7/26/2023

speaker
Minoo Lander
Senior Vice President, Investor Relations

Good morning, everyone, and very welcome to Canby's Q2 2023 report. My name is Minoo Lander, and I am Cinevice President, Investor Relations, and I am here today with our CEO, Christian Ullén, and our CFO, David Kenyon. Today, we will start to hear our CEO, Christian, to talk about the highlights, followed by our CEO, David, talking about our financial highlights. Then Christian will come back on the stage and talk about commercial and strategic updates. And then we will have questions. So if you have any questions, you can either call to us here or send them in in the text chat box, and I will read them for you. So once again, very welcome to our presentation, and over to you, Christian.

speaker
Christian Ullén
Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Mia. So, yeah, good morning, everyone. I think this time, overall, we are very pleased with the quarter. We have achieved a lot of what we hoped for, and I will talk more about that later. But the first results, strong revenue growth, 24%. Very pleased with that, and of course very much driven by record high trading margin. A little bit disappointed with the underlying turnover, but I think to a very large extent it's hampered by the historically high betting margin that we had this quarter. I think David will talk more about it later. But the main highlight of this quarter, of course, is the signing of Bally's. For many quarters, we have talked about a very, very strong pipeline. And finally, we're happy to announce that it has resulted in a major signing with Bally's, which I will talk more about later. We also have a few significant renewals, Betplay, Leo Vegas, and Puff. and we have done further progress on our ai driven pricing journey and i will talk more about that later but for now i pass over to david thank you christian good morning everyone i'll start with the highlights then for the quarter firstly our revenue revenue was 42.9 million euros this quarter up from 34.7 million

speaker
David Kenyon
Chief Financial Officer

Last year, as Christian mentioned, an extremely strong operating trading margin of 9.9% was a big contributor to this 42.9 million. And we also saw the addition of shape games since Q2 last year, which added just over 3 million to this number versus the comparative. Revenue for the first half was 86.9 million, up from 71.5 million. The next metric we show here is the earnings before interest, tax and amortization on acquisitions. This for the quarter was 5 million compared to 5.2 million Q2 last year. However, it's really important here to mention the big swing we saw on FX. So we saw a 0.7 million loss on our P&L from FX this quarter, but a 2.3 million gain this time last year. So stripping this out, actually a 2.8 million increase in earnings before interest, tax and amortization on acquisitions. In terms of cash, we actually used our cash for some important corporate transactions this quarter. Firstly, we used 7.5 million to repay our only external debt, which was the convertible bond. And we used 7.2 million for share buybacks. And this still leaves us with a very healthy cash position of 57.1 million at the end of the quarter. Here's the turnover index, which I show each quarter. It's, as you remember, an aggregation of the results of the entire portfolio. So the blue columns are an aggregation of the turnover of operators based on an index which started at 100 when we first listed. That is showing 683 for the quarter. The orange line is an aggregated operator trading margin. That's the 9.9% we referenced earlier. I think the first thing to mention is the typical seasonality we see in a Q2. It's a quiet sporting calendar in this quarter. In Q1, of course, we have the end of the NFL season with the playoffs and the Super Bowl, which contributes material in Q1, but of course nothing in Q2. And a similar picture in basketball. A big turnover decrease in basketball from Q1, where we saw the vast majority of the March Madness matches and turnover. This is offset to some degree by the start of the MLB season, which contributes through Q2. But overall, as usual, a quiet sporting calendar in Q2. In terms of specific factors affecting our number on turnover, there's probably three that's worth mentioning. Firstly, Penn National Gaming have seen decreases in their market share in some of the publicly available states. So, you know, that has impacted our numbers. But I think it's an important time to remind you that we will start recognizing a transition fee from Penn as they move away from our online business or their online business moves away from Canby. Then we'll recognize 15 million of termination fees in the coming five quarters starting in Q3. In terms of foreign exchange, this has also hurt our turnover index here. There's been a weakening of the US dollar, the Swedish krona, and the Colombian peso, which are all material factors when we look at calculating our turnover, our operators' turnover. And that weakening has led to a decrease in the turnover that we recognize. It would have been just over 7% on constant FX basis in terms of turnover growth. And lastly, and this is a big factor and it's a little bit unquantifiable, but there is clearly a correlation between the turnover and the margin. So when we report a hugely strong 9.9% margin, this directly impacts the level of turnover and reduces it. So these are all factors which we can say decrease, but offsetting that turnover decrease is the 9.9% margin, which is extremely high. We've seen particularly strong margins in football, so in some of the major European domestic leagues and also the Champions League. We've also seen increased turnover in our BetBuilder product, which comes at a high margin and also contributes to this strong number this quarter. Turning now to our revenue conversion slide. On the left, this is how we move from the turnover growth percentage to the revenue growth percentage. And starting on the left is turnover growth on a constant currency basis versus Q2 last year. And that's 7.3% growth. The operator margin impact is the 9.9% versus a comparative of 8.6%, so clearly a huge increase there, and that leads to the operator gross gaming revenue increasing by 21% versus Q2 last year. The impact from tax and marketing these days is relatively negligible. The percentage of our business that's coming from locally regulated markets is fairly steady now in the mid-90%, so not much impact there on that line. Our revenue model is predominantly based on revenue share with tiers based on the level of net gaming revenue. So where we see kind of north of 20% net gaming revenue growth for operators, this actually has, to their benefit, a reduced effective commission rate across the network. So that's why you see a kind of a downwards push from those reduced effective commission rates as the business of operators has grown significantly. And the last one to mention here is Shape Games. Of course, it was not there in Q2 last year. It was an acquisition made in September 2022. And here we see revenue of €3.2 million, enhanced versus last quarter by a full quarter from the wager deal that we talked about last time. All in all, these things contribute to a revenue growth of 24% for the quarter. Quite a bit to talk about in the cash flow this quarter. Starting on the left with an operating profit of 3.7 million. This was boosted in terms of cash by cash receipts from our strong Q1. And also some temporary timing differences on payments on a couple of large supplier payments. But that will regularize in Q3. Then we bought 380,000 shares back in the company for a value of 7.2 million euros, and we now hold over 900,000 shares in the company. We also repaid our convertible bond in full. That was 7.5 million euros. We'd already announced that we had satisfied certain financial performance criteria to enable us to do that, and this was kind of our only external debt in the business, and that is now fully repaid. The tax paid amount of almost 5 million incorporates both corporation tax and withholding tax. But the large kind of feature here, I guess, is the Maltese tax structure, which we're subject to, whereby you make an initial payment of your corporation tax and then get a refund back of a large part of it. So although we made a large payment in Q2, we actually have a tax debtor of 3.4 million, which we expect to receive in Q3. All of that leaves us with a very healthy cash balance of 57.1 million euros, and I'd say a very strong balance sheet as we move into the future. And with that, I'm going to pass you back to Christian.

speaker
Christian Ullén
Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, David. All right, so at CMD we presented key growth drivers to achieve our 2027 financial targets. And I just wanted to remind you of this before I go through our updates. To retain key partners, roll out the AI-powered pricing, extend our lead in america's sign tier one operators across our product portfolio and launch a major regulator asian market so first of all i would like to talk about values of course i'm very very pleased that we got this deal done We have been really working hard to get a tier one operator on our books again and very pleased to be able to sign Bally's. Bally's is a global operator who are equally big in U.S. as they are outside of U.S. when it comes to revenues. They are actually number five on the global EGR Power 50. So it's a major brand we're talking about. Historically, they have been much stronger on casino and iGaming. But we hope we can help them to become a power brand also on sports betting. With this partnership, Bally decided to scrap their in-house sports betting technology and go with us instead to maximize their opportunity in the sports betting field. And we are very, very pleased to be able to go on a journey with them to help them to achieve that target. I think this is a further evidence that Canby's complete sportsbook remains on high demand even for larger operators. Bali have recently and already launched in two on property locations with us in Louisiana and Mississippi. And we're looking for quite a fast rollout during the autumn in more retail properties and also online. One of the major things in this Bally deal was of course their flexibility and possibility to work and have a lot of say on how to work with sports betting. As many other operators, we have chosen to use their own frontend online and will be powered by our APIs. In this deal, we have also given Bally's an option to acquire a certain part of Cambie's source code. If they do so, they will take modular services from Cambie. But for them to be able to buy the source code, certain prerequisites have to happen. A little bit more about Bally. First of all, I think, yeah, it's a very known brand in the U.S. And I think to fully understand the opportunity, roughly almost a billion dollars of revenues is coming from outside of the U.S. I think we have very, very strong brands after the acquisition of Gamesys in 2021, both in Europe and also in Asia and especially Japan. Bali also have a regional network in the US where they are branded at 21 different regional networks where you can watch local professional sports. So Ballybet will be a very strong brand in all these local markets. In total, Bali have access in 18 states. So we think we can be a major player in US, but we also really see an opportunity both in Europe and Asia and possibly also Latin America going forward. Over the last couple of months, and especially on our capital markets day, we started talking about our AI-powered pricing services. In line with our modernization strategy, we now think it's time to create a standalone division of these services within Cambie Group. Why do we do this? First of all, we want this team, who is very fast and agile, to continue to be agile and have the speed to create the best product we possibly can without taking too much consideration about the rest of the Canby group. We'll be totally focused on the product. And this product can be, of course, be sold within Canby Complete and existing network, but also be sold as a module as Canby Select. We also wanted to create the right incentives for key employees here. This is an area where we really believe that we need to incentivize these really talented guys in the right way. We believe we have a fantastic soccer product already. As you can see on the figures here, amazing increase we have got through this soccer product pretty much. I think this service will create a new benchmark in the industry. And we have already won an award at EGR for best innovation of the year. We believe we are a step ahead when it comes to AI-powered pricing. And we believe that this is the future and that we have something very, very unique here. During the quarter, We also did a few significant partner extensions. First of all, BetPlay. BetPlay is the market leader in Colombia, and it has been an absolute fantastic success, both for us and BetPlay, of course. And it's now one of our absolutely most important partners. So very pleasing to see that we have extended for the long term with them once again. Las Vegas, which was recently acquired by MGM, is obviously also a very important partner to us, and very pleased to see that they wanted to extend with us. And I hope we can take this partnership to another level, given their outspoken plans of expansion. And finally, of extensions, we have also extended our first B2B partner, Puff, who has been with us already since the beginning in 2010. We have also signed Warhorse, who is a leading operator in a retail only state of Nebraska. I believe we will get a really strong position in Nebraska as its only retail, and this is the one partner we really wanted here. And we have already gone live in their flagship property. We have already talked about the launches of Bali and Kindred, and Bali and Warhorse. We have also extended... We have also gone live with Kindred in Washington state. In Latin America, we have expanded our Argentinian footprint with Bet Warrior in the province of Mendoza. And finally, we have also supported Leo Vegas with the launch of the Expect brand in Denmark. After Q2, we have done another signing in IAS Gaming. So firstly, who is IAS Gaming? They are backed by a major gaming operator in Europe called Gausermann Group. And I think they give them some power to do good things in the future. We have a very experienced management team. We are working on the BID gaming platform. For Brazil, we have teamed up with the Brazilian soccer news website Lens, who have 15 million active users per month. So this is a great opportunity in Brazil. And as we heard yesterday, the president signed provisional measures. So it's very likely that Brazil will be regulated within four months. After Q2, we have also done, oh sorry, we have also already launched LANs in Brazil by the way. After Q2, we have also completed some more launches. We have already talked about Arias and Balis, of course. We are very pleased to see that EBIUS has gone live with their esports odd products for the first time with its first partner, DragonEye, in the UK. And of course, on the 9th of July, we stopped taking bets with Penn Online ahead of their transition to their in-house sportsbook. So to summarize the quarter, I think we have very strong commercial momentum. And of course, it's headlined with a ballet signing and the key renewals. Our AI capability to pioneer the next dimension of sports trading takes us to a very, very strong position. I believe we have made significant progress made towards the 2027 growth drivers. And for those who are counting my worries, our sales pipeline is still very, very strong. Thank you very much. And with that, we go to CUNY.

speaker
Minoo Lander
Senior Vice President, Investor Relations

Thank you very much, Christian and David. So now you can either call into us and ask your questions or you can send them directly to me. But we start with the telephone questions. So over to them, please.

speaker
Operator
Conference Operator

If you wish to ask a question, please dial star five on your telephone keypad to enter the queue. If you wish to withdraw your question, please dial star five again on your telephone keypad. The next question comes from Oscar Ronquist from ABG. Please go ahead.

speaker
Oscar Ronquist
Analyst, ABG

Thank you. Good morning, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. So first, I just have a question on the inverse relationship between the turnover and the sportsbook margin. So I appreciate the strong sportsbook margin is a net positive to top line, but I know, David, that you said it's difficult to quantify, but if you could help us understand the magnitude of the inverse relationship, just looking at Like Q3 last year, the sportsbook money was exceptionally high at 9.5, but the turnover index, excluding DraftKings, remained pretty high at 20%. So just wanted to get a sense here of how we should really think about the run rate on turnover. Thank you.

speaker
Christian Ullén
Chief Executive Officer

We have never really got to two exact figures, but I think historically, and of course it's a difference if you're at 7% and change one percentage, or if you're at 9% changing one percentage. But historically, we believe that one percentage should probably impact the turnover by 5% to 10%.

speaker
Oscar Ronquist
Analyst, ABG

Got it. Let's see. All right. Thank you very much. Next one, just on the operator trading margin, we've seen some increasing parlays, and I think that we could actually call it like a structural trend upwards in the operating margin. Now the last 12 months is at 8.8%, I think, and you reiterate your coming 12 months guidance of 8% to 9% trading margin, so just I wanted to get a sense of why we should not expect that value or the expected value to be slightly above 8.5 in the future, given the structural trends we can see. Thank you.

speaker
Christian Ullén
Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, it's possible that we should again have a look at this guidance. There are a lot of signs going in that direction. So, yeah, I may agree that we should actually look at the guidance again on this. We have more and more of our turnover coming from bet builders especially, which makes the margin go up.

speaker
Oscar Ronquist
Analyst, ABG

Understood. Thank you. Just next one on modules. So given that we have not seen any modular signings, just wanted to get a sense of if it's like fair to assume that you currently have a strong turnkey pipeline and that is what you're focusing your resources on instead and just still thinking about like the European legacy operator pipeline that you have previously talked about, Christian. Thank you.

speaker
Christian Ullén
Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, I think I mentioned that last time already, that we may be slightly delayed with focusing on modular services because of that. We have already signed ballots since I mentioned that. And as I said before, we believe our pipeline is in very good shape at the moment. We may push out the modular services slightly to win a few more deals on the complete product, which we're in good position on.

speaker
Minoo Lander
Senior Vice President, Investor Relations

But having said that, we have launched with EBIOS and their first odds customer. So that's, of course, also a module as well as Shape. So we still have the modular offering, but focusing on Shape and EBIOS right now.

speaker
Oscar Ronquist
Analyst, ABG

Understood. Thanks. Just one final question, if that's okay. So just on the Valis pipeline internationally. So you said that you are, I mean, obviously going to expand with Valis internationally, and they have a strong presence in the UK. But I also wanted to Here are some thoughts on Japan, for example. So I saw that their brand, Yugado, which is a quite big one in Japan, recently went live with sports betting. And I know that it's not with your sports book, but given that you sign or you did sign an exclusive partnership with Bally's, can we assume that you will power Yugado as well? Or are you awaiting a regulation before that will happen? And just one question on... Did you mention that you had already went live with Lance, if you had any comments on that?

speaker
Christian Ullén
Chief Executive Officer

That's correct. And when it comes to your first question about ballast in Japan, it will happen at some point, I'm pretty sure. I can't tell you exactly when at the moment.

speaker
Oscar Ronquist
Analyst, ABG

Got it. Thank you very much. That was all for me. Thank you.

speaker
Operator
Conference Operator

As a reminder, if you wish to ask a question, please dial star 5 on your telephone keypad. The next question comes from Victor Hogberg from Danske Bank. Please go ahead.

speaker
Victor Hogberg
Analyst, Danske Bank

Good morning. A bit more on the modular versus turnkey customers. the focus internally could help us understand why focusing on turnkey customers is hampering your ability to sign modular customers is the demand not really there you need to work the customers again understanding the new products or what just what are the dynamics here that makes one focus hurt the other

speaker
Christian Ullén
Chief Executive Officer

As I said already last quarter, some of these potential customers, and that may include Bally's as well, we have agreed on certain or potentially have to agree to certain requirements. development work that would take up quite a lot of our resources and as we said from the beginning with the modernization there is some work to be done when we have signed the first customer on the modernized services. So it's an in-house capacity question.

speaker
Victor Hogberg
Analyst, Danske Bank

And is that something you can manage with the existing organization or would assigning until further hiring?

speaker
Christian Ullén
Chief Executive Officer

We can manage it with existing organization as long as we push out other things.

speaker
Victor Hogberg
Analyst, Danske Bank

Would you say it would make sense to add that? extra capacity so that you wouldn't have to delay stuff? Or is it testament to the uncertainty of the potential signings and the pipeline?

speaker
Christian Ullén
Chief Executive Officer

It's something we're evaluating, but it's not impossible. Having said that, it's not always the easiest to just integrate new people into an organization and get them fully up to speed day one.

speaker
Victor Hogberg
Analyst, Danske Bank

I respect that. Okay, on the office guidance then, and ties into this one, keeps on narrowing, but still a quite wide range, 10 million for the second half. What's the puts and takes to that range?

speaker
David Kenyon
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, there's a few that are kind of share price linked, where we have costs that are on options, for example, that are linked to share prices and various kind of variable staff costs, which are performance-based. So there is some uncertainty, but overall we've got a pretty clear view on where we're heading with costs. But, of course, there are a few moving parts, which is why we can't narrow it. even tighter yet, but hopefully we'll narrow it again at Q3, and I think we've got a good track record of coming in within our guidance, so hopefully you can get a good steer from it.

speaker
Victor Hogberg
Analyst, Danske Bank

Given the Q3 guidance, it leaves a lot for the fourth quarter. It can't all be tied to share. I'm just thinking it seems like quite a big range for the fourth quarter, actually, given what we know now. um is it too wide very comfortable uh with not being above it or or sorry not about but in the high end of it would it be more reasonable to be in the mid slash lower end of of the guidance what we know now i think historically we've typically come in at the towards the middle maybe lower middle um so you know you use that information as you wish um

speaker
David Kenyon
Chief Financial Officer

We will narrow it again at Q3 for Q4. I mean, there's no great moving parts here. There are just some, and we don't want to give you the wrong guidance. So don't draw too many conclusions.

speaker
Victor Hogberg
Analyst, Danske Bank

Okay, that's it for me. Thank you.

speaker
Operator
Conference Operator

There are no more questions at this time, so I hand the conference back to the speakers for any closing comments.

speaker
Minoo Lander
Senior Vice President, Investor Relations

Thank you. We have a few here. We start with BALIS. First, just to clarify that they will use this outside the U.S. as well, right? Is this correct?

speaker
Christian Ullén
Chief Executive Officer

Yes, absolutely. I think the focus from BALIS at the moment is on getting us up and running as soon as possible in the U.S. And after that, we will focus on outside of Europe. Yeah, outside of the U.S., sorry.

speaker
Minoo Lander
Senior Vice President, Investor Relations

And after the decision of Ballast to leave their own sportsbook technology, do you expect a similar trend?

speaker
Christian Ullén
Chief Executive Officer

I surely hope so. I think there are definitely more operators out there that are working on a technology that is... very likely to not be giving them the best chance to win market shares and also not being very cost efficient for them.

speaker
Minoo Lander
Senior Vice President, Investor Relations

Thank you. David, a question for you here. You have previously talked about how big Penn is of revenue. Is anything you can

speaker
David Kenyon
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, sure. I mean, in the past, we've talked about them being 10% to 15% of our revenue based on the public data that you can then kind of make some wild assumptions and get back to 10% to 15%. I'd say with the trend we've talked about in the last couple of quarters, they've definitely come towards the lower end of that. of that range in terms of our contributing to our revenue worth bearing in mind of course we're going to keep operating the retail from july onward so you know that's approximately a quarter of of the business that will stay with us and for the rest we're then covered by those transition fees of 15 million dollars over the next five quarters i talked about so yeah of course it's a shame to lose that business but i feel financially we're actually quite well protected for the for the coming coming quarters

speaker
Minoo Lander
Senior Vice President, Investor Relations

Thank you. Christian, during the negotiation with EAS, how did you do? And you were live since day one. And how do you feel about them being live in Brazil?

speaker
Christian Ullén
Chief Executive Officer

Not sure I understood the question there.

speaker
Minoo Lander
Senior Vice President, Investor Relations

No, sorry, me neither.

speaker
David Kenyon
Chief Financial Officer

I guess it was that they launched so quickly after signing.

speaker
Christian Ullén
Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, I mean, we feel that Brazil is a grey market. We have not restricted our current operators to operate in Brazil, historically either. We felt quite confident to let Lens operate from day one if they felt they wanted to.

speaker
Minoo Lander
Senior Vice President, Investor Relations

Are you excited about the announcement from Brazil?

speaker
Christian Ullén
Chief Executive Officer

Yes, absolutely. I think... I would be quite surprised if a parliament is not going on the same line as a president and that this will be signed off within the mandated time of 120 days.

speaker
Minoo Lander
Senior Vice President, Investor Relations

Yeah, great. Exciting. We have been discussing for many, many years, so it's very exciting that it's moving. There are quite a few questions regarding AI. Is this the model you actually believe most in? of all the models? How do you think about it?

speaker
Christian Ullén
Chief Executive Officer

The model of pricing? Yes, without a doubt. I think there will always be some sports where it's not really worthwhile taking it the whole way because the sports are so small. But for all the big sports, this is definitely the way. I think... It will create a much, much richer product for end users. We can do it more cost efficiently and we can do it with well less errors as well. So I can only see upside with the new technology out there.

speaker
Minoo Lander
Senior Vice President, Investor Relations

And how do you see the product roadmap? We are live now with soccer. What's next?

speaker
Christian Ullén
Chief Executive Officer

So, as we said earlier, we hope to be able to get soccer in play, launched during the autumn. And next up is tennis, which we would hope to, best case, get up and running early next year. If we're really, really doing a good job, maybe even for Australian Open.

speaker
Minoo Lander
Senior Vice President, Investor Relations

Great, exciting. David, over to you. Do you plan to announce any further buybacks the coming month?

speaker
David Kenyon
Chief Financial Officer

I mean, we did, of course, very recently complete some, so there's no imminent plans, nothing announced. But I would say you saw the cash balance now, which is debt-free, and we're just going to build that cash balance back up again, so we'll have the firepower to do it. Ultimately, it's a board decision if we go ahead, but it's definitely a possibility. We've done two rounds now.

speaker
Minoo Lander
Senior Vice President, Investor Relations

And then another one for you, David. Quick clarification. Did you say that Shape Games contributed 3.2 million euros in Q2?

speaker
David Kenyon
Chief Financial Officer

In revenue, yes.

speaker
Minoo Lander
Senior Vice President, Investor Relations

In revenue, yes. Yeah. Clarifying that. Christian, can you talk a bit more about ABIOS and their odds products and their launch with the first partner?

speaker
Christian Ullén
Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. So, I mean, this has been... Ongoing quite a long time. They already had started working on their odds product when we acquired them. And it's looking really, really good. It's very early days. I would say that this is... very much based on similar technology as the rest of our ai trading since they obviously have cooperated so very exciting now i think the biggest step for us is to to actually being able to to utilize this on on The Canby network, which is ongoing. And then I think that is probably for EBIOS extremely important to get a larger audience on it to be able to sell it to more customers.

speaker
Minoo Lander
Senior Vice President, Investor Relations

Cool. And the last question here, the classic pipeline. Can you say anything more? Is it the U.S., Latam or Europe?

speaker
Christian Ullén
Chief Executive Officer

I think we have opportunities more or less everywhere except Antarctica at the moment.

speaker
Minoo Lander
Senior Vice President, Investor Relations

Great stuff. Thank you very much, Christian and David. And thank you very much for listening to us today. We will be back here with our Q3 report, 1st of November. As always, if you have questions, feel free to reach out to the IO department. And I really wish you a very good day. Thank you.

speaker
David Kenyon
Chief Financial Officer

Thank you.

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