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Kjell Group AB (publ)
2/13/2025
Good morning and welcome to this presentation of Shell Groups Q4 and the end of the year communiqué for 2024. My name is Andreas Rylander and I am the CEO of Shell & Company. And with me today I have our CFO Thomas Persson. During today's presentation, we will go through a little quickly what has happened during the quarter. Thomas will go into a little more detail about the result before we conclude with some Q&As. If we look at our fourth quarter, we can gladly note that we have a positive sales trend, where sales increase by a little, but increase in the quarter. Both the gross profit in the quarter increases, Which means that we eventually strengthen our adjusted EBITDA and end up with an EBITDA of 33.3 million in the quarter. If we look at the year as a whole, we have previously found that the sky market has been still tough, but the fourth quarter indicates a lightening in our eyes. If you look at the fourth quarter and a little more in detail about it, it is natural in our industry, a very campaign-driven fourth quarter, where we have Black Friday and where we have Christmas trade with Mellandagsregera and everything around it. In the second half of the quarter, we have seen positive traffic in both service points, both in the Swedish and Norwegian markets, which is really a positive indication for us that the market is back, but also an indication of the work we have done with both sortiment and marketing to give results and progress in it. And in light of that, we are extra pleased to be able to present a result that is strengthened towards the beginning of the year. Something we feel very pleased with today. If we continue to look at what happened during the quarter, we have continued to work with our Danish company in AV Cables, where we have done We have lifted the Danish business to a completely new e-commerce platform. This is a step in integrating the Danish business completely into Kjell and the Swedish part. We will move all parts into Kjell Sweden during the year, and therefore be much more efficient. During the quarter, this has had a somewhat negative impact on our sales, while we see that profitability in the Danish part has improved radically, which is also positive, something that we expect to be able to continue to strengthen in the future. We have also communicated during the quarter that we will invest in a new central warehouse for cells that will distribute to both cells and to AV Cables, something that we also see as an important part of the company's journey forward and a central part of becoming even more effective throughout our supply chain. Det här är ett stort steg för bolaget och något som vi ser fram emot mycket för att kunna säkerställa bolaget för framtiden ännu mer. Vi kommer påbörja byggnationen redan här under andra kvartalet i år av en Autostore-lösning. Parts of the business will move in in 2025, but it will be integrated into the business in 2026. We have also continued to optimize our operations throughout the year. We have done a lot of reorganizations and optimizations to become an even more efficient company by 2025. HILDE has also continued to adjust a lot around our tournament offers, pricing, marketing with more, just to become more attractive in the market to ensure long-term relevance. Vi har ytterligare ett nytt samarbete. Vi har ju sedan tidigare jobbat med Circle K i några år med Shopping Shops. Under kvartalet så presenterar vi också ett samarbete med Ekostormarknad där vi har en lite större Shopping Shop på ungefär 80 kvadrat. Och nu efter kvartalets slut så har vi även signerat för att rulla ut i samtliga av Ekos under 2025, something that we look forward to very, very much. In combination with this, we also have, perhaps more in combination with the presentation of the central storage, we went out with the board having a plan to include a production emission, something that also makes it possible to strengthen our balance calculation when we move forward. All these parts make us see the positive in the future, and we have a clear way to get back to a stronger and above all higher margin in the last row when we move forward. And just these parts that I have been talking about, that for the part of the year, there is a great focus on continuing to adapt our assortment, strengthen assortment offers to drive more customers, but also more profitable customers. Vi fortsätter effektivisera vår drift av verksamheten med bland annat ett nytt centrallager, men också en hel del i den övriga delen av verksamheten och bli mer effektiva. Then we still have a chance to see a gradual improvement in the market we operate in, which we know has been tough for the consumer. But we see both tax cuts and interest cuts, especially perhaps in the second half, should give a positive effect on the sentiment in the market. And with that in mind, we have also gone out with new financial goals regarding from and with now and forward. We want to be clear that for the company's part, there is a clear focus on strengthening the margin, where growth has to go back a little bit to focus on further profitability for the company. Vi känner oss trygga i att det finns god potential att komma tillbaka till, inte bara där vi var, utan ännu högre nivåer över tid. Någonting som vi som bolag är väldigt fokuserade på att leverera på framåt. Thomas kommer gå in lite mer i de detaljerna kring nettoskuld och liknande, så jag passar på att lämna över till Thomas för att gå igenom kvartalet lite mer i detalj.
Thank you, Andreas. Let's move on to the financial development and start with sales. The quarter showed a strong improvement compared to the third quarter. Sales rose to 773 million, which means an increase of 1.5% compared to the previous year. In Sweden, sales increased by 2% and in Norway by an impressive 13.4%. However, in Denmark, sales decreased by 16.1%, temporarily affected by the organizational changes we have made. Den jämförbara tiden växande för kvartalet uppgick till 1%. Segmentsfördelningen av försäljningen i kvartalet motsvarar för Sverige 73%, Norge 17% och Danmark utgör 10%. Jämfört med samma kvartal föregående år så bibehåller Sverige sin andel, medan Norge ökar med 2 procentenheter på bekostnad av Danmark som mister motsvarande. The channel distribution for the group remains relatively unchanged compared to the previous year, where Click & Collect increased by 2% and ServicePoints decreased by 1%. The sales through our online channels are unchanged with almost 30% of total sales. If we then look at the result, it adjusted a bit. In the quarter, it increased to 33.3 million, which is 4.9 million higher than the previous year's 28.4 million. Som nämndes har vi en positiv försäljningsutveckling i kvartalet, om 1,5 %, där Sverige och Norge har sett positiv tillväxt, men Danmark minskar i omsättning. Minskningen i Danmark är hemföljd till de strategiska initiativ som tagits under året för att integrera AB Capers till den svenska organisationen, vilket har lett till en temporär negativ påverkan på omsättningen, med förbättringen i operativ effektivitet och kostnadsstruktur som har bidragit till en högre lönsamhet. Bruttomarginalen minskade kvartalet med 0,4 procentenheter och uppgick till 39,4 procent. Den lägre bruttomarginalen förklaras av produktmixeffekter på grund av en högre försäljningsandel av externa varumärken där vi har en lägre marginal som till viss del kompenseras av att vi kvartalet hade en högre marginal på våra egna varumärken jämfört med samma kvartal föregående år. Jämförelsesstörande poster som justerar en bita uppgår till 8,7 miljoner för kvartalet och 16,7 miljoner för perioden. Detta är hänförande till de omstrukturerade kostnader i form av personalförändringar, vilket ger oss en lägre kostnadsmassa inför 2025 och är ett steg för att öka vår verksamhet. Kvartalet ser en kostnadsreducering inom centrala funktionerna till följd av lägre personalkostnader, hänförande till omstruktureringen. Lägre marknadsföringskostnader, där stora marknadssatsningar i form av TV-reklam i Sverige och Norge har ersatts med mer kostnadseffektiva lösningar samt lägre avskrivningar. Kostnadsmassan blev dock negativt påverkad av valutaeffekter, här en följd till den svagare svensk krona till ett belopp om 6,6 miljoner i kvartalet och 12,4 miljoner i perioden. Tittar vi på de olika segmenten så ser vi att Sverige ökar försäljningen 2% till 565 miljoner. Ökningen drivs primärt av fler transaktioner i våra service points och ett ökat snittkvitto. Den justerade bitamarginalen minskade med 0,2 procentenheter som ett resultat av sänkt bruttomarginal, vilket kompenseras något av en lägre kostnadsbas. Den lägre bruttomarginalen är ett resultat av en ökad försäljningsavdel av växten av varumärken på bekostnad av ägare. Marginalen belastades även av negativa valutakurser. Som tidigare nämnt så växte Norge starkt med 13,4 procent till 130 miljoner. Tillväxten förklaras likt Sverige av ett ökat antal transaktioner och ett ökat snittkvitto jämfört med föregående år. Den justerade biten av marginalen stärks med 3,4 procentenheter som ett resultat av förbättrad bruttomarginal och lägre kostnader. Segment Danmark minskade med 16,1 procent och uppgick till 78 miljoner i kvartalet. The decrease is explained by a lower number of transactions and a lower average rate. The adjusted bit of the margin is strengthened by 1.8 percent a year through lower costs as well as a stronger gross margin. If we look at the cash flow, Core Working Capital was at the beginning of the quarter higher in absolute terms, as well as a part of the net turnover compared to the previous year. The increase is mainly explained by the increase in goods. Kassaflödet från den löpande verksamheten minskade 15 miljoner jämfört med föregående år. Det försämrade kassaflödet från den löpande verksamheten förklarades främst av högre lager som ett resultat av lägre försäljning än förväntat i innevarande kvartal samt förväntningar på kommande kvartal. Nettoskulden ökade med 9 miljoner jämfört med föregående år och finansiell nettoskuld i relation till rullande tolv justerades en bit därefter leasingsteg till 4,1. from last year's 2.8, due to a lower adjusted EBITDA after leasing. And as Andreas mentioned about the investment, in connection with the fact that we have already subsidized our investment in a new automated central bank, we feel that it is our ambition to carry out a fully guaranteed performance emission of at least SEK 200 million, with the aim of strengthening our balance sheet and being able to make a bigger financial action The investment is expected to be carried out in the coming months, provided that it is approved by an upcoming extra company. With liquidation from the investment and a carried out investment in the new central bank, we predict that the net debt in relation to the 12 adjusted pieces will drop from a quarter of 4.1 multiple to 2.5. This means that we are approaching our updated target of less than two times. More information on the mission will be announced at a later date.
That was the financial part. Back to you, Andreas.
Thank you very much, Thomas. When we sum up the quarter, there are many different parts that I want to highlight. Especially the positive customer flow we saw in the store during the latter part of Q4, something we take with us and strengthen when we enter 2025. But also the possibility to compensate for costs and Utmaningar som ändå har funnits i marknaden på ett effektivt sätt och stärka resultatet i kvartalet är också någonting som jag känner mig stolt över och någonting som organisationen har jobbat hårt med. När vi tittar framåt också så ser vi att de satsningar vi har gjort under 2025 ger oss möjligheter, eller under 2024 ger oss möjligheter nu in i 2025 att bli ett betydligt starkare bolag som vi gick igenom tidigt. That in combination with the fact that we continue to see a good innovation in the market with new technological developments that makes it still challenging to be a consumer and understand technology, we see that Shell continues to play a very strong role in helping people to get their technology to work and something that we will continue to work very hard to develop our offer, our assortment towards being the obvious choice for consumers who need help with technology. Det i kombination också med en stark balansräkning i en förmodad emission, ett nytt centrallager med hög effektivisering, gör oss otroligt laddare nu när vi går in i 2025 och ser stort fram emot det kommande året som kommer. Det var det vi hade i dagens presentation och med det så lämnar vi över till frågor om det finns några.
Under frågestunden kan deltagarna ställa frågor genom att trycka fyrkant 5 på sin telefon. Om du vill dra tillbaka din fråga, vänligen tryck fyrkant 6. Den nästa frågan kommer från Niklas Ekman från Carnegie. Varsågod!
Tack så mycket. Jag har några frågor här. Först är jag lite nyfiken på Norge, där ni rapporterar en stark tillväxt i det här kvartalet. Det är trots att jag förstår att den norska marknaden är mycket tuffare makromässigt än Sverige i alla fall. Vad drivs det här av? Kanske som en följdfråga, det har varit ganska stor volatilitet i er norska försäljning. Det har varit ganska starka upp- och nedgångar de senaste kvartalen. Varför är Norge just så volatil?
Yes, as we have for the time being in Norway, it is quite a campaign-sensitive market. And just as you mentioned, it is possibly tougher consumer-wise on the Norwegian market than what we have in Sweden for the time being. So just different campaigns, different marketing, have for our part reacted very positively in some cases and less positively in other cases. And that is perhaps what is the turning point. Over time, we see that the Norwegian market has a great potential to continue to grow. The Norwegian consumer has the same challenges as the Swedish consumer when it comes to technology. So this is definitely a big focus for our part in the future as well, and continue to work with the Norwegian market. If we look specifically at Q4, as Thomas mentioned, we shifted from TV advertising, which has not been so effective for us, to having a little more both advertising in the city, but also more traditional advertising to strengthen the brand Kjell & Company.
Okay, clear. Very good. Then I wonder if this collaboration with Ekostormarknad, can you quantify a little bit of what you expect for sales potential there? And perhaps a little bit in relation to Circle K. And now I don't really remember what the Circle K collaboration is about, how much it contributes to this. Just to understand the size of this, how much you expect to achieve. I understand that this is a much larger Shop-in-Shop solution than what you have at Circle K, but on the other hand, Circle K is of course much more gas stations as well.
Yes, it is still quite a small scale in this and it is still a new business model for us where we sell our own goods, but you can say between 1 and 2 percent in revenue in roughly, uppskattning i påverkan i 2025.
Okej, och liknande då från SearchOK? Eller är det mer eller mindre än SearchOK?
Det är väl kanske no, det är ganska lika får man ändå säga. Över tid så kanske vi ser att eko är något större än SearchOK.
Niklas, vi kommer ju fasa in ekostormarknad under året först i mars och sen så kommer det under hela året så det är först i slutet av året som alla 13 är up and running.
Jättebra, jättebra. Sen nyemissionen här, kan ni säga någonting om tajming och storlek? Ni har ju en stämma här 21 maj, men det här ska beslutas på en extra stämma. Kan ni säga någonting mer? Jag gissar att den här extra stämman kommer att komma innan den ordinarie stämman?
Ja, det är väl vad man kan spekulera. Det är ju en fråga för styrelsen, så den lämnar vi till det. Och när det kommer till storleken så är ju det den informationen vi har gått ut med sedan tidigare, att vi har en garanterad storlek på 200 miljoner, och det håller fast vi.
Yes, and you say at least 200 million, but I saw that you talked here about the amount of debt would decrease from 4.1 to 2.5 times. Is that based on 200 million or is it based on a higher figure than 200 million? It is based on 200 million. Clear and clear. Very good. Thank you very much. Thank you.
Som en påminnelse, om du vill ställa en fråga tryck fyrkant 5 på din telefon. Det finns inga fler frågor just nu, så jag lämnar över ordet till talarna för eventuella avslutande kommentarer eller skrivna frågor.
Great, thank you. We have received some inquiries as well. The first is related to AV Cables and the brand in Sweden. How will it be consolidated? That is not our thought. AV Cables in our eyes is another brand and will have a somewhat different choice than what Shell will have and focus on a slightly different customer. However, AV Cables is primarily on the Danish market, something that we will continue to operate on the Danish market. I have a question related to growth in Denmark. We have implemented a new ERP during the year to support the core business and a completely new e-commerce platform in Denmark. When it comes to growth, The first quarter will be more in line with the last quarter, while over the year we will expect a stronger growth in Denmark. However, it is important to say that the things we have done in the Danish business make us both expect and, as we can see in the fourth quarter, see a positive effect on the effectiveness of the company and profitability above all. Then there was another question regarding the margin, but connected to the gross margin. When it comes to the gross margin, for our part, we buy pretty much everything with a dollar exposure, which means that the recent strong dollar rise means that we need to work harder with both negotiations with suppliers, but also pricing. Something we have worked a lot with, and even in the fourth quarter we are holding back. Despite a very high campaign period, the margins are in line with previous years. Something that we see will speed up during the first part of the year, but where we hope to get through both price changes, but also an increased share of our own brands that will strengthen the margins over time. If we move on to the questions, we have also received a more detailed question related to our advice and maybe related to how much you should pay for it. Part of the core concept, especially in our stores, is to help customers with technology. And this is something that basically we think is very decisive when it comes to retail to compete with Digitale handelbara så framförallt i vår del där det handlar om att kunderna i många fall inte vet riktigt vad man ska köpa så Väldig viktig del i Kjells koncept i att kunna bistå kunderna med with things they did not know that one of them would have or two needed. So that's something that we see. When it comes to further support, we definitely see that there is a possibility of perhaps selling services linked to that, where you can take paid instead, and that is something that we constantly evaluate what opportunities there are in nearby alternatives to be able to capitalize on in the future. Det tar vi med oss. Det var de frågorna vi har fått in idag. Vi passar på att tacka så mycket för alla som har lyssnat in i dagens call och så får vi önska en fortsatt fin torsdag.
Ha det bra!