8/14/2025

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Conference Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you for standing by. This is the conference operator. Welcome to the first Majestic Silver 2025 Q2 Financial Results Conference Call. As a reminder, all participants are in listen-only mode and the conference is being recorded. After the presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To join the question queue, you may press star then 1 on your telephone keypad. If you are participating through the webcast, you can submit a question in writing by using the form in the lower section of the webcast frame on screen. Should you need assistance during the conference call, you may reach an operator by pressing star then zero. I would now like to turn the conference over to Mr. Keith Neumeier, President and Chief Executive Officer of Bruce Majestic Silver. Keith, please go ahead.

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Keith Neumeier
President and Chief Executive Officer

Thank you for that and welcome everyone. Glad you were able to join us this morning early. Thank you for joining us today to discuss our second quarter financial results and updated 2025 guidance. Our second quarter result news release, MD&A and financial statements were released earlier this morning and are posted on our website. Joining me in Vancouver for our call today are David Suarez, our chief financial officer, Steve Holmes, our chief operating officer, Samir Patel, the General Counsel and Corporate Secretary, Manny Al-Tabaji, VP Corporate Development and Investor Relations. We also have Del Ray and Joel Felton-Zinksy from our Investor Relations team. We will be prepared to remark or take questions after our presentation. Before we start, I'll ask Samir to read out the forward-looking statement disclaimer.

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Samir Patel
General Counsel and Corporate Secretary

Thank you. Before we begin today's call, I would like to remind you that we will be referring to certain non-IFRS measures and making certain statements regarding First Majestic Silver and its operations that constitute forward-looking statements in accordance with applicable Canadian and U.S. securities laws. All statements that are not historical facts, such as statements regarding future estimates and plans or expectations of future performance, constitute forward-looking statements that reflect the company's current views with respect to future events. These statements are necessarily based upon a number of assumptions and estimates that, while considered reasonable by the company, are inherently subject to significant business, economic, competitive, political, and social uncertainties and contingencies. We encourage you to refer to the cautionary language included in our news release that was disseminated earlier this morning and the disclosure on non-IFRS measures in our most recently filed Management Discussion and Analysis, as well as the risk factors set out in our most recently filed Annual Information Form. As a reminder, these documents, along with all of our continuous disclosure documents, are available on CDOT Plus and on EDCA. Investors are cautioned against attributing undue certainty or reliance on any forward-looking statements made during today's call, and the company does not intend or assume any obligation to update these forward-looking statements or information other than as required by law. With that, I will turn the call back to Keith.

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Keith Neumeier
President and Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Samir. I appreciate that. And before I get into the presentation, I just wanted to make a couple of Quick notes, you know, obviously a volatile day in the stock market. Silver, gold prices are, you know, having a down day today, which is unfortunate, but nevertheless, we've seen this constantly, and it's just the volatility in the market. But also, our stock is somewhat affected today by our news, such positive news, and I've been on record using the word record 27 times, and You know, maybe today I'll be breaking that record. We'll see. But there was some news that came out earlier, and I'm just looking at headlines. One headline said we missed our revenue by 30%. Well, the writer of that headline or that article actually didn't realize that we reported in Canadian dollars or U.S. dollars, pardon me, and they were using Canadian dollars. So I don't know how that happened, but nevertheless. So that headline is complete nonsense. Also, we saw Royer's announcement or headline that came out this morning that said we had a loss. And actually, we have a gain. So, again, we're contacting these news sources and are trying to correct them. So, it's just part of the business, unfortunately, we have to deal with. And I would suggest... Facts are super record quarter, best quarter ever in the company's history. Strong safety performance, which we're very proud of. Silver production, 3.7 million ounces, up 76%. And year over year. And we do have a presentation on screen. I don't know. There's a number of people that are hopefully watching it. I know some of you are dialing in and don't have access to the screen, but we do have a PowerPoint that we do have available that we are going through to follow my presentation. So we have silver equivalent production of 7.9 million ounces, 48% year-over-year. Record quarterly revenue, 268 million, up 94% year-over-year. Now, that's not too bad. We're in line with having a billion dollars in revenue for 2025. It's a pretty exciting place to be. Record EBITDA of $120 million. Submitted cash flows of about $150 million. Record cash position. And me as a CEO, I love looking at this number. I see it every Friday. And $510 million in the bank is not a too bad place to be for a company like ours. And that's growing. It should get better. It should continue to grow. Strong balance sheet, as I said, you know, we do have the convertible, of course, but, you know, some people look at that as debt, but, you know, quite honestly, I look at that as equity. We're paying dividends, as all of you know, 1% of revenue. So, as our revenue increases, our dividends also increase as a result of increased revenues. Our record spending on expiration. 255,000 meters are expected to be drilled this year. We have 28 rigs currently active, and that includes Jarrett Canyon. We just had our team down at Jarrett Canyon watching the drilling going on there, and it's looking quite exciting. There's a second rig arriving, I think, next week. So that's part of that 255,000 meters of drilling. That's a lot of drilling. The exploration success Navidad, Santa Nina, Santa Elena, they're just, you know, it's amazing, those two ore bodies. And we're just, internally, we're just putting together a bunch of work on the best way to get into those ore bodies, the best way to develop them, the quickest timelines, getting that ore into the mill, and the timelines around all that. So, we'll put that information out when we're ready to do that. First Mint is doing very well, very excited about that project and that's making money, which is good. You'll see on this slide, we remain, you know, really the purest silver company in the business. And, you know, you look at the numbers, you know, we're at 55% silver. Eklav, you know, catching up a little bit. They have a good quarter. After silver max with CORE, that 34%, and Pan American's, you know, falling a little bit behind, but has increased a little bit as a result of the MAG transaction, 24%. So, you know, out of the group, you know, this is the group that we measure ourselves against, and it's important to us to, you know, remain 50% silver or higher, and we've achieved that over the last couple of quarters. So moving along into our cost structures and our production, you'll see we had a great first half of the year. We're on track to hit our guidance between, you know, 31 and 32 million silver cobalt ounces for the year. We're seeing gatos continually deliver. which is great to see. It's been a great contributor to our portfolio. San Dimas is coming along nicely, which is good to see after some challenges. The last couple of quarters have been quite good. For San Dimas, costs have creeped up a little bit, as you can see on the slide. We're looking to see that hopefully come down over the next couple of quarters. But there is inflation in the system, and Q2, It tends to be a fairly big cash outdraw. You know, that's when you've got union bonuses, that's when you've got cash, tax payments as well. So there is, tends to be heavy spending Q2 just in the Mexican mining sector. That's just kind of normal. So that should revert, you know, over the next couple of quarters, we'll see as things evolve. We'll just move along here. Our guidance, well, this is, you know, information already that's gone out to the market, but you can see our guidance on costs. We're within guidance, as you can tell. And we're quite within production guidance as well. So everything's working, you know, as scheduled and on time and as expected. So when it comes to capital, We had a pretty aggressive first half, you know, getting these expiration programs going and getting the development done. We did front-end the budget slightly, and that was just to get things really kicked off. As a result of the strong production and revenues and profits in Q4 and Q1, we did expand some of our projects, and we did come out with a revised guidance earlier in July, as most of you probably have seen, and that has translated into higher underground development costs, higher exploration costs. But this is all world capital. It's all very nice to see, and it'll have big impacts on the business over the next couple of years. So, it's great to be in a position, a strong position, to be able to should be spent to grow the business over time. And we're happy to be able to do that. And on our cash flows, you can see by this slide, you know, very, very strong cash flows, record cash flows. I already used the word record again. I can't think how many times I've used the word record. I've got to use it more. Record cash flows, you know, we're very excited about that. And, you know, I go back to the Treasury day, you know, the Treasury's growing, and that's what I look like or what I look at, you know, as being a successful business. You know, you don't have to be going to the public markets to raise capital. You're actually generating cash, and that's a pretty good place to be. You know, talking about some of the things that we're doing on the CapEx side, I should go back and just address a couple of CapEx issues. We are looking at getting the Santa Elena up to 3,500 times a day. That's in process. We are working on getting Navidad and Santinino developed, which I kind of touched on, but we're getting pretty advanced on that. And I would look for news on both of those projects. And Gatos, getting it up to a consistent 4,000 tons per day. We're there, but consistently keeping it at those levels is one of our major goals. We're actually changing the haulage at Likantata. We've bought our own fleet, and we're going to be doing self-haulage. So we're going to see – we're hoping to see a little bump up in capex. because they have to buy the fleet, but it'll be a lower OpEx over the next couple of quarters as we start to do our own haulage there. So, going back to the cash flow slide, going back and forth here a little bit, but you can see for yourself, From cash flows, okay, we're going to go to our Waterfall EBITDA slide. And this just gives you an idea of, you know, what our budget is compared to, you know, what actually occurred. You know, obviously, the depletion and amortization is a big number. You know, I should probably pass this comment because we do get questions on this. I think I should probably divert this to David.

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David Suarez
Chief Financial Officer

Why don't you just cover this question? Hello, everyone. Just on slide 7 here, you know, we've got the waterfall that shows the difference between net earnings or what makes up the difference between net earnings and EBITDA. You can see there a large portion of that difference is really just depletion, depreciation, and amortization. And about 44 million or so, 44.6, relates to Cerebros Gatos and really the PPA, when we had to allocate the billion dollars that we paid for the asset to the asset. So it went from a value of a few hundred million dollars to a billion dollars. Obviously, that brings up the value and the depreciation as well. So we also had a strong production quarter across most of our sites. And that also contributed a little bit here as well. So really that non-cash item making up the big difference between net earnings and EBITDA. We had some financing costs, most of which were related to non-cash accretion. But we also had some interest in standby costs, which were about $3 million. And then we also had an income tax recovery impacting here as well, you know, mainly related to changes in the FX rate on our tax pools in Mexico. Anytime there's, you know, big changes from quarter to quarter in the Mexican peso versus the U.S. dollar, we get these, you know, fairly large adjustments on the tax side. So ending EBITDA for the quarter was $119.9 million.

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Keith Neumeier
President and Chief Executive Officer

Great. David, thanks. You could have explained that way better than I could have. I'm glad you took that on. Thank you. Okay, so going to the next slide, slide eight. Just some notable comments on the quarter. You know, I already covered some of this stuff already, you know, during my previous verbiage. But, you know, the bonuses, of course, is always June. And tax installments, of course, tend to be large. At this time of year, we did have some energy disruptions. There were some weather events in June, and, you know, water had to use extra diesel. That's in Davis and so on. And there was also integration costs that was gaseous, which were one kind of one-time cost. But you can see those details in the MD&A. They're all there, you know, laid out. So if you want to see further, you know, please have a look. And then, you know, you see the details on the tax payments and the dividend payments and so on on the slide. We did get upgraded by ISS, our ESG scores, which was pretty impressive. You know, this is a big initiative that the company launched a couple of years ago and our score just continually improves every year. I know many investors don't, you know, really pay a lot of attention to this kind of stuff. But we do have a group of investors and shareholders and institutions that really do care about these types of initiatives. And, you know, we do continually to try to improve that side of our business, which is something we take quite seriously and we're quite proud of it. So jumping to the next slide, slide nine, the GATOS integration. You know, it's been extremely challenging It's got to be one of our smoothest integrations in the 23-year history of the company. I guess that's probably to do with the fact that it's a new mine. It wasn't one of the old ancient mines that we bought in the past. We've had to go in and basically rebuild and take time and money to do that. But in this case, there's no capital required. we're actually even able to reduce the exploration programs a little bit just because, you know, they already have a 10-year life of mine. So, you know, you don't need this kind of type of capital. As long as we replace reserves that our resources that we're mining on an annual basis, you know, that's really the job of the exploration team. And they do that successfully. And we expect them to continue to do that going forward. The areas like safety, security, environment, health, people, everything's aligning. We're actually just implemented SAP. We've been using SAP within First Majestic for almost five years, I think. And getting that implemented, I guess, will take some time, and that was just launched last week, so it's really nice to see that. That's really going to give us an extra layer of controls. over that operation and it brings it into the whole supply chain and maintenance and so on. Matching all the guidelines and then policies and procedures within First Majestic. So we're happy to see that. Yeah, not missing any? Okay, let's move along here. So our financial strength, you know, hard to avoid talking about having $510 million in the bank. That's not a bad place to be. So that continually grows or hopefully will continually grow. There's no plans on spending that money anytime soon. We're going to continue with our current budget. Our current budget was released in July. For the balance of the year, there will be no changes to our guidance or our budget on our spend. We are looking at some interesting investments in 2026, but we'll discuss that at a later date when we get closer to January, when we put our guidance out for 2026. So, I think that's it for my presentation. This is the first time ever, and just so the listeners know, that we've actually done a PowerPoint presentation. We usually review these fairly informal But we tried to formalize it, and that's why we decided to create some slides, which we've shown you today. So, let's open up the call for questions.

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Conference Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you, Keith. We'll now proceed to the question and answer session. Once again, to join the question queue, you may press star then one on your telephone keypad. You'll hear a tone acknowledging your request. If you're using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing any keys. To withdraw your question, please press star then two. If you're participating today through the webcast, you can submit a question in writing by using the form in the lower section of the webcast frame on screen. Our first question is from Wayne Lamb with TD Securities. Please go ahead.

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Wayne Lamb
Analyst, TD Securities

Hey, thanks, guys. Morning, everyone. Yes, first question. Really nice to see the smooth integration of Gatos and, you know, really the operational improvements being made across the entire portfolio. Just wondering if you'd maybe help walk through some of the synergies that you've kind of outlined with the integration. And then can you provide maybe a bit more detail on the improvements needed to sustain the 4,000 tons per day there and what the timeline would be to achieving that?

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Keith Neumeier
President and Chief Executive Officer

Sure. Well, thanks, Wayne, for dialing in and listening today, and I appreciate your question. So, I'm going to pass your question on to our Chief Operating Officer, Steve Holmes.

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Steve Holmes
Chief Operating Officer

Right. So, yeah, thanks for the question. And so, we've got those, you know, we have a situation where the plant capacity is a bit higher than the mine, and that's been that way for quite a few years. So, what we're doing is we're accelerating the mining rates and the ramp development downward in Cerro Los Gatos to basically provide a more continuous supply of ore matched with the plant's capacity. And that'll take some time. But we put a plan together to execute on that. And so far, we've been pretty successful in doing that. So it's really about making sure the mine can support the capacity of the plant. And it's a matter of accelerating development, particularly in the ramp systems in the northwest zone, central zone, and even in the southeast deep zone, which is developing now, which is a big part of the future of the ramp.

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Keith Neumeier
President and Chief Executive Officer

Wayne, does that answer your question?

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Wayne Lamb
Analyst, TD Securities

Oh, yeah, I was also wondering, so that ties in with the synergies portion?

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Steve Holmes
Chief Operating Officer

Right. So, on the synergies, we've identified many synergies, some of which come from Gatos to First Majestic, and many of which come from First Majestic to Cerros Gatos. Some examples, Wayne, would be, for example, We've instituted, as part of First Majestic's operating practices, a really strong reconciliation process within Sierra Los Gatos that allows us to really measure what we actually achieve versus our plan. And we've seen some really significant opportunities to improve overbreak and reduce dilution in the deposit. So we're working on that. On the other side, we noted that Cerelos Gatos has a robust business improvement process that's based on lean principles that some of which we were applying within First Majestic, but they also have some really good processes that we're applying now through the First Majestic operations. So these synergies are two-way streets where we're drawing on the best that we can see in Gatos we're providing the best processes and technology that come from First Majestic into Gatos. So those are just two examples.

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Keith Neumeier
President and Chief Executive Officer

You mentioned a new contract that we're renegotiating on the exploration.

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Steve Holmes
Chief Operating Officer

Yeah, so, you know, Manny just brought up a point. We have a lot of different synergies. One of them, for example, is there are three different exploration contractors doing exploration work at Cerros Gatos. And We have a major contractor that does most of our work in Mexico that we're quite comfortable with that gives us very good rates on expiration work. And we've integrated that contractor now into Cerros Gatos and saw significant savings in expiration work that was being done. So, that's one example. Another one is we've looked at all the major consumable contracts like bulk oils and things of this nature. And we've been able to utilize some of our major suppliers to integrate into Cerro Los Gatos to give Cerro Los Gatos just lower costs overall. Bulk Oils is a good example. Some of the ground control supply was another good example as well.

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Wayne Lamb
Analyst, TD Securities

Okay, great. Yeah, sounds like quite a few opportunities there. Maybe at Santa Elena, you guys are also starting to delineate quite a few new discoveries. Just wondering if you could provide a bit more detail on the sequencing advancement of some of those new veins. Maybe some color on when Hermitano gets mined out. When does Santo Nino come in? Sounds like that's pretty advanced. And then does Navidad give you that bigger step change in tonnage, and how far out would that be?

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Keith Neumeier
President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, Wayne, some of that information is not yet public, and, you know, we put out news around Navidad and then Santo Nino in the winter. Three major discoveries, and, you know, I've mentioned to people that, you know, our geological team, you know, is suggesting that these discoveries are larger than Hermitanio. Time will tell. Our maiden discovery, our maiden resource was released in our AIF earlier in the year, and it was 30 million ounces at Navidad, which included, I think, did that include winter? and then Navidad, but the drilling is continuing. And then we discovered Santa Nina, which we have the resource around yet. Our whole focus is, you know, how quickly can we get these ore bodies into the mill? We're doing a bunch of engineering work. Steve's spending a ton of time right now with the team to try to figure out the best way to get into this and how to develop it, where to build the addis, where to build the tunnels. Once we have all that done, which hopefully will be by, you know, end of the year, maybe Q1, we will put out some guidance on that. So, you know, we'll be able to answer your question at that time.

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Wayne Lamb
Analyst, TD Securities

Okay, perfect. Yeah, sounds like a lot to come and excited to hear about those new opportunities. Thanks for taking my questions. Yeah, thanks, Wayne.

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Conference Operator
Conference Operator

Once again, if you have a question, please press star then one. Meanwhile, I'll pass the floor over to Mr. Dale Ray, Investor Relations at First Majestic Silver, to take us through questions submitted from the webcast.

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Dale Ray
Investor Relations at First Majestic Silver

Thank you. Hi. So, okay, yeah, we'll take a couple from the webcast, Gaylene. This one is likely directed towards David. David, what is your total debt outstanding? What was paid in the last quarter in interest, and what are you expecting to pay in 2025 or 2026?

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David Suarez
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, just to answer that question, what was paid in the last quarter is about $3 million. It's included in the financing statement. bucket of the EBIT to EBITDA slide. It's part of that $7 or so million. We're not looking at changing or increasing our debt levels at First Majestic, even though our balance sheet is very strong. And if we had a use for that debt or a project, then we could look at it. But as Keith said, right now, our cash balance is super strong and it's increasing. And we've got you know, internal projects lining up for which will, you know, probably disclose once they're further developed, the ideas around those are further developed in early 2026. So for now, you know, we've got our converts outstanding. We're happy with that level of debt. And at the right time, you know, we'll see what we do with that.

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Keith Neumeier
President and Chief Executive Officer

And just a comment about debt. I know the analysts out there look at convertibles as debt, but I don't. I look at convertibles as equity. They're convertible into equity, therefore I call it equity. But that $230 million is basically the majority of the company's debt, which is convertible.

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David Suarez
Chief Financial Officer

Super low carrying costs on those and also... You know, if we were to think about, you know, renewing that or what other options we have, you know, the rates right now are super attractive as well.

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Keith Neumeier
President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, and the rate on that $230 million, for those who aren't aware, is 0.375%. The lowest coupon done in the history of mining companies.

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Gaylene
Webcast Coordinator

Anything else?

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Dale Ray
Investor Relations at First Majestic Silver

Okay. Yeah. And another question probably for you, Keith. Is first mint up to full capacity? And if not, when is this likely to happen?

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Keith Neumeier
President and Chief Executive Officer

No, it's not. And full capacity is measured by basically man hours and shifts. The equipment could produce more than it's currently producing, but it's limited. and double current capacity if need be. The budget is to do 100,000 ounces a month. They're slightly behind that. The goal is to get up to 10% of the company's production through the mint. We're currently just shy of 6%, so it's not too bad after one year of production. This is a startup business. It's brand new. You know, there's competition out there that we're dealing with. But, you know, it's a profit center. We're making money, and we're trying to grow it. And as I said, we're trying to give it up to 10% of the production of the global production company.

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Dale Ray
Investor Relations at First Majestic Silver

Okay, that's great. Gaylene, any more on your end?

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Conference Operator
Conference Operator

We have no further analysts in the queue.

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Dale Ray
Investor Relations at First Majestic Silver

Okay. And that's the final question from the webcast.

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Conference Operator
Conference Operator

All right. And I'd like to hand the call back over to Keith for any closing remarks.

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Keith Neumeier
President and Chief Executive Officer

Well, thanks, everyone, for joining in today. And I'm sure there'll be many people that'll be listening to this online, you know, after the live presentation. I would ask that you do look at the news release, read through it. If you have further questions, please contact the company. go to info at firstmanchef.com or just dial us in and ask for either Dale or Daryl or Joel. They'll be happy to answer any of your further questions. Thanks again and have a great day.

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Conference Operator
Conference Operator

This brings today's conference call to a close. You may now disconnect your lines. Thank you for participating and have a pleasant day.

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