speaker
Josef Wahlberg
Head of Investor Relations

Good morning and a warm welcome everyone. Today we present the fourth quarter and the full year results for 2025 for the H&M Group. My name is Josef Wahlberg and I'm Head of Investor Relations. Before I hand over to our CEO Daniel Hervére, let me briefly outline today's agenda. As per usual, Daniel will start with a high-level overview of the quarter and the full year. This will be followed by a more detailed financial review from our CFO, Adam Karlsson. Daniel will then highlight strategic progress, priorities going forward, and Adam will share a financial outlook. We will close the conference with a Q&A session where Daniel, Adam and I will be available to answer your questions. So with that, please welcome Daniel.

speaker
Daniel Hervére
CEO

Good morning everyone, both those of you joining us here and those of you joining us online. Today I'm concluding my second year as CEO of the H&M Group and with that I feel confident that we are on the right track. I want to start by saying that the progress that we saw in the third quarter has continued into the fourth quarter across several key areas, even though the world around us continues to be uncertain. Sales in the quarter increased by 2% in local currencies. We increased our operating profit by 38% in the quarter, corresponding to a margin of 10.7% for the quarter. This increase was mainly due to a further strengthening of our customer offering, as well as maintained good cost control and an improved inventory efficiency. Looking at the full year 2025, it shows a solid progress across all our key areas and we continue to strengthen our foundation for future profitable growth. The sales trend was positive over the year as a whole and profitability strengthened during the second half. For the full year, sales increased by 2% in local currencies and our operating margin increased to 8.1%. Earnings per share increased by 5% during 2025. And according to the first preliminary figures, we see that we have reduced our CO2 emissions in scope 3 by 30% compared to the base year 2019. Overall, these results confirm that we are making a solid progress towards all our important long-term targets. I will now hand us back to you, Adam, and you will take us through more of the financial numbers, and then we come back to the strategic outlook for 2025.

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Adam Karlsson
CFO

Thank you, Daniel, and a warm welcome and good morning, everyone. As Daniel highlighted, we have a strong foundation to build on as we have made solid progress during the year. So let me take you through some of the key financial developments for the fourth quarter and the full year. In the fourth quarter, sales increased in local currencies by 2%, and for the full year, sales also increased by 2% in local currencies, confirming a stable underlying trend. We saw sales increasing across a vast majority of our regions in both Q4 and the full year. Online continued to perform well. The sales development should also be seen in the light of 4% fewer stores compared to last year. And we have now also concluded our closures of Monkeys physical stores. As we're showing a stable trend in the underlying sales performance, the appreciation of the Swedish crown has negatively affected the reported numbers versus last year, and with a currency translation effect as big as 7% during Q4. And given the current FX situation, this effect is expected to be even more negative in the first quarter of 2026. The positive gross margin trend that we saw in the third quarter continued into the fourth quarter with 130 basis points year-over-year improvements. After this strong second half year, we reached a gross margin of 53.4% for the full year. The majority of this development was supported by our improvement work in our supply chain, where the sourcing excellence work and the initiatives drives gross margin improvements. External factors affecting gross margins were positive in the quarter. In the fourth quarter, selling and administrative costs decreased by 3% in local currencies compared to the same quarter last year. As mentioned, cost control is and remains an important focus across the organization. And just to highlight a few of the key drivers behind our improved cost-based route 2025, I like to mention logistic efficiencies. We have continued ongoing renegotiations of lease agreements. We have strengthened our indirect sourcing and also found more effective and efficient ways to use our marketing resources. Operating profit increased significantly in the quarter and operating margin 424 was 10.7% compared to 7.4 during last year, an improvement of 330 basis points. For the full year, operating margin increased to 8.1% compared to 7.4% last year. And with a strong profitability improvement in the second half of 2025, the long-term rolling 12-month trend continues in a positive direction towards our long-term profit targets. This development comes as we sharpen focus on our core business as Daniel was outlining, strengthening product, our experience, our brand, and with a firm focus on cost control. Inventory productivity improved during the year, and we ended the quarter with a stock in trade in relation to sales of 15.5% compared to 17.2% last year. This improvement reflects the strengthened demand planning capabilities, more efficient buying and overall good stock management. The composition of the inventory is good. Looking at the long-term trends for gross margin and stock in trade relative to sales, we continue to strengthen both of these measures during 2025 and particularly in the second half. Looking at the graph, you see the dark gray line representing the quarterly gross margin and the light gray line representing the stock in trade versus sales development. And as you can see, the gross margin trajectory continues towards what we have previously discussed as normalized levels. Leverage has been maintained inside the H&M Group's net debt to EBITDA ratio, and that is one to two times. In the fourth quarter we proactively secured a long-term financing with an eight-year 500 million euro bond at attractive terms under our EMTM program and with that we have continued high degree of financial flexibility and liquidity buffer and that makes us able to navigate the volatility and set us up to be well positioned for capturing future opportunities. Cash conversion remains strong and it's helped by active working capital management where we have seen good progress. And in order to distribute surplus liquidity and thereby adjust the company's capital structure, a share buyback program was initiated in November and it was concluded by the 23rd of January. The Board of Directors are proposing a dividend increase to 7.1 SEK per share for 2025. And if approved by the AGM, it will be split into two installments in May and November, as in previous years. So before handing back to you, Daniel, to summarize, we strengthened our gross margin in the second half. We improved inventory productivity and we delivered strong cost control. Together, these factors supported a significant improvement in the profitability for the quarter and enabled a positive margin development for the full year. So with that, I'll hand back to you, Daniel. Thank you.

speaker
Daniel Hervére
CEO

So throughout 2025, we have continued to focus on what matters most to our customers, and that is really offering great products, inspiring customer experiences and building strong brands. On the product side, we have made improvements in several foundational areas during the year. We have made our product creation process more effective by a number of things. We have strengthened creativity and craftsmanship. We have improved our demand planning. We are working on becoming faster in our decision making by strengthening how we spot and analyze trends and through a closer collaboration with our suppliers, as you already have mentioned, Adam. Combined, these different initiatives helps us to respond better and faster to customer needs and strengthens our availability to deliver more on-trend current fashion. At the same time, we have also continued to develop our customer experience across all of our channels. During the year, we have completed a comprehensive upgrade and rollout of our online store across the globe. where we offer more inspirational content, better product pages and improved search functionality. And that has been very well received by customers and that has led to strong sales performance in the online channels during the year. We have also, while improving our digital experience, accelerated upgrades across our physical store portfolio, including improvements in both technology layout as well as product presentation. We will continue to optimize our store portfolio and for 2026 we see and estimate that the sales effect from the optimization will turn around to become slightly positive in support of our sales. In addition, we will continue with our digital expansion as well. In August, we reached a really important milestone for the H&M Group when we launched the H&M brand in Brazil. The pride of our teams and the excitement in the eyes of our customers clearly showed us that our elevated customer offering, inspiring experiences and a strong brand truly resonated with the local Brazilian consumer. During the fourth quarter, we continued to strengthen the physical presence with several other exciting openings in key locations across the globe. We opened new stores in Athens, in Los Angeles, as well as in Shanghai, where we reopened our store on Chai Hai Road, giving new life to a really iconic location for H&M. Another example is our new store in Le Marais in Paris, where we are offering our customers a new curated and both assortment and experience. And in October, we opened a fantastic new concept store in Seoul, in the historical district of Songsu. Creativity and brand strength remains central to our strategy as we move forward. And during the year, both the H&M brand as well as COS presented their autumn-winter collections at the fashion weeks in London and New York. And I particularly want to highlight and point out that this was important for two different reasons. Both it shows our fashion credibility that we can show up at the world's most important fashion weeks, as well as it enables us to reach audiences and engage them in relevant social channels in a way that we haven't done before. And here you see a few examples from our London fashion show with the H&M brand during September. During the year we also entered several important external creative collaborations, continuing our ambition to democratize great design and make it accessible to the many. In November the H&M brand launched a well-received designer collaboration together with Glenn Martens, who is the highly regarded creative director of Maison Margiela and Diesel. H&M also announced that we will launch a new collaboration with Stella McCartney during the spring of 2026. I'm very proud together with the team to make real progress in reducing our climate impact. Since 2019, we have reduced our CO2 emissions in scope 3 by around 30% compared to the 2019 baseline. That puts us well on track to meet our science-based targets to reduce emissions by 56% in 2030. And these results did not come from one single initiative. They come from a hard work of integrating sustainability into how we run and operate our business on a daily basis. So to achieve this, what we have done is we have increased the use of lower impact materials, such as certified recycled or organic fibers. And we are decarbonizing our supply chain by working differently with our suppliers. This means that we have fewer but stronger partnerships. We have suppliers that we want to grow with long term, which makes it possible for us to offer them more stable volumes and better visibility of what to expect from us. And in return, that leads to them investing in renewable energy, more energy efficient processes and a phase out of coal. This close collaboration is truly what makes the difference. When business and sustainability come together, we can truly reduce emissions at scale. and show that fashion can be both affordable and sustainable at the same time. And the impact of the work that we've been doing is not only obvious in the results, the work we do both for climate but as well as for all the other sustainability areas. The work is also being recognized externally. where we are seen as one of the leaders in the industry, as you can see here on the slide. Firstly, the report What Fuels Fashion 2025 by Fashion Revolution. In this ranking, H&M, we were ranked as number one out of 200 major fashion companies for our public disclosure on climate as well as energy. Secondly, you can see the stand earth who ranks us as number one out of 42 different fashion companies in their 2025 fossil free fashion scorecard. And that's for the second year in a row. Thirdly, you can see the NGO Remakes 2024 Fashion Accountability Report that rates 52 different fashion companies in six different categories. And here we came out on the second place overall. And finally, we were just A-listed by CDP for our work on climate as well as water. CDP is one of the world's leading environmental disclosure system that assesses thousands of companies each year. So before we wrap up, I want to take the opportunity to have a look with you on some of the key highlights that we just talked about that has happened during 2025. So please enjoy a very short film of what has happened. 2025 was a year that was characterized by both geopolitical and economical uncertainty affecting both consumers and as well markets in general. And we see similar conditions continuing into 2026, which underlines the importance of us having an effective organization with short decision-making paths, being close proximity to our customers and having high flexibility, as well as you spoke about, Adam, strong cost control. Looking ahead, we will continue to strengthen the foundation for continuous profitable and sustainable growth looking into 2026. Our focus will remain on what's most important to our customers, and that is to always offer the best value for money. We will continue to expand into growth markets such as Brazil and other parts of Latin America, for example. We are also happy to share that we will reopen the H&M location here in Stockholm on the iconic location of Hamngatan later on this spring. And alongside investments in new markets and upgraded customer experiences across many of our existing stores, we will also continue to invest in our tech infrastructure. By enabling a more data-driven decision-making and increased use of AI, we will be able to make better informed decisions, which will strengthen our flexibility and further enhance our creative capabilities. Altogether, that will help us to deliver a more inspiring, relevant and competitive customer offer. So now back to you, Adam, for an outlook, financial outlook at 2026.

speaker
Adam Karlsson
CFO

Yes, just try to frame the year then in terms of how it will potentially affect our numbers. Starting with the gross margin, our sourcing excellence initiatives continues, both in Tier 1 and through the Tier 2 supplier base. We see that the improved inventory productivity enables lower need for end-of-season clearances, but as you were also pointing out, Daniel, here, we see a weak consumer sentiment, particularly in many of the European markets, and that could drive an increased need for temporary activations and deals. For the first quarter of 2026, we assessed that the overall effect of external factors to be somewhat positive compared to the corresponding period last year. However, the cost impact of tariffs that we've already spoke about and that we've already paid are now starting to fully funnel through into our cost base. We see that we have a somewhat increased cost pressure for 2026, for instance coming from a low level of one-offs in the cost base for 2025 and connected to the implementation of new tech infrastructure in 2026. Our focus remains on enabling a continued strong cost control and through further efficiency measures that for example are including continued rationalization of our store portfolio, implementation of a more efficient organization and of course continuously allocating resources to the highest area of impact. With this, our ambition is to grow sales and admin costs at the low single-digit levels, and that will continue into 2026. Then you pointed out currency volatility. It has continued also into 2026. A strong euro versus US dollar contributes positively to the gross margin. And this factor positively contribute as one of the external factors in the gross margin development for the fourth quarter and also affects our outlook for the first quarter in 2026. However, then the opposite, a stronger Swedish crown leads to negative currency translation effects. This affected our result in the fourth quarter and is expected to have an even greater effect on the first quarter based on the current FX development. We continue to implement demand planning improvements. We continue to strengthen our in-season buying. We continue to improve availability in our warehousing network. And we have an investment frame of 9 to 10 billion throughout 2026. And just to point that where the main investment will lie, it will continue to be in the store portfolio and investments in the tech infrastructure that will now lift to be the second biggest area. After a high period of investments in the supply chain, we are now deploying new warehouses during the year, leading to increased availability and flexibility across our channels. So that was a broad outlook into 2026. And with that, over to you, Daniel.

speaker
Daniel Hervére
CEO

So all in all, we know that we have more work to do and that we are not done at all. But the progress that we have made so far, combined with a clear plan for where we're moving ahead, gives us confidence that we are moving in the right direction and that we are making progress across all of our long-term targets. I'm proud of what we have achieved, improving our results, our financial results, while also staying true to our long-term climate ambitions. And at the center of that progress are our people. It's our great teams and colleagues that I meet in stores, warehouses, offices around the globe that truly makes this possible every day. Driven by creativity, engagement and shared values, all of us, we worked really hard to offer fashion, quality and sustainability at a price that is accessible to the many. Thank you for listening. And then we will now go to the Q&A. So, Josef, will you take us through? I will indeed.

speaker
Josef Wahlberg
Head of Investor Relations

Thank you, Daniel. We will now start our Q&A. We will begin with the questions from participants in this room and then open up for questions from the telephone participants. Kind reminder to please state your name before asking your question. Kindly limit yourself to one question at a time with a maximum of two questions per participant. With that, we start with the gentleman to the right here.

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Niklas Ekman
Analyst at DMV Carnegie

Thank you. Niklas Ekman here from DMV Carnegie. I guess the biggest surprise in the results here was the low OPEX. Can you elaborate a little bit here on the reasons for the decline? And you just said here at the end of the presentation that you expect a single-digit increase of SG&A during 26. So I guess this is not a lasting impact. Is this due to a reduction of one-off items or anything? Just if you can elaborate a little bit on that.

speaker
Adam Karlsson
CFO

on top of the more sort of structural improvements that we've done throughout sort of logistic efficiency, how we operate our stores and how we improve sort of marketing productivity. We have also improved because of the work that we've done in the supply chain, the levels of write downs and also somewhat affecting the result in the fourth quarter, the depreciation level. So some of those effects are more sort of isolated, connected to Q4 effects, and that is where they end up in the book and I think reinforces the overall trend we have in the more general OPEX development. So I think that is the area to highlight connected to the development in the fourth quarter.

speaker
Niklas Ekman
Analyst at DMV Carnegie

Excellent. Thank you.

speaker
spk05

A question on the start of Q1, minus 2% December, January. Can you say anything about the sort of momentum through those two months, whether maybe January was a little bit stronger than December?

speaker
Daniel Hervére
CEO

so when we guide for current trading it's always important to take that number with caution because on that short-term perspective there are so many different short-term effects affecting the trading so there are a number of effects that are i think good to be aware of when we look at that when we looked at the first quarter development one is we see a shift in the market around black friday we see black friday becoming black week we see 11 11 singles they're becoming a phenomenon that also helped us to drive a strong end of the fourth quarter with a strong performance in in the fourth in november and that had a muted effect on the start of december which we could see across the markets but also for us so that's one effect then there is some calendar effect in q1 the fact that the chinese new year is in february this year that was in in q in january last year so that has a significant effect on on the number then we have seen muted market demand in some of the large european markets that are really important for us we see that in in public numbers and figures for central europe we also see it in some of our competitors reporting and We believe that we are performing better than the market, but the market sentiment has gone down in Central Europe. And then the last thing to be aware of is we are looking at the U.S. We speak about the report that we went into the fall with a very prudent planning, given everything that was happening around tariffs and with a big respect for the U.S. consumer. We've seen that the demand has stayed very strong and it's positively surprised us and we haven't been able to fully supply to that demand and that we worked hard on using the flexibility that we have in our supply chain to really catch up on the supply but that also have a spillover effect into the first quarter which is a quarter that is a lot about reductions of the of the fall season so those are the different components that we that we think are important to take into account when we look at q1 trading

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spk05

Thank you. And also quick, if you could reflect on the marketing investments you've done during the last few years, and then maybe especially if you have seen any great impacts on younger generations.

speaker
Daniel Hervére
CEO

so the marketing investments we believe are truly important as a brand we have all of our brands but especially h number it has an important job to always attract and onboard new generations that are coming and marketing plays a crucial role in how we keep the brand interesting and that there's a heat around the brand so we happy that we do invest in marketing to be resilient for the long term we did And as you know, in 2024, with the increase in the level of investments and as we have moved ahead, we have learned. So in the beginning, it was a lot about the brand position at large. When we came into 2025, we shifted more into using our product and the product offering as the core engine of marketing. And that's why we decided for the first time since 2004 to put the H&M's name collection on the catwalk at London Fashion Week. we see that we get the stronger efficiency and effect out of the marketing when we tie it closer to our product offering. And that has helped us, as Adam mentioned, to continue to stay very active and see marketing as a tremendously important tool, but improve the efficiency. And that work will continue into 2026. Thank you.

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Adam

Good morning, Daniel from Danske. Previously, you have singled out the performance in different sort of gender segments. Would you shed some light on that, women's work, kids, men's, in Q4 into Q1?

speaker
Daniel Hervére
CEO

So as we talk about also today, product and the product offering truly is the most important for our customers. And we worked really hard, as we mentioned, on a lot of different areas to improve how we leverage our creativity and craftsmanship, how we improve the supply chain, how we improve trend. And that work started within Women's Wear, and that's where we started to see effects during 2025. And it has performed really well during 2025. As you come out of the year, we start to spread those learnings and that development to all the customer groups. So we expect to see effects from the learnings we made on Women's Wear also spreading to the other customer groups throughout 2026.

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Adam

Is it sort of kids before men's? And I think you've said before the kids are maybe one year behind in terms of spreading the learnings.

speaker
Daniel Hervére
CEO

I think we have assessed that doing work at that scale as we have done in women's where it probably takes a year and sort of as we started the work in women's where it take some time to catch on. But we don't, we see no need for holding menswear back as we accelerate kids. They can accelerate in parallel.

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Adam

But are you seeing that sort of the learnings being translated into kids and mens and is that now having an impact or is that still too early to see a real impact?

speaker
Daniel Hervére
CEO

We're starting to see really positive receipts and indications, especially looking at the new spring season that has come in, that we start to get traction on menswear and kidswear. That makes us confident that they will benefit from the same development as ladies did.

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Adam

Okay. And then just maybe a question for Adam. You mentioned the tech investments. Is that going to be evenly spread through the year? Is that sort of front and back and loaded in any way?

speaker
Adam Karlsson
CFO

We will see an elevated level of investments coming in to the end of 26. And then we believe some of these things that we're doing, changing sort of the fundamental ERP systems for a group and so forth, will take multiple years. I think we'll see the first beginning of it in February. in this year, and then we'll be fairly evenly spread over the coming years. So it's more of a late 26 effect for this year, but then ongoing on an elevated level to capture this potential that Daniel was speaking about, AI improvements and such.

speaker
Daniel Hervére
CEO

We have invested significantly in our logistic network, and we start to see that that comes to life and start to generate benefits in 26, and then that investment level goes down as we ramp up the tech investment. And that's not only for necessity, it's really to build the foundation for a future successful H&M that we need to do these tech investments. Thank you.

speaker
Josef Wahlberg
Head of Investor Relations

So with no further questions from the room currently, let's hand over and receive some questions from telephone participants.

speaker
spk12

Thank you. If you would like to ask a question, please press star followed by one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, please press star followed by two. When preparing to ask your question, please ensure your device is unmuted locally. First question comes from Adam Cochrane with Deutsche Bank. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

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Adam Cochrane
Analyst at Deutsche Bank

Good morning. Thanks, guys. First question, you're talking about your supply chain improvements. Can you just try and either quantify or at least qualitatively describe the what you're doing in terms of supply chain improvements, what it means for the customers, the speed of lead times, just a way of thinking how much have you done on it compared to where we were and how much have you still got to go looking forward. Thanks.

speaker
Daniel Hervére
CEO

uh so we're doing a number of different things when it comes to the supply chain one important thing we spoke about that helps us both with uh with the speed with the quality as well as sustainability is to consolidate our supplier base where we work with fewer but really the best best suppliers out there and we'll be a long-term strategic partnership with with them which helps us both to improve the product making but also uh price quality as well as sustainability so consolidating the supplier base and improving the way we Negotiate and build strategic partnerships is one important piece that also allows us to leverage some of their capabilities and strengths when it comes to trend detection, design, supply and leveraging some of their best capabilities to a bigger extent helps us to further improve our entire flexibility and speed of reaction. Then we are working with improving the way we forecast demand and then how we build a strong logistic network to match supply to that demand and that is leveraging data and now further on looking to leverage also ai into that process to become much more precise in how we forecast demand down to every single stock node and that helps us to better better match supply to that demand so and then we work intensely with our design teams here which is also part of the supply chain on improving their transform casting capabilities leveraging their craftsmanship giving them ai tools that really can enhance their creativity at scale So those things combined helps us to reduce lead times. As we talked about before, we don't need to reduce lead times everywhere, but in certain product lines, within certain categories, that speed and flexibility is tremendously important. And that we can really make sure that we, within five to six weeks, can take a product from idea to the shelf and present it to the customer. So on the cost side, we have come far. It's been a big part of how we have been driving the growth margin improvement has been through the sourcing excellence initiatives that Adam described. But as we also mentioned, we see continued potential into 2026 and beyond on how we work with both tier one and two suppliers on that side. When it comes to leveraging the capabilities and developing our own capabilities for being more reactive and more relevant, I think we have taken one important steps, but there are several more important steps to be taken to further improve the current fashion level of the collections that we present to our customers. I don't know, Adam, if you want to complement it.

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Adam Karlsson
CFO

But also mentioning the investments that we have done in this sort of just pure logistic network also enables us to stock pool effectively and not to be be so channel specific in how how we steer the stock so it's as you said a full end-to-end approach that we're taking everything from from leveraging your data in our creative processes to enabling just physical physically simplifying that we ensure that the stock is is supporting the customer in the right place at the right time so

speaker
Daniel Hervére
CEO

And the tech investments that we speak about will also heavily focus around, not only but to a large extent, also around supply chain improvements and really new capabilities.

speaker
Adam Cochrane
Analyst at Deutsche Bank

Are those in supply chain changes, do they go across all of the cost of goods sold, all of the products that you're doing, or is it only at the moment a limited proportion of your products and there's still some to come?

speaker
Daniel Hervére
CEO

it goes across all, but I think as I said, there is some potential that we have captured and more potential to be captured still, but it goes across all the categories. Then there is different benefits in different product categories. If you look at Essentials and basics that have a very high predictability. It's more about having a good safety stock, high availability, low cost of transportation. That's where we can optimize. And then if you look at the latest fashion, it's, of course, to make decisions later with better data, which reduces the fashion risk and increase the precision.

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Adam Cochrane
Analyst at Deutsche Bank

Great. And the second question I've got was really, The market we're hearing from some others is that they're having in Europe particularly to invest more of the gross margin gains into pricing. Maybe the market's become more competitive. Chinese retailers or others. How are you thinking about, you've obviously got your gross margin external factor gains coming into 2026. You've got to make some investments into OPEX. How are you balancing the equation with thinking about investing gross margin to get that top line moving in the current customer environment? Is it something that you can do with regards pricing and promotions to stimulate demand? Do you think that's likely to happen?

speaker
Daniel Hervére
CEO

Yes, that was what Ada mentioned. So we have a couple of factors working in our favor. It's the external effect on the gross margin, but it's also a lot of the improvements we do ourselves in the sourcing excellence work. But then it's also the fact that the collections have been very well received by the consumer, which allows us to sell a wider range of products and also helps us to reach a much better stock composition and coming out of the fourth quarter we also see that we have a very healthy stock level so as Adam said we don't need to use as much of promotion investments to solve overstock because the stock is very healthy and the collections are being well appreciated but we do see a need given the muted demand and that there is a large part of the customer base who is really looking for making not only great value for money but also finding and making a great deal and finding products at discount so that's why We are using reductions as a lever to drive top line and stimulate that demand. If you look just at how collections have been received and how our stock levels, we could be more aggressive in reducing the reductions, but we do see a need that we need to stimulate the demand.

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Adam Karlsson
CFO

And on the investment side, that's where we also reiterate or are speaking about normalized gross margin. So we don't aim to have a gross margin elevation, I mean, to the stars given the somewhat temporary external factors. But we rather take that as what you said, and then reinvest in the product, so to say. But there's still some improvement potentially in how we work, but then also that allows us together with external factors to reinvest in the product to strengthen the customer offer.

speaker
spk12

Thank you. Thanks a lot. We now turn to Vandita Sud with Citi. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

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Vandita Sud
Analyst at Citi

Good morning. Thank you for taking my question. The first one was just on the CAPEX. So I think it's you've got it to 9 to 10 billion, which is lower than this year. And I know you've commented on sort of completing the supply chain investments, but you're ramping up tech. I guess it's still a bit surprising in the context of a net positive contribution from stores. So, just wondering if you can walk us through your plans for CapEx.

speaker
Adam Karlsson
CFO

Well, if we then divide it from the top down, so we will see a lower level of closures this year and a higher share of new openings. And Daniel were pointing out some of the markets we continue to invest in. Then we are also finding ways to leverage learnings from sort of rebuilds over the last couple of years to really deploy that into many stores and make many customers get the upgraded shopping experience. that allows us to be sort of capex effective during 2026 but then of course leveraging the learnings in an effective way secondly we have the the logistic sides that has been on elevated levels both 24 and 25 and that is more of a cyclical level now we're sort of seeing that we have a very strong setup that will be started to take into operations during the end of the year that allows us for the benefits that we're outlying then with flexibility and availability. And thirdly then, tech is also somewhat cyclical. During 2018, 2019, we did big sort of fundamental investments in our online platforms. Now it's time again to do those and also leveraging a lot of the new technology that comes to ensure that we are future proof here. So we're shifting focus to ensuring that the core of our technology is future proof. And that is also somewhat cyclical, but it's at this time counter cyclical towards the logistic investments. So the net effect will be negative as the elevated levels are coming down on the logistic side. And as I mentioned, The increase on the tech side is starting this year, but it's likely to increase on a somewhat elevated level also into 27 and 28.

speaker
Daniel Hervére
CEO

if you want to add anything on another you can highlight to the to the store portfolio i think we'd spoke with that before that we are opening as well as closing stores the stores that we are opening are stronger than the stores that we are closing so and now we come down given that we are moving out of a period of high level of consolidations both with monkey as we we closed the last monkey physical store this year and also coming into lower Lower level of closures in Asia the net effect becomes positive and then we worked with a team intensely of how do we build an exciting inspiring physical store experience and Part of that is completely rebuilding a store, which is high capex intensive, but part of it is also identifying what are the key levers that really makes the difference for the customer and their perception and picking out some of those pieces and putting that into a program that can reach a father. A much larger part of the portfolio is the work that we initiated in the end of 2025 that would spread into 2026. So that means that we'll touch a lot of stores, but at the lower capex level than if we would go through with a full level rebuild where we sort of ceiling, flooring, HVAC and everything. Now we go in and touch the key value drivers instead. And that allows us to touch more customers and their experience.

speaker
Vandita Sud
Analyst at Citi

Thank you. And just one more sort of more long-term question. Could you just comment on how you see the increasing sales in the customer-to-customer platforms and the resale market? And if you're seeing any impact on that in the first-hand market, thank you.

speaker
Daniel Hervére
CEO

Now we see an increasing consumer interest and the behavior shifting to be more natural complement to the first-hand market is how you shop second-hand. And we are really proud and grateful to have Selfie as a part of our group. And they have delivered a very strong year when it comes to growth, tapping into... to that shifting customer sentiment. We see it in Northern Europe, but we also see a very strong year in Central Europe for SELPI, which is great to see. And we see, of course, on the site, so SELPI is not the peer-to-peer, that's sort of a well-managed service, which makes life very easy for the customer, where you sort of have your garments picked up, you have them sold for you, and you're part of splitting with the profit, which makes it very easy to reuse your wardrobe and and be more sustainable and it also is a clear customer benefit of having a monetary gain from doing it the peer-to-peer we see are accelerating we are have a few venture investments in our venture army into peer-to-peer platform because we see that is also a great service for the customer and that we will see continuing but we are monitoring through SELPI and through our venture investments how the market is developing and we are continuously looking at how can we combine these these two where does it make sense to combine it for the customer behavior and where is it more that it runs in separate channels but it is an interesting development and a development that we see as very positive that our garments are made to be used and they can be used through generations and having more ways for the consumer to do that is something very, very positive for our long-term transformation.

speaker
spk12

Thank you. Now turn to Richard Chamberlain with RBC. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

speaker
Richard Chamberlain
Analyst at RBC

Thank you. Good morning, team. I've got two questions as well, please. First one is around FX. Obviously, there's been some quite extreme FX moves going on with a stronger SEC and a stronger Euro against the dollar and so on. And I wondered if you can talk about how you approach pricing in that environment, especially in markets where the currency's been particularly weak against the Swedish crown, whether you're trying to sort of smooth some of that pricing impact out for this year. Thank you.

speaker
Daniel Hervére
CEO

Should I start and then please fill in? So for us, the most important thing is to always offer the best value for money and be truly competitive so that all customers coming to us can feel really confident that they always make the best deal and get the best value for the money they spend when they come to us as the combination of relevant fashion, quality, price and sustainability. So that means that we are monitoring Our positioning in the market assessing the strength in our customer offer, how strong are we and based on that we are adjusting our price positioning. We are not adjusting price in markets that are euro markets or dollar markets because of the SEC strengthening. We are looking at each individual market because that's the market where our customer lives. And then, of course, those markets are shifted depending on how their currency is affecting inflation and the local market position. But we are not, by being a Swedish company and translating into SEKA or Topline, we are not making currency adjustment because of that. We do it from the end of looking at the competitiveness and the strength of the customer offer that we want to see in each market.

speaker
Adam Karlsson
CFO

Just so in our hedging strategy and supports that way of thinking.

speaker
Richard Chamberlain
Analyst at RBC

Okay, brilliant. And the second one is on the U.S. performance that looks to have been a bit sluggish in Q4. I think you mentioned that you felt you were a bit tight on stock availability there. Are you now building back stock availability in the U.S.? Do you think it will be? It sounds like there's still going to be some effects in Q1, but are you expecting that to be sort of more normalized by the end of this year? or should we still expect a pretty cautious sales outlook for the US market? Thanks.

speaker
Daniel Hervére
CEO

So when we looked at the US this spring with all the changes that were happening around tariffs and the situation, we decided to apply a prudent way to approach the US. And then we were positively surprised by the continuous demand for our offering and the resilience of the US consumer. And then we have used the flexibility that we built up in the supply chain to gradually catch up on the supply to match it better to the demand. But there is There is a delayed effect and we see now looking at the spring season that we have a better composition and a better supply in the US. But with that said, US continues to be a very volatile market. We have seen a very high level of inflation and price increases in the US markets across competitors. We are accelerating supply, but we are still monitoring to make sure we don't pivot to the other side of over-allocating to the U.S. But we see that the composition of the spring season is better fit to the demand expectations that we have for the U.S. Got it. Okay.

speaker
Richard Chamberlain
Analyst at RBC

Thank you very much.

speaker
spk12

We now turn to William Woods with Bernstein Society General Group. Your line is open. Please go ahead. William, your line is open. We now turn to Georgina Johan with JP Morgan. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

speaker
Georgina Johan
Analyst at JP Morgan

Oh, thank you. I have two questions related to the gross margin, please. The first one was just in terms of the tailwind from external factors that are coming through, obviously being very clear that There's tailwinds in Q1, but less so than in Q4 if we include tariff effects. As we go through the rest of the year, would you expect the magnitude of that tailwind to widen, or actually is Q1 like sort of a peak point for that tailwind, please? And then my second one was just in terms of the translation drag on the gross margin that you call out. Is it possible to quantify what that was in Q4, please? That's something I at least find very difficult to estimate. Thank you.

speaker
Josef Wahlberg
Head of Investor Relations

Yes, so looking at the external factors, as we have called out, we have seen that some of those were positive in the third quarter, also in the fourth quarter, but somewhat less positive than in the third quarter, connected to increased costs for tariffs that we have been paying throughout the year and that sort of trajectory continues also expectedly into Q1 where we maintain an overall positive impact from external factors but on the margin more cost impact from tariffs. Overall, looking at 2026, it is a positive outlook from the start of the year and with the visibility we have from these external factors. So currency, freight, materials and so forth looking net positive, also including tariffs. And then to your second question connected to the currency translation drag. Here we have seen a connected to the strengthening of the Swedish krona and increased impact sequentially in the fourth quarter compared to the third quarter. As we have disclosed, our sales impact from currency translation was negative of 7% in the fourth quarter compared to 6% in the third quarter. And given how currencies have developed so far in this quarter, we also see that this could be also a more negative impact in the first quarter compared to the fourth quarter. So that is what we're seeing. And since we are calling out this effect, it does have a significant effect on the reported outcomes.

speaker
Georgina Johan
Analyst at JP Morgan

Thank you. Just one follow-up, if I may. May I check, does that external tailwind, does that get larger as this year progresses?

speaker
Adam Karlsson
CFO

It's very difficult, of course, to predict where it's going, but we had a very sharp drop and a sharp difference, at least in the effects that we ended your answer on with the SEIC to the US dollar. So that was very sharp during the first quarter of last year. Yeah, difficult to predict, but we will have a big effect in Q1 and then potentially a less negative relative effect throughout the rest of the year. But that's only sort of speculating, of course, in how the currencies will move. But we are assessing the situation that we're meeting a sharp drop in the first quarter. So that is what we have visibility on right now.

speaker
Georgina Johan
Analyst at JP Morgan

Thank you very much.

speaker
spk12

We now turn to Sridhar Mahankali with UBS. Your line is open, please go ahead.

speaker
Sridhar Mahankali
Analyst at UBS

Hi, good morning. Maybe just a couple from me then, please, both on margins, just to build on what Georgina was asking. Maybe, again, trying to stand back from the detail a little bit. Adam, I think you referred to normalised gross margin and not wanting, obviously, the margins to go to the stars. I think in the past you've referred to 54 to 55 being the sort of what you see as normalized gross margin and that being consistent with a 10 operating margin so maybe just if you can take a look at it that way it feels like this is a year where you could be at least at the lower end of that 54 to 55 then the question is how do you sustain it is an important one because clearly there's a lot of volatility a lot of moving parts here so even if you were to get there 54 55 in that sort of range how do you sustain it what are your thoughts there that's the first one secondly going back to a margin target that we have talked about in the past the 10 operating margin target What conditions do you now need if you're already within the sort of thresholds of the normalized gross margin to then achieve the sort of 10% operating margin? And do you get, is your confidence and conviction in reaching that growing based on what you've seen over the past year?

speaker
Adam Karlsson
CFO

If you're starting with the gross margin, you're right that there are opportunities now to continue given the external factors to move in closer to that normalized interval as we were speaking about. But also reinforcing what Daniel said there is that the product is the most important thing we do. So it's not about short-term growth. sort of increase in gross margin is to build a stronger long-term offer and i think that is then the strongest hedge towards gross margin pressure over time that we take the opportunity now to invest in the product to further then improve our stock availability reducing the need for for sort of clearance markdown and over time, then also through the product strength in our brand, the pricing power that will sort of help us to sustain gross margin levels over time. So for us, it's a long-term journey where we have an opportunity now to both, I think, take steps towards the more normalized gross margin level whilst then continuously strengthening the offer and the product and the value to the consumer. So I think that is sort of the long-term strongest hedge we can do connected to volatility. The second question was the 10% margin target. And I sort of mechanically see that if we then move into this range, let's estimate that we have another 100 bps. If you're in the middle of that range on the gross margin, that takes us down to plus nine and then or like north of nine percent EBIT margin and then connected to what we also call out that we've been showing that we have the ability, despite an inflationary pressure in our cost base, to have a sort of positive delta in local currencies in how much sales grows and how much our cost base grows. So that is our clear intention to continue that journey. And that over time, of course, with normalized cross-margin levels will sequentially then take us closer to the long-term margin targets.

speaker
Daniel Hervére
CEO

while continuing to have strong collections, inspiring experiences, excitement around the bank. We need a positive sales momentum to make sure that that happens. Absolutely.

speaker
Sridhar Mahankali
Analyst at UBS

Thank you. Very small follow-up on the sales point. Clearly, externally, as we see, there's quite a lot of volatility in the quarterly sales data that we report. I guess if there is something that you can share, perhaps in terms of the loyalty data, customer data in terms of transactions or average selling prices, items for transaction, anything you can talk to that is giving you, you really are firmly on the right track on rebuilding the sales and hedging on brand.

speaker
Daniel Hervére
CEO

If we look back to the year, I think we have been posting growth around 1-2% and in that interval consistently through the quarters, which is, as Adam explained in the report, a higher level of consistency than what we've seen in the past. And we attribute that 100% to more appreciation for our customer offer from customers across the board. What we see positive is that the customers that we have within our customer base really want to trust us in a wider range of categories. And that means everything from trusting us not only maybe on basics where we've been very appreciated or in kids clothes, but also trusting us in education. their sportswear hd move has performed very well but also trusting us in other other product categories like in dresses in dresses for occasions and that they widen their spend with us which we see as a receipt that they are appreciating what we're doing so when looking at the customer base we see that the loyal customer truly want to widen their spend with us and we see when we perform well and when we deliver strong collections that are really relevant they are also very keen on sort of employing a larger share of their wallet with us that gives us confidence that we are on the right way but we really are you know from our own ambitions just getting started we do believe there is much more potential to tap into as we move along in implementing the plan strengthening and foundation to then further accelerate growth as we look ahead

speaker
Josef Wahlberg
Head of Investor Relations

And I think these clear receipts we see across regions and also over time, each quarter we have seen the same pattern repeating. So with that, we feel this is a clear trend.

speaker
Daniel Hervére
CEO

The trend is in the right way, but we believe that we have higher ambitions.

speaker
Josef Wahlberg
Head of Investor Relations

Level can be improved.

speaker
spk12

Thank you. And our final question comes from Matthew Clements with Barclays. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

speaker
Matthew Clements
Analyst at Barclays

Hi. Yeah, thanks for taking my time. I hope you can hear me. The first question was on agentic commerce. Just wondering how you're positioning H&M in that world. The second question was on logistics. You're talking about new European warehouses that you were launching. Just wondering how you're managing that capacity amid relatively muted volumes and what you're looking for from that. new logistics capacity. And the final one is on the work you're doing in the assortment relative to how that's being – how the brand is perceived by customers. So, obviously, you know, you've done a lot of work over the last two years investing quality, value, stretching out the high end of the price architecture. But have you seen a meaningful shift in how customers actually perceive the H&M brand? And, you know, where is the brand now relative to where you would like it to be? And what are the biggest areas of improvement or future improvements? Thank you.

speaker
Daniel Hervére
CEO

Okay, I'll try to and then please remind me if I miss any of the questions. So if we start, what was the first one?

speaker
Richard Chamberlain
Analyst at RBC

Identicate. Identicate, yes.

speaker
Daniel Hervére
CEO

It's a very, very interesting area that I believe will drive a big impact on how we meet the customer over time. And as always with... really new disruptive technologies the speed of adaptation is difficult to assess but i i we know that customers large amount our customers they want to be better guided in how they make their choices fashion is fantastic it's fun it's energizing but not for everyone it's also can be painful and difficult to find what you want to wear and how you want to dress and Anyone who's tried to get a little bit of help of any agent again? I know that there is early but you can start to see the signs of that you actually get help on how to dress how to express your personality how to look good So I think it will drive a lot of change. We are looking at it from different angles. We're looking at for it How can we apply agentic AI into our own experience? We have seen the first test that we have done in improving search for example applying conversational search as opposed to just just Normal keyword search reduces the amount of zero search results and sort of increase the relevance for the customer. We see a young consumer being more used to the conversational search pattern. That also helps us to apply many more attributes to the product so that the results can be more relevant and more guiding. So we are working on looking at how can we implement agentic AI into our own digital experience to better serve and guide the customer. At the same time, we are curiously looking at what does it mean for the consumer journey? In what way will they show up to us in the future? How do we make sure that we are present in the journey, regardless of where they start the journey? So that is what we're collaborating with. With Google OpenAI, with other platforms that are driving that change to see how do we tap into that ecosystem. And that is a very, very, very early stage where there is a lot to be learned and a lot to be seen, but something that we are curious about. I believe an area where outstanding value for money will become more important than ever, that truly our product lives up to standing out from competition when it comes to value. The better the customer becomes of making that assessment, the more important it is that we really stand out on the value that we offer in the specific product. Area of big disruption, very, very early stages, and we are exploring it both in our own world, but also in the ecosystem outside of our own channels. Yes. Secondly, logistic. So the key here is to increase availability. We see an opportunity to create better stock pooling, both in general, but also especially between the channels so that we truly can use our omnipresence to drive better availability for our customers so that We can use online stock to serve a store customer that we can use stores as a stock node to serve online customers. And that's a lot of the work we do when we look at the European network. How can we leverage the total stock of Europe to better serve our customers? our European customer in improving the availability while we reduce the total stock levels and increase the precision of the stock that we carry. So a lot of the work goes into making sure that we have capacity, but especially that we increase availability. And then of course that we make sure this is one area where we need to manage the inflationary pressure on costs. And that's also an important work of the logistic investments that we do in Europe. and then thirdly was the brand perception the brand perception so we see also that we have taken steps that we get signs that we're moving in the right direction we get those receipts from customers in the way they act but also what they say when we ask them in quantitative surveys but we're not where we want to be yet we are on a long journey we are putting the foundations in place i'm confident that the direction that we accept are taking us towards the right direction but the a lot of the effect of the work that we have started is yet to be seen and a lot of the work that we have not yet started is also yet to be done so we are starting to take steps but the impact is not yet where we want it to be we are we are in 81 markets and we are changing the perception of wide demography of customers and there is a lot of work left for us to be done in that area

speaker
Matthew Clements
Analyst at Barclays

Yes, thank you. And just follow up very quickly on the logistics point to say are you, how are you managing capacity across the network? Are you moving capacity from old centers and closing those down or what's the management of the network?

speaker
Adam Karlsson
CFO

Right now we're opening new warehouses to ensure that we have created the, what we said then, the capabilities and the capacities to grow and grow in a way which is truly then enabling the Omni setup we have with stores and the digital store sort of combined and through the customer demand more clearly than served through a more flexible logistic network.

speaker
Daniel Hervére
CEO

we work both how we optimize own operated 3pl as well as where we how how far we go on automation and that's different depending on sort of the different circumstances for the strategic network puzzle that we're working on thank you very much for your time thank you thank you thank you um so we have no further questions

speaker
Josef Wahlberg
Head of Investor Relations

Thank you for clarifying, and I take it we don't have any more questions in the room either. So with that, thank you all very much for joining today's conference and for your continued engagement with the H&M Group. We wish you a very nice day. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you.

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