8/7/2025

speaker
Josh
Conference Operator

Good morning. My name is Josh, and I will be your conference operator today. I would like to welcome everyone to the Edentra second quarter 2025 results conference call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during this time, simply press star, then the number one on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, please press the star button followed by the number two. With me on the call are Rob Brown, Edentra's president and CEO, and Fez Kormily, vice president and CFO. Edentra's Q2 2025 earnings release, financial statements, MDNA, and other quarterly filings are available on the investor section of our website at www.edentragroup.com. These statements have also been filed on Edentra's profile on Cedar Plus at www.cedarplus.ca. I want to remind listeners that management's comments during this call may include forward-looking statements. These statements involve various known and unknown risks and uncertainties that are based on management's current expectations and beliefs, which may prove to be incorrect. Actual results could differ materially from these described in these forward-looking statements. Please refer to the text and the dentist's earnings, press release, and financial filings for discussion of the risks and uncertainties associated with these forward-looking statements. All dollar figures referred today are in U.S. dollars, unless stated otherwise. I would now like to turn the call over to Rob Brown.

speaker
Rob Brown
President and CEO

Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. We delivered strong results in the second quarter, demonstrating the resilience of Edentra's business model in what continues to be a challenging environment. Residential construction remains soft, and macro uncertainty, particularly around the U.S. trade landscape, continues to weigh on sentiment. Despite that backdrop, we delivered sales of 597 million, adjusted EBITDA of 54 million, and adjusted EPS of 88 cents. Sales were up nearly 9% compared to last year, with the increase driven by the contribution from Wolf Distributing, which we acquired last summer. On an organic basis, sales held steady, Modest volume declines were offset by pricing gains. It's encouraging to see product pricing gradually recover after a prolonged period of deflation in 2023 and early 2024. Given our price pass-through model, higher prices generally translate into stronger revenue and gross profit, notwithstanding changes in market demand. We also saw improvement in gross margin both year over year and sequentially, reflecting effective pricing and procurement execution. And on the cost side, we continued to manage the business with discipline. Organic operating expenses were up less than 1%, which is well below inflation. Cash flow from operations was solid, at 33.9 million, and we returned 11.2 million to shareholders during the quarter through dividends and share repurchases. Since March, we've repurchased more than 680,000 shares, representing roughly 3% of shares outstanding, at an average price of Canadian $28 per share. Our leverage ratio ended the quarter at 3.0 times up from 2.4 times at the start of the year. That reflects the typical inventory build we see in the first half of the year as we prepare for the seasonally stronger summer and fall construction season. We expect inventory to come down in the second half, which, when combined with cash flows from operations, should bring leverage back into the mid-twos range by year end and position us well for 2026. On the M&A front, we've completed seven acquisitions over the past five years, representing over $1.2 billion in pro forma revenue. These transactions have expanded our reach, diversified our product offering, and increased our exposure to higher margin categories. Wolf, which we acquired at the end of July last year, has enhanced our presence in the US Midwest, introduced new specialty products, and strengthened our position with pro dealer customers. Turning to trade, approximately 14% of our product mix is now subject to country-specific tariffs at an average duty rate of 16%. The US Section 232 investigation into wood products remains ongoing, and depending on the outcome, an additional 20% of our product mix could ultimately be affected. That said, we've shown we can navigate this environment. Our price pass-through model allows us to preserve margins, and our sourcing network, which spans over 30 countries, gives us the flexibility to shift supply as we need to. We also benefit from strong domestic vendor relationships, which helps when customers prefer US sourced products. Finally, we had a positive outcome on the outstanding CVD and AD trade matter in the second quarter, resulting in a 9.7 million net recovery in operating expenses and an expected refund of 23.9 million in previously paid duties. While new CVD and AD investigations are underway, this relates to a smaller portion of our supply chain, and we do not expect a material financial impact from it. With that, I'll turn the call over to Fez to take you through the financials in more detail.

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Fez Kormily
Vice President and CFO

Fez? Thanks, Rob, and good morning, everyone. Let me walk you through our financial performance for the second quarter. And just a quick reminder, we report in US dollars. Total sales came in at $597.1 million, up 8.7% from the same period last year. That growth was largely driven by the contribution from Wolf Distributing, which we acquired at the end of July 2024. On the organic side, sales were flat. Pricing was up 2.3%, but that was offset by slightly lower volumes. Looking at the regional performance, in the US, sales grew 9.3%, reaching $551.6 million. That includes a $48.6 million contribution from Wolf. Organically, we saw price gains of 1.9%, which were offset by a 2.2% decline in volumes. In Canada, sales were Canadian $63.1 million, up 2.8%, with pricing up 3.6% and volumes down slightly. Gross profit was $130.1 million, an increase of 9.1%, and gross margin came in at 21.8%, up slightly from last year. That reflects both the benefit of higher pricing and strong execution on the procurement side. We also saw a 3.9% reduction in operating expenses. which came in at $88.6 million. That includes a $9.7 million recovery of trade duties, which helped offset the $5.5 million in expenses related to wealth and a small $0.6 million increase in organic operating costs. Adjusted EBITDA grew to $54.3 million, up 12% from Q2 of last year. That improvement was driven by the stronger gross profit and continued cost discipline across the business. Net income for the quarter was $22.1 million or $0.89 per share, up nearly 30% year-over-year. On an adjusted basis, net income was $21.9 million or $0.88 per share, compared to $1.03 last year. The year-over-year decline on an adjusted basis was due to higher interest and tax expense. Operating cash flow was 33.9 million compared to 23.8 million in Q2 of last year. That increase was driven by higher EBITDA and lower tax payments, partially offset by a 7.5 million investment in working capital. This investment is typical for this time of year as we build inventory ahead of the summer and fall construction season. We expect working capital to decline in the second half as inventory is sold through and converted to cash. We ended the quarter with net debt to EBITDA of three times, and we expect that number to come down closer to mid twos by year end as inventory days improve. We continue to have ample flexibility under our 600 million revolving credit facility, which we extended to 2030 earlier this year. Lastly, we remain disciplined and how we deploy capital. On August 6, the board approved a 15 cent quarterly dividend. And during Q2, we returned 11.2 million to shareholders through dividends and share buybacks. Since March, we repurchased more than 680,000 shares, representing roughly 3% of shares outstanding, at an average price of Canadian $28 per share, which we believe is meaningfully appreciated for our shareholders. With that, I'll turn things back to Rob to discuss our outlook. Rob?

speaker
Rob Brown
President and CEO

Thanks, Fez. While we're pleased with our second quarter results, we're approaching the near term with a degree of caution. affordability remains a challenge in the U.S. housing market, with persistently high mortgage rates and constrained inventory weighing on buyer activity. Trade-related uncertainty also continues to escalate, increasing the risk of renewed inflationary pressure. Reflecting these dynamics, our average daily sales in July are tracking modestly below Q2 levels, down about 4%. That said, we remain confident in the long-term fundamentals of the residential construction market. Structural undersupply, strong demographic demand, and an aging housing stock all point to continued underlying growth over time. As always, our focus is on disciplined execution. We're continuing to operate with rigor, drawing on our expertise, navigating through different points in the cycle. Our broad product offering, national footprint, and strong supplier relationships provide the flexibility we need to adapt and the foundation to perform. Looking ahead, we'll continue to advance our strategic priorities under our full cycle value creation framework. Our goal remains the same, to deliver double digit returns and accretive growth by driving platform efficiency pursuing organic initiatives, and executing targeted, disciplined M&A in our large and fragmented market. With that, I'll turn the call back to the operator for questions.

speaker
Josh
Conference Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question and answer session. If you have a question, please press the star button followed by the number one on your touchstone phone. You will hear a prompt that your hand has been raised. Should you wish to decline from the polling process, please press the star button followed by the number two. If you are using a speakerphone, please lift the handset before pressing any keys. One moment for your first question. First question is from Kyle McPhee of Cormac Securities. Please go ahead.

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Kyle McPhee
Analyst, Cormac Securities

Hello, everyone. First question, your commentary continues to suggest you'll pull capital out of inventory through the back half of the year. I'm just curious about the risk that maybe this doesn't happen. We all see supply chains and the trade environment and general risk being elevated, many companies across many sectors stocking up or stocking down. You know, is this something that may manifest for you just as a risk mitigation effort? You know, you opt to lean towards risk reduction versus deleveraging through inventory monetization, or do you really have no reason to have to do that?

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Rob Brown
President and CEO

I think you can take it as written, Kyle. The intention is to throw off a lot of cash in the second half. We're well positioned with inventory and the rate of sale that we've had and that we anticipate through Q3 and into Q4 should get us ready to go by year end. So we feel confident about that.

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Kyle McPhee
Analyst, Cormac Securities

Okay. Thanks for that confidence boost. Second one for me, just a higher level question. about one aspect of your long-term value creation framework. So that framework calls for EBITDA margins in the range of 8% to 10%. I'm curious on how you get from the lower end of that range where you've been prevailing in recent years to the higher end of that range, you know, in a durable way. Is that something that can be achieved from the current mix of business on the back of things like efficiencies and best practices? Or is the higher end of that range something that will require more scale and mix shift over time through your M&A programs, you know, adding scale and weighting towards higher margin categories and channels through time? Any color on this stuff would be appreciated.

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Rob Brown
President and CEO

Sure. Yeah, I don't think it needs to be dramatic, and we have operated above those standards. margin rates in the past in different points of the market cycle. But there is significant amount of operating leverage through the P&L. So obviously top line additions will help, whether that be through volume or pricing. We do feel like there's probably a tailwind here in pricing. We've seen that recently as well. And scale and product mix continuing to evolve as we have significantly shifted it over the last number of years. in part through just new supplier relationships, but also through our M&A program. We've continued to kind of upsize the specialty component of what we do. So it's not going to be one thing. It's going to be a combination of factors that gets us into the higher end of that range over time.

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Kyle McPhee
Analyst, Cormac Securities

Got it. Okay. Thanks for the call. I'll pass it on.

speaker
Josh
Conference Operator

Thanks, Carl. Next question is from Amir Patel from CIBC Capital Markets. Go ahead.

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Amir Patel
Analyst, CIBC Capital Markets

Hi, good morning.

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Kyle McPhee
Analyst, Cormac Securities

Rob, we're seeing a lot more larger M&A playing out in the distribution space. Has there been any evolution in the M&A pipeline of the sort of scale and type of targets that you're considering and any change in vendor expectations?

speaker
Rob Brown
President and CEO

I would say at this point, we obviously are keenly watching what's going on, and we're enjoying watching building products, distributors trade at what we think are good multiples. That's not been in our space from a product perspective, for one. So think of architectural building product categories as opposed to things like roofing and gypsum wallboard. And it's also been primarily around one-step distribution, so folks that are selling directly to builders, whereas we're the two-step channel and servicing a very important supply chain requirement with what we're doing. Those things combined, we're keeping our eye on it, of course, but they're not impacting our own acquisitions pipeline and our management of our M&A program going forward at this point.

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Amir Patel
Analyst, CIBC Capital Markets

Okay. And Rob, do you see any impact on your business from the master brand American Woodmark combination?

speaker
Rob Brown
President and CEO

Well, it was just yesterday, so not at this point. But you know, we view the continued consolidation upstream and downstream generally as a positive for us because you're working with partners that are larger, more sophisticated, and they're looking for the same in their distribution partners that can bring them, you know, worldwide sourcing solutions and a national footprint and scale solutions, you know, multi-geography, multi-product type of solutions. So, Generally, we like that. You know, American Woodmark, Master Brand, and Cabinet Works are kind of the big three from an OEM cabinet manufacturing perspective. And we do do some OEM business for sure, but we are focused very much also on the smaller to mid-sized, more regional and specialty customers as well. So they're just one piece of the challenge.

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Kyle McPhee
Analyst, Cormac Securities

Great. And just the last question I had, Fez, any sense of the timing of when you can expect the refund of the previously paid duties?

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Fez Kormily
Vice President and CFO

Hey, Amir. So the way I would describe that would be just from our understanding of the way the law is written, that should be payable to us within the next six months, essentially by the end of the year is our understanding. which is why we had the final result, we accrued it, and it's sitting on the current side of the balance sheet. That's the latest information we have. It supports the position we've taken. We will continue to look for communication out of Customs and Border Patrol, who administers this, as to timing and if they decide to do something different, but that's the information we have today.

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Kyle McPhee
Analyst, Cormac Securities

Great. Thanks. That's all I had. I'll turn it over.

speaker
Josh
Conference Operator

Next question is from Ian Gleis from Stifel.

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Ian Gleis
Analyst, Stifel

Good morning, guys.

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Frederick Tremblay
Analyst, Desjardins

Hey, Ian.

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Ian Gleis
Analyst, Stifel

For the July sales, average daily sales never being down 4%, are you able to provide, I guess, any detail around what are that – volume and what is that price? Just given tariffs, it's a little hard to measure that number just in isolation on its own.

speaker
Rob Brown
President and CEO

Yeah, I mean, we wanted to put that number out there to give people a little bit of a view of where things are at post the disclosure period. I would say that Things improved more near the latter half of July than the earlier part. So it's an early Q3 indicator that we can kind of look at. No specific comment on the price versus volume. I just think it's too early for that. I would say that it's not a specific geography. It's not a specific product category. It's an overall momentum comment across the business.

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Ian Gleis
Analyst, Stifel

Understood. Are you able to maybe talk a bit about some of the feedback you're getting from the various channels you work with? Obviously, you have your industrial distributors and your large big box retailer. Are you getting significantly different views from them, or is it pretty consistent across each channel?

speaker
Rob Brown
President and CEO

No, pretty consistent. And we obviously follow the public company rules. nor would I call out anything specifically different from the industrial channel.

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Ian Gleis
Analyst, Stifel

Understood. Thanks very much. I'll turn it back over. Thanks, Ian.

speaker
Josh
Conference Operator

Next question is from Zachary Evershed from National Bank Financial. Please go ahead.

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Zachary Evershed
Analyst, National Bank Financial

Morning, guys. Congrats on the quarter. Hey, good morning, Zach. Poking on that reading in July, would you say it's fair to say that there was a kind of gradual slowing into June and then July that might hint at some overall momentum, as you mentioned?

speaker
Rob Brown
President and CEO

Well, I mean, it's four weeks. I probably wouldn't say either of us would try to parse it any more than I just did, which is to say there's a little more momentum near the end of July than the beginning. So we'll have to see how things proceed through the balance of the corner here.

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Kyle McPhee
Analyst, Cormac Securities

Gotcha.

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Zachary Evershed
Analyst, National Bank Financial

Thanks.

speaker
Josh
Conference Operator

Oh, I apologize on that. If you could just press the star button again on that question. I didn't mean to cut you off. I thought you were done. Zachary, I apologize for that. In the meantime, we do have Kyle McPhee from Cormac Securities. Go ahead, Kyle.

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Kyle McPhee
Analyst, Cormac Securities

Hello, again. Thanks for all the disclosure on your tariff exposure right now and what it could become in this fluid type of environment. My question is, based on what is impacted by tariffs right now, that 14% bucket at a 16% tariff rate, is price the tool you will use to deal with this bucket or is this specific mix of products something you'll deal with by shifting supply chains? I'm just trying to get a... feel for how your pricing variable is going to manifest in the coming quarters based on, you know, what you know about elasticity and substitutes in these specific categories?

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Rob Brown
President and CEO

Yeah, I understand the question. Pricing is definitely the main lever to pull here. You know, we operate a price pass-through model, and while we're in a more unusual time as it relates to tariffs and, I guess, having to be more dynamic with pricing. That's how we intend to deal with that. We will obviously look at moving supply chains around where we need to, but we're not sole sourced. So we've got the ability to move our purchase order book around between jurisdictions if we have to. But I think the most salient point is the first one, which is if our sourcing costs go up, our intention is to pass that through and maintain our margin. Hey, Kyle, we had you break up on us. Would you mind repeating the question?

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Kyle McPhee
Analyst, Cormac Securities

Yeah, just on the 14% figure, I think that's percentage of product mix. Would it be much different on a percentage of revenue basis?

speaker
Rob Brown
President and CEO

No. No, consistent.

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Kyle McPhee
Analyst, Cormac Securities

Okay. Thank you. That's it for me.

speaker
Rob Brown
President and CEO

You bet.

speaker
Josh
Conference Operator

Okay. We have Zachary back from National Bank Financial. Zachary, again, I apologize for cutting you off. You could continue on.

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Zachary Evershed
Analyst, National Bank Financial

Thank you very much. For gross margin, are you expecting any pressure going forward as you run down stock of pre-tariff inventory or a temporary lift in the new pricing environment?

speaker
Rob Brown
President and CEO

I mean, it's an interesting comment to make. When you've got pricing move with shocks and being more dynamic, you can have intermediate impacts as you're passing prices through one way or the other. So there could be a little bit of noise, Zach, in gross profit margin, but nothing that we expect to be, you know, a significant item. We'll just be most focused on passing through costs and maintaining our role in channel as a distributor offering product solutions. but not trying to time markets and load inventory up or down, but provide those through on as smooth a basis as we can. But we feel like the current gross profit margin range that you've seen, it's within a range of sustainability.

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Zachary Evershed
Analyst, National Bank Financial

Perfectly clear. Thanks.

speaker
Rob Brown
President and CEO

I'll turn it over.

speaker
Josh
Conference Operator

Thanks. Next question is from Jonathan Goldman of Scotiabank. Go ahead.

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Jonathan Goldman
Analyst, Scotiabank

Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. Um, are you seeing any different trends? Uh, good morning. Yes. Even more good morning for you.

speaker
Rob Brown
President and CEO

Any difference in trends and consumer spending habits between Canada and the U S. Uh, I think we've all been fairly impressed by the continued resilience of the U S consumer. Uh, I spend lots of time obviously down South, uh, traveling and, um, Whenever I'm in country, if I could say it that way, just the level of optimism and let's work through things and solve problems. The entrepreneurial spirit is always impressive when you go to the U.S. I think Canada just naturally is maybe a little bit more cautious and prudent as we go. But as you saw from the quarterly result, Canada's performing very well for us. You know, that's probably how I would characterize the north-south as an opinion.

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Jonathan Goldman
Analyst, Scotiabank

Interesting. And, Rob, could you just clarify the cadence of daily sales that you saw from the quarter and into July? It seems like the first two weeks of July was the low, and it since improved even, you know, marginally, but still we had that bottom in the beginning of July. Is that correct way of thinking of things?

speaker
Rob Brown
President and CEO

I like your word marginally. First half, second half of the month of July, there was a marginal pickup there.

speaker
Jonathan Goldman
Analyst, Scotiabank

Perfect. I may have missed this, but you did upsize the potential tariff exposure at the current rates that you guys are estimating. Do you have any concerns about passing that through?

speaker
Rob Brown
President and CEO

No. That's the playbook. It's not like we are as a distributor sourcing or facing different sourcing conditions than our competitors are. So we'll see how the market behaves. But as we've seen in other periods of pricing volatility, there's generally been fairly good competitive discipline. So absent seeing something different, at that point we're expecting the same and that others will react accordingly.

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Jonathan Goldman
Analyst, Scotiabank

Okay, that's a really good color. Maybe just one more from me. Are you able to give an update on how Wolf performed in the quarter? Just looking at the results, it seems like they did significantly well. I know there's some seasonality in the business, but still looks like a nice uptick from Q3, Q4, Q1 into Q2.

speaker
Rob Brown
President and CEO

Yeah, your observations are bang on in both respects. It is a business that's got a decent amount of seasonality to it because of the premium decking products that are included in their product mix. But setting that aside, the team's done a great job. They're all still there, settled in as part of the Denture family, and we're very pleased with them. And I think they're very pleased with where they've landed the business as well. So we're pleased with how the acquisition is proceeding. We're I guess one just about a year into it and no surprises.

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Jonathan Goldman
Analyst, Scotiabank

No, it's definitely showing the results. Good work, guys. I'll get back in queue.

speaker
Josh
Conference Operator

Thanks, Jonathan. Next question is from Frederick Tremblay from Desjardins. Please go ahead.

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Frederick Tremblay
Analyst, Desjardins

Thank you. Good morning. Good morning. Most of my questions have been answered already, but maybe one on the sales dynamics. I'm just trying to reconcile the strong Q2 with your disclosure of a 4% decline on average daily sales in July. Do you feel that there was some demand pull forward in Q2 or nothing out of the ordinary to call out on that front?

speaker
Rob Brown
President and CEO

Nothing to call out. There's no factors that would indicate a pull forward with our customer base. And again, we're trying to help you all out with just a little bit of how things are proceeding post the quarter. And, you know, things can move around. We've got a ways to go yet, I guess would be my point with the quarter. But through July, that's where things were sitting relative to the pace we saw on average during Q2.

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Frederick Tremblay
Analyst, Desjardins

I appreciate the cover. Thank you.

speaker
Josh
Conference Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, as a reminder, should you have a question, please press the star button followed by the number one on your touchtone phone. You will hear a prompt that your hand has been raised. We'll wait one moment for any additional questions. It appears there are no further questions at this time. I'd now like to turn the call back over to Rob Brown, Adventurous President and CEO, for final closing comments.

speaker
Rob Brown
President and CEO

Okay. Thanks, Josh. Appreciate you hosting us today. And if there's any follow-ups from anyone on the call, please reach out to Fez or I. We'll be responsive to your questions. And I hope everybody has a great day.

speaker
Josh
Conference Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes your conference call for today. We thank you for participating and ask that you please disconnect your lines. Have a great day.

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