4/24/2025

speaker
Hjalmar
Moderator

Hi and welcome to the Pricer Q1 2025 presentation. We are joined today by CEO Magnus Larsson, who will present the first quarter. As a reminder, questions can be submitted and they will be addressed during the Q&A session. With that said, Magnus, welcome and the floor is yours.

speaker
Magnus Larsson
CEO

Thank you very much, Hjalmar. I'd like to start by also saying that unfortunately, Claes could not join us today. He fell sick. But I'm pretty sure you're watching the webcast right now to make sure I'm not saying anything incorrect. Let me start with a press room brief for those of you joining that might not know us that well. Our vision is to be the preferred partner for in-store communication and digitalization. This actually means that when we updated it quite recently, we did a lot of service. We did a lot of inside studies with our customers, a lot of interviews. And in addition to appreciation of our technology, I think one thing that people lifted was the way we work, the way we engage, and the partnership they believe that we have. And I think this is the reason why we, unlike many of our competitors, are able to get engaged customers also in the promotion to other potential customers of our solutions. Roughly 200 million people, 200 people, 200 employees. We have delivered more than 350 million labels worldwide, which makes us number two in terms of installed base globally. We are working actively with our SaaS service. It's called Plaza. We currently have more than 5,000 stores on Plaza. And it's one of the key objectives for the year to actually expand that number quite much. This is a slide I normally use as context for new investors to explain prices of today versus prices of before. We have done quite a huge transformation over the last three years. We looked at the go to market. How can we actually speed up growth? We have been looking at the balance sheet. How can we actually strengthen our financing? We've been transforming the company, looking at our cost base. We've been looking at the way we work. And we concluded last year with actually being done with the transformational phase, saying that now we have set the baseline for the coming growth and coming profitable growth in line with our financial targets. Now presenting a quarter that I've not been very pleased with on net sales, on order intake, we fell short of our internal expectation. And with background in sales, I want every single quarter to be better than the previous one. But as a business manager, I also realize that's not feasible. Right now, we're doing the right things. We have transformed the company. We're still working with it. We have an updated strategy with a lot of actions defined that will actually take us to the position that we want, where we actually gain market share and where we deliver profitable growth in line with our financial targets. But the business is lumpy. There will be the world where things happen affecting it. But we're doing the right thing. So even though I'm not pleased with this quarter, I am pleased with the work that we have done actually looking into the future and the future sales. I think it would be good to start also with looking at the market. Now we have a lot of input from our competitors, a lot of intel on the performance. We believe that the market will grow 15% annually over time until 2030. But we've also seen that now Q4 was a year where the market did not grow at that space. Our assumption is that actually the global market growth for ESL was below 5%. which was sort of the entrance to this year. We could see that the North American market showed really good growth. We have had good progress in Canada. And we can see that the US market has opened. We could also see that Europe fell behind on the global scale. We are quite convinced that last year that we were actually gaining market share on the European market, unlike most of our competitors. We feel pretty good about the European market. And for the coming future, we believe that we will continue to expand in Europe. Then it's, of course, up for us to prove it and show it. But compared to competition last year, we were actually growing our market share. What we see now also in Q1 is that given the changes of administration in the US, the impact on the market economy globally, this is of course also reflected in the way our customers behave. We haven't met any customers so far in the quarter. We're not in the discussions where the customer said that we no longer believe in digitalization. We'll not spend money on digitalization. On the contrary, they all say that they want to do it and they need to do it. But we see an uncertainty for investments. Is this the right time? Should we wait a little bit? So what I would expect is that the timing of investments that we've seen in Q1, that's something we would most likely see in Q2 and possibly throughout the year. So I think that I want you to be prepared that we see the future, we see the possibility, we see the growth and the opportunity. But it's also good to remind ourselves there is a lot of uncertainty right now on the global market affecting our customers. We had the retail technology show in London, now beginning of April. It was a fantastic show. There is a lot of customer interest. We can see that the UK market and the UK show, the retail tech show in UK, unlike the show NRF in New York, is very much focused on business. And RF, you go to, of course, to do business, but maybe at larger to check the trends and see what's happening and do your plans for the coming maybe three years, three to five years. Whereas in the retail tech show in London, it's a business show. We had meetings set up with pretty much all tier one retailers within grocery, but also within do-it-yourself, within home electronics. they are all one way or another looking at digitizing their stores. And I'm pretty sure that we will see the first move either at the end of this year or beginning of next year, where one of the tier one retailers said that we are now decided to make a rollout across the in-state of ESL or large ESL rollout. So that's my expectation. And that means at best, yes, there could be some revenues at the end of 2025, but more likely in 2026. I would also like to mention one of our most recent wins on the British market. It's a company called Company Shop. So why did Company Shop select Pricer? Well, the key reason is that Company Shop, what they do is that they sell grocery supply. So they surplus, so they buy it from all the other T1s. Their customers are typically people with less money. So they buy all this surplus grocery. They start with a price that is 40% below the recommended price. Then they lower the price continuously throughout the day until they've sold it all out. So they're addressing waste, but they're also helping the community to make sure that they get food at a lower cost. But it would not have been possible for them to do this with anyone else than ourselves because we had the ability to continuously help them day in and day out to actually do the price changes without compromising the quality. We launched Price Avenue in January. We launched it on the NRF exhibition. So I thought I wanted to give you an update on where we are with the Avenue product. We have been shortlisted now for two innovation awards. We have good progress in the development. We have a number of customers that have said that, yes, can we please do a pilot with you? We are now in a phase where we want to decide with whom we are going to do the pilots. But it's created a lot of interest. And I think that we have a global head of ESL at the T1 retail. It's actually none of our current customers. They said that the most interesting thing at the entire NRF was price revenue. We could also see that the ability to use price revenue for merchandise in the store has been lifted in by several and also here by Parsers Venture Capital following the market. So good progress. We do expect to do our pilots during the second half and that we should have a system ready for commercialization at the end of the year. On a strategic plan, what are we doing in 2025? Well, profitable growth. We want to make sure we reach our EBIT targets. We want to make sure we reach our growth targets. We will further, actually, we have been planning to spend more on the UK market. But based on the feedback that we have on the market and the activity that we see, we will actually spend more. And there will be a stronger focus to actually capture the opportunities we see on the market. We did a structure in Australia. We separated markets. We have growth markets where we feel that we are underinvested. We will do additional investments. And there is a huge market to be captured. UK is one of those. We have markets that we say are established markets. Well, we have an established operation, and we actually believe that we pretty much have what we need. There will be growth, but it will be lower level growth. There we want to see how can we actually make sure that all these markets are run in an efficient way. So in France, we're doing a number of efficiency measures, basically then doing some restructuring on the operations. to improve the way work to work with the right thing in line with focusing on the key segments. But also, of course, to see how can we lift the corporate profitability. I think also worthwhile to mention is that the strategic shift we do now in the Nordic and Baltic markets, where we are deploying our own sales force and service force, is that we do expect to grow sales. We do expect to grow profitability and gross margin on this market. both on an EBIT level and on gross profit point of view. So this is the view we have. We have good discussions with all our current customers. We expect the vast majority to continue with Pricer and to continue to invest in new technology and new products together with Pricer. So positive outlook on Nordic. We will, of course, try to win and choose a market on the prioritized market, North America, UK, Southern Europe, mainly Italy and Spain. We will focus on hyper and supermarkets within grocery, pharmacies, do it yourself. These are the areas where I see we have our absolute sweet spot. So I'd rather spend more time on these segments and let our salespeople spend more time on these segments, since we know that this is where we perform the best. This is where our competitors have more difficult time to beat us. We are working more with the sales organization, the way we engage with customer, the way we do solution selling. And of course, we'll continue to invest in our portfolio. There's a lot of work going on on Plaza and additional Plaza applications, obviously also on Avenue, but also strategic partnerships like with Focal Systems, where we do AI and computer vision. Sales and gross margin development. So now take on the CFO hat. It's, of course, disappointing to see a declining order intake and net sales in the quarter. But what I do like about this picture is the gross profit, where we can see that we have managed to maintain a high gross margin of 23.3%. And we can also see that the gross profit is contributing on the rolling EBIT development where we actually now closer just below 8% on our EBIT level, which is the financial target. If you look at the PLL, there are a few things that I know that some of you have asked about already today. I think the first thing I would like to cover is the FX effects. Well, we've seen a weakening dollar. It's been going quite fast, so the hedging that we do have not been sufficient. We have had fairly low trade payables. And we have had more than normal trade receivables in US dollar, which means that the 7.6 million in other income and expenses are mainly or actually primarily FX expenses reflecting the weakened dollar. You also see it on the financial items where currency fluctuations have made us get an FX effect of somewhere between 8 and 9 million Swedish krona. On this one, we have also made a change in our accounting. So if you look at the administrative expenses and find them high, we actually moved quite a bit of corporate expenses that we previously reported as selling expenses. We moved it from sales over to admin where we believe that it should have been or that it should actually be. So that's the reason why if you compare Q4 with Q1, it's not been a massive increase in recruitment, but it's actually been done a shift in sales. the way we actually do the booking of these costs. On the cash flow, we have a positive cash flow and a nice cash flow in Q1. Key thing is that we managed to lower the inventory level. As you might remember from the Q4 report, we had an over-inventory, too large inventory in Q4. We're spending a lot of time of actually selling that one, which is why you can see that the inventory is down. On the trade receivables, we have also spent a lot of time working with our customers to actually make sure we get payment in time. Last year, we went from doing factoring, which means that now we have to make sure that we get all the payments in time. So we spent some extra admin on this one, and it's actually been paying off really well. So these are the key things on the operational activities. If you look at the financial activity, you will also see when you look at the report that we have a 250 million post. It's actually for the repayment of the private bond that we had with Turi Invest. So then summarizing before we move into the Q&A. So as mentioned, the net sales and order intake were not on the level that I was expecting or was hoping for. But I was happy to see that markets like Canada and Benelux did show growth. And of course, I do with the order from Sobis that is progressing well. We do believe that Canada will be a large and very important market for us also this year and next year. The sales in QN was, of course, impacted by the weakening dollar, as mentioned. But as we do all our production in US dollars, and we have a lot of the majority of sales in euros, if the current FX level or the dollar level stays versus Europe, we also see that over the year, we will actually increase our gross profit and gross margin on all products sold in Europe. There has been concern with the order intake. It's also here I want to be open that we have a number of interesting customer dialogues, customer engagements, customer pilots, and of course, customer opportunities. And it's a growing number. And of course, now with the uncertainty that we have on the market, let's see if they become real deals for us or someone else this year, or if there will be some time slippage. But the thing is, we do not see any customer hesitating on making an investment. It's primarily timing. And we are confident that we will also take part of all those opportunities that we see and that we address right now. And maybe as a conclusion, with a new go-to market for Nordic and Baltics, I would like to take the opportunity to welcome all existing customers that we have on the market, but also, of course, all the new customers that we intend to win on the market. So that's pretty much what I had to say for now. So I think, Hjalmar, over to you.

speaker
Hjalmar
Moderator

That's great. Thank you so much, Magnus. And I was thinking maybe we start off with Europe and France. You mentioned streamlining operations in this, of course, important market. Is this because you are dissatisfied with the development here? Maybe you could give us some more color on what initiatives you're launching? What did you expect the impact to be? And when can we see the full impact of this?

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