the underlying mix effects. Going forward, we will continue to work with the Hemnet Max product, and we look forward to it being an important growth driver for Hemnet in the coming quarters and years. Let's move on to slide 10 to go through a bit more about the investments that we made into our product proposition. In addition to launching Hemnet Max in the quarter, our teams have worked on a number of exciting features to further enhance the user experience and value for our users. The new features that are either already live or soon to be released includes a personalized discovery feed for logged in users, curated listing collections, enhanced social sharing, and real-time push notifications for saved searches. A lot of these features have been highly sought after by our users, and we're very happy to put them in place. And with that, I will hand over to Anders for a financial update, starting with page 11. Anders, please take the stage.

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Anders Arnult
Chief Financial Officer

Thank you, Jonas. And let's turn to page 12 from the financial summary. Let me begin with an overview of the second quarter of 2025. Net sales for the quarter amounted to 484 million, reflecting a 90% year-on-year increase. This growth was mainly driven by the 35% increase in ARPL. The ARPL growth, again, was supported by the continued strong demand for our value-added services for sellers, including Hemnet Plus, Premium, and the newly launched Hemnet Max. Although published listings volumes decreased by 9% compared to the same period last year, we were able to more than offset this by the higher monetization per listing. This underlines the value our platform delivers to home sellers also in a more challenging housing market. Another noteworthy point is the average listing time on a rolling 12-month basis increased from 42 days in Q2 2024 to 47 days in Q1 2025 and now 48 days in Q2 2025. The year-on-year effect of the increased listing time is positive 2 million in the revenue. The sequential effect of the one additional day from Q1 to Q2 is negative 2 million in revenue for the quarter. It's important to keep in mind that as the average listing days increase, the impact of the revenue shifting between quarters becomes more pronounced. Therefore, if there is a positive effect in Q2, all else equal, we should expect a corresponding negative effect in Q3, since June is typically a lower volume month while September is higher. To smooth out seasonality effects, we recommend tracking ARPU growth on a rolling 12-month basis, as shown in this presentation. Turning to profitability, EBITDA came in at 261 million, representing a 21% increase year over year. We will explore the EBITDA development in more detail later on. The EBITDA margin improved to 54%, up 0.6 percentage points from Q2 last year, driven by the strong top-line growth and operating leverage. Additionally, while commissions and compensation to real estate agents increased in absolute terms, they declined as a percentage of property seller revenue in the second quarter. So even as we continue to see higher recommendation rates and improved loss conversion, the effective commission rate decreased from 30.7% in Q2 to 30.1% in Q2 2025, partly explained by the fixed admin fee of 600 Swedish krona. We continue to uphold a strong financial position. Leverage ended the quarter at 0.6%. down slightly from 0.7 in Q2 last year. Free cash flow over the past 12 months reached 775 million, a 34% increase, underscoring both the scalability of the business model and our strong cash generation capabilities. The reduction in leverage is particularly encouraging given our continued active execution of the capital allocation strategy. Notably, our share buyback program was expanded from 450 million to 600 following the mandate approved at this year's AGM. At first glance, the headcount increase of 13 may stand out. However, it's important to consider a technical nuance that helps explain the employee numbers in relation to the personnel costs. For example, there were a higher number of employees on parental leave during Q2 2025 compared to the same period in 2024. In addition, several new hires join mid-quarter, meaning the full cost impact will be more visible later this year. Beyond the replacement hiring across the organization, there has also been a modest expansion within product and tech departments. With that overview, let's turn to other revenues by segment to take a closer look at the Q2 figures. Now moving into slide 13, which breaks down the revenues. Main driver, of course, once again, the B2C segment. On the B2B side, the picture is more mixed. Revenue from real estate agents grew by 4% and property developers contributed 13 million, up 7% year on year. These increases reflect continued engagement from property developers and a modest rebound in new development listings. However, advertising revenues from other advertisers declined by 10% to 16 million, reflecting a weaker display advertising market. This is driven by broader macroeconomic pressures as advertising budgets shrink across the market. But overall, an uplift in the B2B segment versus Q1, which is positive, of course. And again, the strong momentum in our salary revenues more than compensated for these headwinds, allowing us to continue delivering strong growth overall. With that, let's move to the EBITDA bridge to dive deeper into the Q2 figures. We have already covered what has driven the top line, so let's go through the costs. On slide 14, we show the year-on-year development of EBITDA. Aged compensation increased in absolute terms, but grew less than salary revenue, meaning the commission rate declined somewhat, which positively contributed to the margin expansion. Looking at other costs, expenses were higher than last year, driven by increased marketing spend, some investments around the launch of Hamlet Max, of course, but more importantly, external brand building activities in Q2, in the second quarter, and increased tactical digital marketing. Personal expenses increased due to wage inflation and the larger headcount. However, some timing effects, again, relating to the new hires has a dampening effect on the total personal cost this quarter. And the other cost category remained flat. Overall, our strong revenue growth combined with disciplined cost control allowed us to expand both EBITDA in absolute terms and our margin once again demonstrating the leverage in our business model. In total, this adds up to the absolute EBITDA growth of 45 million. Moving on to page 15 and some spotlight on the cash flow. Starting on the left-hand side, our rolling 12-month free cash flow continues to trend upward and reach 775 million. Cash conversion remains high, supporting both reinvestments and capital returns to shareholders. In the middle, you'll see the development of the share buybacks. During the second quarter, we repurchased shares worth approximately 140 million. This is part of the 600 million mandate approved in May and reflects our commitment to deliver shareholder value. And finally, on the right, our net debt stood at 445 million, corresponding to 0.6, well below our target. This stable capital structure gives us flexibility to continue executing on our priorities while maintaining attractive returns. So a summary from me, we delivered a strong second quarter with top line growth, margin expansion, and continued robust cash generation, all while investing in our long-term growth and returning capital to shareholders. With that, I want to hand over to Jonas for a summary on page 16.

speaker
Jonas Gustafsson
Group CEO of Hemnet

Thank you, Anders. And let's move on to the summary on slide 16. And to summarize today's session and the second quarter of 2025, We delivered a strong and solid financial performance in Q2 with continued revenue growth and margin expansion despite the softer property market and lower listing volumes. We confirm and cement our number one position in the market. Nine out of 10 properties sold in 2024 and Hemnet is a fantastic position. We're excited about the future with Hemnet Max and the product has been showing strong value proposition and product performance in its early days. We have conducted targeted investments in our product development and marketing during the quarter, further strengthening our position. And we will continue to build on this with focus to deliver even more value to agents, sellers, and buyers. With that, that was all from a presentation perspective. So we'll open up for Q&A.

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Operator
Conference Operator

If you wish to ask a question, please dial pound key 5 on your telephone keypad. To enter the queue, if you wish to withdraw your question, please dial pound key 6 on your telephone keypad. Next question comes from Georg Atling from Pareto Securities. Please go ahead.

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Georg Atling
Pareto Securities Analyst

Good morning, guys. I have a couple of questions starting with Hemant Max. As you said, a good indirect effect on the ARPA through premium penetration increase, but quite low in itself. So I'm just wondering how you plan to increase that max penetration going forward.

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Jonas Gustafsson
Group CEO of Hemnet

Good morning, Georg. So when it comes to Hamlet Max, I think you're absolutely right. We're very satisfied and happy with the initial results that the product has performed. When it comes to Hemnet Max, and we've said this before, Hemnet Max is an important growth driver for the future and something that should help us not only in 2025 and the second half of 2025, but also moving into 26, 27 and 28. I think from our perspective, it's a lot about the go-to-market dynamics. So continue to educate the agents around the strong proposition, help them to understand when they should use Hemnet Max, help them to understand and build the rhetorics and the narrative and the pitch for the agent. So a large share of sort of driving further max penetration will be nitty-gritty go-to-market details, and that's sort of a main driver.

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Georg Atling
Pareto Securities Analyst

Okay, but we've seen here in July that you increased premium prices, but not max. So maybe also close the discount that the premium has to max. And also on that, are you ruling out making any changes to what's included in the premium package to make the max package more attractive in comparison?

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Jonas Gustafsson
Group CEO of Hemnet

If you look at, there's a number of different levers and the relative price between the various tiers in our slate or in our sort of full product proposition is definitely one thing. That's just one dimension that we will look at. And there are other opportunities as well. And I think you sort of point out one thing, which is around the various features that are included in the various packages. It's still very early days for Max, and it's still very early days for Hemnet, having four different tiers in our full proposition. So I think that's something that we will continue to work on, something that we always will strive to optimize. So not ruling out anything when it comes to the specific features, but we look at all various levers that we do have.

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Georg Atling
Pareto Securities Analyst

That's very clear. Second question on the pre-market. So this has obviously been a topic of discussion that you're lagging behind a bit, a bully in the pre-market, and you touched upon it in the call. But I'm just wondering if you have a strategy planned out for closing that gap in the pre-market space?

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Jonas Gustafsson
Group CEO of Hemnet

I think when it comes to the pre-market, Georg, I think, you know, we mentioned a few of the sort of data points and the highlights in the presentation. Parts of the pre-market is very attractive for us. That's the upcoming listings. And that's something that we are now continue to look into and drive product development. So I think that's an area that we are looking into. The pre-market, given the circumstances and given the market dynamics that we currently see in the market with all-time high supply, long lead times, and also the sort of more structural fact that most settlers need to sell before they buy. I think the pre-market has become more important. That's something that we are looking into when we move ahead.

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Georg Atling
Pareto Securities Analyst

Perfect. Just a final question from Nina with the longer lead times, as you alluded to, and also the very, very high inventory currently. What's your view on this impact on the mix? Has it been positive or negative for the mix to more extensive packages or neutral?

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Jonas Gustafsson
Group CEO of Hemnet

I think if you look at the trend and this trend, as we've also shown in the presentation, has been going on for quite some time. I think, you know, if you look at premium and now also Max obviously has a feature with renewals. I think the market circumstances and the market dynamics has been a driver of the continued premium conversion that we've seen. that product is very strong with the renewal feature in the market that we've had. But you should also keep in mind, Georg, that if we look at the history and the past when it comes to Hemnet Plus and Hemnet Premium, those products have been growing in penetration since we launched them in 2019 and 2020. That has been in a quick market, that has been in the slow market, that has been in the warm market, and that has been in the cold market. But I think, to go back to your question, I think it's the premium conversion have benefited from the market circumstances.

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Georg Atling
Pareto Securities Analyst

That's very helpful. Thank you very much. That's all I have.

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Jonas Gustafsson
Group CEO of Hemnet

Thank you, Gerard.

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Operator
Conference Operator

The next question comes from Ed Young from MIS. Please go ahead.

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Ed Young
MIS Analyst

Good morning. Two questions, please. The first on the July listings weakness. You've obviously talked about some of the factors that have got into it. What's your best diagnosis for how to think about Q3? And I guess what I'm saying is, is it fair to say you won't really know how much that's simply been delayed slightly until September? Or do you expect there to be some of the kind of factors that would affect the data in Q3 on the listing side. And the second is product. Thank you for the summary of some of the innovation you're doing. I'm just wondering how many of those features or how much of the product development there requires sign-in and what rate are you up to for signed-in users and perhaps more generally for app versus browser now? Thank you.

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Jonas Gustafsson
Group CEO of Hemnet

Thanks, Ed. When it comes to the Q3 volumes and how much it's sort of a delay effect, I think we don't know. It's moving into July. July is a soft and a cold period in time. I think what we hear anecdotally when speaking to the agents is that they're expecting to see an uplift on the other side of the summer. But at this point in time, we don't know. When it comes to the product development and your second question, there's a lot of interesting things happening there in terms of both how much is app and how much is sign-in. Those are figures that we're not disclosing. However, important dimensions that we continuously work on and are driving.

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Ed Young
MIS Analyst

Okay, thank you.

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Operator
Conference Operator

The next question comes from William Packer from BNPP Exane. Please go ahead.

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William Packer
BNP Paribas Exane Analyst

Hi there. Thanks for taking my questions. Two from me, please. Firstly, thanks for the market share data you shared. We also had an update from Baneo this morning, where rather than analyzing 2024, they analyzed Q2. They argued market inventory was actually up 2% in Q2-25 versus hemnet down 10% perhaps reflecting potential tensions with vendors and agents. Do you recognize that data from Booli or do you disagree with their methodology? Any color would help us. Thank you. And then secondly, you know, everyone's aware of the shares have been weak to you on a load of different factors, competitive pressure, investment requirements, regular oversight, et cetera. Jonas, you've now been CEO, but I don't think you've necessarily come very specific. 15 to 20% revenue growth and 55% margins. Is that the right frame of reference for us for 2026 and beyond? Just in the context of where consensus expectations are amid all that noise. Thank you.

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Jonas Gustafsson
Group CEO of Hemnet

So William, can you just repeat the sort of the second part of the last question? It's a bit difficult. You dropped out. I couldn't really hear it. Sorry.

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William Packer
BNP Paribas Exane Analyst

Sure. Yeah. Apologies. Bad line here. So this morning we had an update from Baneo where they argued that For Q2 2025, total market inventory was plus 2%. They outperformed that. They said the market was plus 2%, while Temnet was down 10%. And I just wanted to check whether you recognize that data in terms of market share implications for listings, or whether you perhaps disagree with their methodology, or maybe you haven't seen the analysis. Thank you.

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Jonas Gustafsson
Group CEO of Hemnet

So on the first one, when it comes to the Boni audit, I have not seen it. But if they are referring to total inventory, I mean, I think that's a different question. What we have, when we look at our volumes, as you know, William, the listing volumes are basically new listings. And that's down with 9% during the second quarter period. if we would look at the total inventory and total supply, that's a completely different question. So it's a bit difficult to neither agree or disagree with that. I think when it comes to your second question, that was a bit difficult to hear, but I'll try to answer it and then just guide me. When it comes to this quarter and the... the growth that we see being 19.4% driven by a very strong article development of 34.7%, combining that with the lower listing ones. I think that's a very strong quarter. We have a ambition, as you know, that we should continue to grow with 15 to 20% per year. That's our financial guidance and a EBITDA margin of 55%. And I think sort of, With the margin expansion and the operational leverage that we're seeing in Q2, I think that's a very strong indication that we're moving in the right direction. Please help me, William, if that was not sort of the answer you were looking for.

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William Packer
BNP Paribas Exane Analyst

Yes. So just to come back on the first part, so Boneo's update is new listings. They're saying the market is plus 2%, Boneo is plus 3%, and Hemnet is minus 9%. So they're arguing that you're underperforming the market. I was just interested as to perhaps the methodological issue or whether you agreed with that assessment of the market. And then in terms of the other question, I think you covered it. You're committed to the long-term guidance despite the noise. That's very helpful.

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Jonas Gustafsson
Group CEO of Hemnet

Yeah, I think that the overall market would grow by 2%. We would not agree. We would disagree with that. That's not at all what we've seen when we look at our internal numbers.

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Giles Thorne
Jefferies Analyst

Very helpful.

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Jonas Gustafsson
Group CEO of Hemnet

Thank you.

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Operator
Conference Operator

The next question comes from Thomas Nielsen from Nordia. Please go ahead.

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Thomas Nielsen
Nordea Securities Analyst

Thank you very much for taking my question. We saw a 14% drop in listings in May and 16% in June. Are these purely seasonal fluctuations or is HEMET observing some shift in market share from competitors or changes in seller behavior that could be more structural? Thank you.

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Jonas Gustafsson
Group CEO of Hemnet

When it comes to the May and the June listing volumes, I think it's driven by a number of different factors. We've seen the macroeconomic uncertainty impacting the overall situation in the Swedish property market. I think in the past, we've always seen that in early June, listing volumes come down. quite dramatically, and that's just a very natural seasonality that you do want to sell before Sweden moves into full vacation mode. That has been true that the listings come down in early June when the average listing time has been 25 to 30 days. As Anders also pointed out in the presentation, average listing time on a rolling 12-month basis now is 48 days. So quite substantial expansion there. We have a very clear hypothesis that, you know, that is impacting the market. And that's why we saw the volumes coming down mid-May to a larger extent. So I think that's the main reasons. And the overall market is softer rather than that we would see any sort of indications that we have a market share drop.

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Thomas Nielsen
Nordea Securities Analyst

Okay, thank you very much. And the average listing time is now 48 days, you said?

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Jonas Gustafsson
Group CEO of Hemnet

Yeah, on a rolling 12-month basis.

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Thomas Nielsen
Nordea Securities Analyst

Okay, thank you very much.

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Operator
Conference Operator

The next question comes from Giles Thorne from Jefferies. Please go ahead.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Sorry, Giles, are you there? Giles, maybe you can try logging in again and we'll take the next question.

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Giles Thorne
Jefferies Analyst

Giles, now we can hear you. Okay, perfect. My apologies. You'd have thought I'd be better at this by now. So it was two questions, please. Both are deliberately provocative, both for Jonas. The first one is, Why not make BAS free from here? And secondly, agent compensation, is your best allocated to remunerating agents or is there a better use for that capital going forward?

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Jonas Gustafsson
Group CEO of Hemnet

Thanks. Could you repeat the first question, Giles? It's a bit difficult to hear you.

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Giles Thorne
Jefferies Analyst

It was a question, why not make BAS or BAS in English. Free.

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Jonas Gustafsson
Group CEO of Hemnet

Give it away for free. Okay. Thanks, Giles. So on the first question, I think looking at BOSS, I think from my perspective and from our perspective, it is a fantastic and a very strong product that is bringing a fantastic value to the actual seller with strong reach and very good exposure. And I think from our perspective, the way we view it is that right now, that's definitely sort of motivating a value that is important and a good way Hemnet to monetize on that product. With that said, we'll always look at the full proposition that we do have. We always look at the four different tiers that we do have and try to optimize based on the market circumstances that we do see. So that's the first one. On the second one, when it comes to agent compensation, I think Looking at the compensation model that we do have in place, as you know, and as you've seen, because you've been following us for quite a while, it's been a fantastic tool from an operational level. And if you look at the result of the most recent comp model, it has truly sort of sparked the penetration of plus and premium products. So I think it is something that it's a good investment. It creates a strong sort of relationship with the agents. So something that from an overall level that we're very happy with to have in place an important part of our business model. Thank you very much. Thank you, Jos.

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Operator
Conference Operator

The next question comes from Nikola Kalinowski from ABG Sundal Collier. Please go ahead.

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Nikola Kalinowski
ABG Sundal Collier Analyst

Yep, thanks. Just a few questions from my end. So the first one is just on listing volumes. Just, you know, obviously volumes have been a bit weak in May and June and then slightly in July due to tough comps. Is it reasonable to think here that there needs to be a, a destocking of listings, if you will, given the high supply and that this is what we're seeing now before we see some form of a return to a more normal listing level of somewhere around 185, 190,000 ads, if you know what I mean.

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Jonas Gustafsson
Group CEO of Hemnet

I think, thank you, Nicola. When it comes to the listing moldings, I think, I mean, just looking at the facts, we're at the all time high levels in terms of supply. It has been growing for quite a while. It is still growing. I think that the stocking, um, sort of would be very helpful for the market that would sort of increase the pace or reduce average, um, average sales time. Uh, I think that the problem is that, you know, um, I think that the most natural way to do stock would be that, you know, number of transactions actually would go up. And I think that is something that the entire real estate agent industry is waiting for. Everyone thought that 2025 would pick up and sort of, and it's okay. I think the 2025 transaction volumes are sort of, you know, quite sort of normal, but I think you would need to see an acceleration. And I think, there's a demand for that to happen. But I think more transaction would be the natural way of destock.

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Nikola Kalinowski
ABG Sundal Collier Analyst

Yeah, and I suppose some of the data we're seeing from Svensk Mäklä Statistik on the topic of the number of actual transactions closing, that is going up, but it's not back to a normal level, right? Is that what you gentlemen are also saying?

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Jonas Gustafsson
Group CEO of Hemnet

Yeah, I think, yeah, that's absolutely correct. And especially given the high level of supply, right? That you would need to see it pick up and probably be sort of ahead of normal levels to see the destocking happening. But I think also there's a lot of old supply in the market. And it's a bit sort of question mark on some of the listings, both on the pre-market or the so-called pre-market and in the on-sale segment. whether it's actually for sale or not. And I think one thing that is so clear to me is that we have one KPI that we look at, which is the average number of properties that an agent is running in parallel. That used to be three and a half, four. Now it's up to eight and nine. So I think it's not helpful for the entire industry. This is actually something that's quite bad for the Swedish property market.

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Nikola Kalinowski
ABG Sundal Collier Analyst

that's great color wonderful and maybe on the same topic sorry but I suppose it's somewhat likely that the Swedish government now with the proposition of some eased mortgage rules and LTV requirements will I suppose maybe spur transaction volumes is that something that could be seen I mean I suppose an easier way to purchase homes, maybe the smaller ones. Is that something that could spur transaction activity and maybe trigger a destocking, do you reckon?

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Jonas Gustafsson
Group CEO of Hemnet

I think if you look at it, Nicola, and you look at the Hemnet listing volumes, and if we run the analysis, we see that the strongest correlation with listing volumes is actually towards interest rates. So that's a very clear sort of correlation between listing volumes and interest rates. And obviously, during the quarter, we've had an additional decline when it comes to the interest rates. Then I'm not going to speculate about the sort of the forecast or the trajectory ahead. But I think that decline in interest rate is positive for the underlying market and something that is very helpful. Then when it comes to the more regulatory changes that you referred to, Those are a bit sort of, you know, obviously we don't have historical data and haven't seen this in the past. But in principle and by design, it makes sense and resonates well with us that this should have a positive effect. But, you know, the actual sort of the actual impact that it would have, it's a bit difficult for us to speculate about. But in general, it should be on the positive side.

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Nikola Kalinowski
ABG Sundal Collier Analyst

Yeah, I respect that and I appreciate the reflections. Secondly, I think when we look at the average listing durations on Booli, it's clear that they have a significantly higher average listing duration than you do, arguably because there's a lot of stale inventory on Booli. Do you see any difference between your own pre-market listing durations and the so-called normal listings and their durations?

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Jonas Gustafsson
Group CEO of Hemnet

I don't really exactly know the numbers that you're referring to, Bolle, but sort of in general, when it comes to our upcoming category, or which is kommande in Swedish, we obviously sort of, you know, that's a much shorter period in time. You typically have it on upcoming or kommande for a quite short period before you sort of enter into the on-sale segment. What we do see is that kommande or upcoming has grown in importance. It's also growing as share of the total market for us, which is something that is helpful. But we also see that, you know, product that has been on kommande at Hemnet do perform slightly better than listings that go directly into the on-sale segment.

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Nikola Kalinowski
ABG Sundal Collier Analyst

Yeah, super helpful. And then finally, a question on B2B. It seemed to have been a bit ignored, I guess, due to maybe a cyclical downturn here. But it's safe to say that you do have one of the most well-known brands in Sweden in the wide region platform. Don't you have much more left to do here on the B2B side as well? So could you perhaps elaborate on the monetization and commercialization potential that exists in B2B aside from maybe a cyclical recovery, please?

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Jonas Gustafsson
Group CEO of Hemnet

I think B2B represents a fantastic opportunity. I think if you look at the performance on B2B in the past, per your point, it's been sort of in the lower end of the cycle. I think in Q2 now, very happy to see that, first of all, that we are improving quite significantly compared to Q1. But also it is the first quarter where B2B is actually not declining. So a bit of sort of a trend shift, even though it's flat. In terms of B2B, I think there's a lot of opportunities. Parts of it is just driven by execution. I think we have opportunities in executing from an internal perspective to quite large extent, and that should help to offset this cyclicality going forward. Secondly, I think there's a lot of more sort of product development that could be done in this space. I mean, per your point, and I think what that was you were referring to, Nicola, If you look at Hemnet, it's the third largest media platform in Sweden with a fantastic reach, more than 2 million unique visitors coming to us on a weekly basis. I think it's a traffic beast in that sense. Secondly, which is more important, is that it's also high-quality traffic because we sit pretty far down in the funnel around a property transaction. So I think we both have the quantity in terms of traffic, but we also have the quality being close to an actual property transaction. I think that data is a currency and an asset that we need to leverage and should monetize to a larger extent going forward.

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Nikola Kalinowski
ABG Sundal Collier Analyst

Yeah, that's great. I appreciate the insights. I think that's all for me. Thank you very much. Thank you, Niklas.

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Operator
Conference Operator

As a reminder, if you wish to ask a question, please dial pound key 5 on your telephone keypad. Next question comes from William Packer from BNPP Exane. Please go ahead.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Will, are you there?

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William Packer
BNP Paribas Exane Analyst

Hi, sorry there. Just a very quick follow up. Do you mind just summarizing the messaging on listing trends in July to date and how they've developed? Just to make sure that I digest the message appropriately. Thank you.

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Anders Arnult
Chief Financial Officer

Well, thanks for the question again. I mean, we see the same thing that everyone else is, that the trend from May and June continuing to July. We do the same analysis of why that everyone is waiting to come back after the vacation and summer holidays to do the transaction. So nothing in July changes our opinion on what's happening on the housing market. Thanks.

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Operator
Conference Operator

There are no more questions at this time, so I hand the conference back to the speakers for any closing comments.

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Jonas Gustafsson
Group CEO of Hemnet

Thank you to everyone for tuning in and for joining the call today and for a lot of great questions coming in to us. With that, we'll try to conclude today's session, and we wish you a great weekend coming up, and have a great day. Thanks.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Welcome to Hemnet's Q2 2025 conference call. For the first part of the conference call, the participants will be in listen-only mode. During the questions and answers session, participants are able to ask questions by dialing pound key 5 on their telephone keypad. Now I will hand the conference over to the speakers. Please go ahead.

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Jonas Gustafsson
Group CEO of Hemnet

Good morning, everyone, and a warm welcome to this 2025 Q2 release call for Hemnet Group. My name is Jonas Gustafsson and I'm the Group CEO of Hemnet. With me here on my side today at our headquarters in Stockholm, I have our Chief Financial Officer, Anders Arnult, and our Head of Investor Relations, Ludvig Segelmark. As always, we will go through the presentation that was published on our website this morning during today's session. I will kick it off with a summary of the main highlights during the second quarter. Thereafter, Anders Arnult will cover the financial details before I will come back in the end to wrap this mid-year session up. As always, there will be opportunities to ask questions at the end of the presentation. Today's session will be moderated by our operator, so please follow the operator's instructions to ask questions through the provided dial-in details. So with that, let's get started and let's move on to the next slide, please. We delivered a strong and solid performance in the second quarter with continued growth despite the softer underlying property market with lower listing volumes. Net sales growth amounted to 19.4% compared to last year. Our ARPL growth, average revenue per listing, amounted to almost 35%, driven by continued high demand for our value-added services. The continued penetration of value-adding services, and especially further penetration to premium, represent the key driver of the strong ARPL development. Number of published listings were down with 9.3% compared to last year. The Swedish property market has been impacted by the global macroeconomic uncertainty, paired with all-time high supply and record long listing times and sales cycles. In addition, 2024 Q2 was a very strong quarter, boosted by the introduction of lower interest rates and downward interest rates trajectories. EBTA grew by 20.7%, leading to an EBTA margin of 54%, up by 0.6 percentage points compared to the same period last year. The increased profitability is driven by strong sales growth paired with operating leverage in our underlying business. During the quarter, we also launched Hemnet Max on 1st April, and we're quite pleased with the launch and the impact it has had on the overall conversion levels to higher packages.

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