5/14/2025

speaker
Sylvie
Conference Operator

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Altius Minerals Q1 2025 Financial Results Conference Call. At this time, note that all phone participants are in a listen-only mode. Following the presentation, we will conduct a question and answer session. And if at any time during this call you require immediate assistance, please press star zero for the operator. Also note that this call is being recorded today, Wednesday, May 14, 2025. And I would like to turn the conference over to Flora Wood. Please go ahead.

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Flora Wood
Director of Investor Relations

Thank you, Sylvie. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to our Q1 2025 conference call. Our press release and quarterly filings came out yesterday after the close and are available on our website. This event is being webcast live, and you'll be able to access a replay of the call along with the presentation slides on both the homepage and on the investor page. at altiusminerals.com. I'll also point out that we have a more extensive presentation in a couple hours for our annual general meeting. You'll also see that on our website, and it has an open conference call for live questions. Brian Dalton, CEO, and Ben Lewis, CFO, will both be speakers on this call. The forward-looking statement on slide two applies to everything we say, both in our formal remarks and during the Q&A. And with that, I'll turn over to Ben.

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Ben Lewis
Chief Financial Officer

Thank you, Flora. And good morning, everyone. Royalty revenue for Q1 2025 is $15 million compared to $15.4 million in Q1 2024. Adjusted EBITDA for the three months ended March 31st, 2025 is $9.5 million compared to $10.9 million in the prior year quarter. In the current quarter, both revenue and adjusted EBITDA reflected higher base metal prices and copper deliveries from Chapada, higher dividends from iron ore, as well as the growth of the renewable royalty portfolio when excluding non-recurring items from Q1 of last year, offset by lower potash volumes. Q1 2025 adjusted operating cash flow of 4.1 million compares to 4.0 million in Q1 last year. The slight increase reflects lower interest costs offset by lower royalty revenue receipts and higher tax payments, as well as some working capital changes. Net earnings for the first quarter of $6.3 million, or $0.13 per share, compares to net earnings of $4.8 million, or $0.10 per share, in Q1 2024. The increase reflects lower amortization and G&A, partially offset by lower revenues and higher cost of sales, as well as the tax recovery. Q1 adjusted net earnings of $0.05 per share is lower than the first quarter of 2024, with the main adjustment items being unrealized loss on derivatives and $4.3 million in tax recovery relating to recognition of certain tax losses. I'll now turn to capital allocation and liquidity. During the quarter, we made scheduled debt repayments of $2.0 million, paid total cash dividends of $3.8 million, and issued 12,638 common shares valued at approximately $319,000 under the corporation's dividend reinvestment plan. The corporation repurchased and canceled 2,000 shares under its normal course issuer bid for a total cost of $52,000 during the quarter. The Board of Directors also approved a $0.09 quarterly dividend that will be paid to shareholders of record on May 30, 2025, with a payment date of June 16, 2025. At March 31st, our current liquidity consisted of $12.1 million in cash, as well as $116 million in unused revolver room. In addition, the corporation's agreement with Northampton provides access to additional liquidity to fund renewable energy investments and grow the renewable segment. of the business through ARR. At March 31st, 2025, ARR had cash of 31.7 million, that's U.S. dollars. The GBR joint venture in turn had cash of 40.8 million U.S. dollars and available liquidity of 85 million under its credit facilities. And with that, I'll turn it over to Brian to discuss the quarter's significant highlights.

speaker
Brian Dalton
Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Ben and Flora. Thanks, everyone, for being with us today. Apologies, I have a little bit of a cold if I sound a little nasally. Our first quarter was an eventful one, marked perhaps most prominently by the announcement of a proposed acquisition of Origin Royalties, a triple-plagged precious metals, that is motivated by Origin's 1% NSR in the new world-class silicon and merlin discoveries in Nevada. We will come back to this and the implications for our own 1.5% NSR royalty over these deposits at the end of my remarks, following review of our other assets and commodity exposures. Reports from the operators of our potash royalty mines are indicating that the market is currently quite firm, strong demand in all growing regions, leading to a tight supply and demand backdrop that has resulted in a 10% to 20% strengthening of prices across various markets so far this year. Each operator also continues to note their relatively unique ability to provide incremental volume to the market as it allows, given their extensive resources and well-developed mine and logistics infrastructure advantages. In particular, Mosaic has signaled a plan to commission a processing upgrade later this year that will add approximately 400,000 tons from Esterhazy to further cement its lead as the world's largest potash mine. In iron ore, we have again seen a significant capital investment commitment from Rio Tinto IOC, as it continues its multi-year program of modernizing and upgrading its infrastructure in Labrador West. It also continues to emphasize the importance of the asset within its broader iron ore portfolio, given its rare ability to serve the growing EAF-based steelmaking market and to be used as an upgrading blend stock for its lower-priority products coming from Australia. Champion and its new Japanese partners, Nippon Steel and Sojitz, also continue to advance the CAMI project along several fronts, including detailed engineering in support of the ongoing feasibility study, environmental permitting, Aboriginal and other stakeholder agreements, and discussions around potential government supports related to the designation of CAMI's expected high-quality product under critical minerals frameworks. We also further advance our own study work on our portion of the Julian Lake iron ore deposit to determine its metallurgical suitability for concentration to DR-grade purity levels. Turning to base metals, we highlight recent comments from Valet concerning positive progress with respect to the ramp-ups of the Reedbrook and Eastern Deeps nickel-copper-cobalt mines at Boise's Bay, with expectations for higher production volumes as the year progresses. Lundeen has reported on the continuing advancement of resource definition and development analysis of the recently discovered Tahuba deposit, located just to the north of the Chapada main deposits. It also confirmed annual copper production guidance at Chapada, while signaling a back-half-weighted production profile. Silver Corp. provided an updated capital plan and construction schedule for the Curripamba polymetallic mine development that indicates the commencement of production late next year. With respect to our Argentinian lithium royalties, Gangfang announced the commissioning of the Mariana project during the quarter. The first royalty cash flow is expected late this year. While Visions' Trey Cabrada is reported to be on track for first production from its phase one in the third quarter of this year, while phase two construction also continues to advance. At Sigma's Grota de Cirilo lithium project in Brazil, phase two construction is also advancing. Pardon me. but initial production expected by year-end can ramp up to full capacity to occur during 2026. Altius Renewable Royalties, through its 50% JV interest in Great Bay Renewables, or GBR, continues to ramp up its exposure to cash-flowing projects and to find innovative ways to capitalize on the interconnection bottleneck, supply chain challenges, and negative investment sentiment of competing forms of capital that has strained the sector over the past couple of years. These challenges stand in stark contrast to the fundamental increase in new power generation demand and higher contracted power prices that currently is characterizing the U.S. market. TBR has several royalty projects that are in construction related to earlier development investments, with TGE Enbridge particularly active in taking advantage of its advanced project pipeline and early procurement foresight. Another significant development during the quarter was the announcement that NOVA, in which ARR is a significant seed-level equity investor and holds royalty entitlements to 2 gigawatts of its project portfolio, has attracted an up to $175 million investment from TransAlta. The look-through valuation to NOVA from the equity convertible component of this investment is several multiples higher than that of the level that GBR invested at. Perhaps more importantly, however, this investment provides Nova with meaningful capital to advance its projects and therefore accelerate the pace of our realization on royalties, while TransAlta gains priority access to acquire and build these projects and to become our ultimate royalty counterparty. Also, the GBR team has successfully designed a new market offering that provides developers and operators with a source of capital support the funding of the refundable portion of interconnection deposits and to avoid tying up other sources of capital that can be more productively used for advancing projects on the ground. To fund this initiative, GBR has secured a $100 million debt-based funding package and is currently quite active in deploying the proceeds. As part of the provision of this funding, GBR earns a positive spread versus its cost of capital while also retaining full control of the refundability of the deposits. while building new relationships that I believe will ultimately lead to royalty conversion and investment opportunities. Now let me come back to the Origin transaction and our Silicon Royalty. Triple Flag has proposed to acquire Origin at an implied price of $2 a share, including the value of a spin-out vehicle that current Origin shareholders will continue to own. Many of you will be aware that we had accumulated approximately 20% shareholding in Origin over the past number of years, particularly so since we formed a quite bullish technical view concerning the value of its 1% NSR royalty that covers the Anglo Gold, Ashanti, Silicon, and Merlin Gold deposit discoveries in Nevada. Our cost in purchasing our position in Origin is $14 million, meaning that its implied value at the triple flag proposed purchase price is $79 million. A further element of the Origin Triple Flag acquisition proposal is the look-through value it implies for the separate 1.5% NSR royalty that Altius directly holds over the adjacent, not ultimately connected, Silicon and Merlin discoveries. While there are certain differences in the structure and extent of the two royalty interests, we do believe that a high-level assumption of 1.5 times the look-through value of Origin's royalty, or more than $500 million Canadian, is a reasonable proxy for the current market value of our royalties. given our understanding that Origin ran a fulsome process to test the current value. This compares to an average analyst value estimate for our royalty interest of $220 million immediately prior to the announcement, for an implied delta of $637 for all few shares. We believe that the explanation for such a wide delta rests in the belief in the full scale and remaining potential of the discoveries that exist among those of us who have studied the projects in more in-depth technical detail versus those relying solely on the current stage of regulatory reporting that the operator has been able to provide thus far. We have published a presentation to our website that further illustrates the potential that we see. This is emerging as a truly special discovery, and if you don't want to take my word for it, consider this quote, from Anglo Gold in their Q1 investor call last week. CEO Calderon said, we're more confident than ever that this will be a magnificent tier one asset over the very long term in the world's top mining jurisdiction. We also continued to progress to the final stages of concluding the arbitration process to determine the full extent of the lands, of the current lands that Anglo Gold holds in the region that are subject to our royalties. To this end, each of Altius and Anglo Gold have reviewed the partial award provided by the tribunal and found good agreement between us as to many of the areas that are included and excluded. This confirms that the full current known extent of the silicon deposit and the vast majority of the Merlin deposit are subject to the royalty, as well as the extensions to the key geological structures and lithologies that we believe offer the most promise for further deposit expansions. Certain more peripheral land areas remain subject to determination by the Tribunal, with Altius now having made all of its requested submissions, and we await a final decision. Finally, we have now completed our own process that invited bids for our royalty interests, and that generated significant interest, primarily from precious metals-focused royalty companies. A wide range of values and structures were received as part of this process, and we are currently evaluating these against our own current assessments of value and longer-term optionality. We expect to be in a position to make a decision on how we feel we can best serve our shareholders with respect to this asset in the current quarter. I'll end by saying that this is obviously a very exciting time for our shareholders and our business across multiple fronts, and we look forward to providing you with more updates over the coming quarters. With that, I'll turn it over to questions. Thank you.

speaker
Sylvie
Conference Operator

Thank you, sir. Ladies and gentlemen, if you do have any questions, please press star followed by one on your touchtone phone. You will hear a prompt that your hand has been raised. And should you wish to decline from the polling process, please press star followed by two. And if using a speakerphone, you will need to lift the handset first before pressing any keys. Please go ahead and press star one now if you do have any questions. First question will be from Carrie McCreary at Canaccord Genuity. Please go ahead, Carrie.

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Carrie McCreary
Analyst, Canaccord Genuity

Good morning, Brian. Just on the Silicon Origin transaction, has the outcome of that, has that changed your thinking about how you want to move forward? I know you're looking at asset swaps and other vehicles, but just wondering if you can give us some color on sort of, again, does that change your thinking at all, that transaction?

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Brian Dalton
Chief Executive Officer

No, I don't think so. It obviously provides another data point as to what the potential market value of the asset is. And then there's also some look through in terms of how, you know, Triple Flag views the asset. And, you know, I think it coincides well with what the rest of the potential bar universe looks like. But really our job now is to make an assessment as to what we think the royalty is work to an obvious shareholder and what could be working within our business structure and relative to our typical trading multiples versus how it might look in others and to make a call as to how we best optimize value for our shareholders, whether it's as a whole or to pursue some type of transaction. Give us a little bit of time to digest the proposals that we have in hand here and we'll definitely update the market soon.

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Carrie McCreary
Analyst, Canaccord Genuity

Okay, great. And then I think you mentioned you expect around $34 million in cash potentially from your equity interest and origin. Any use of proceeds there? Would you be thinking about buying back stock or would that be paying down debt or any color there?

speaker
Brian Dalton
Chief Executive Officer

Terry, you know I'm always thinking about buying back stock, so that's certainly part of the picture. But, you know, again, we have the process for our own royalty. to consider right now. So there's lots of ideas that we have around capital allocation generally, but I don't think much has changed there. You know, it's a nice little boost of liquidity from the origin transaction, but there's lots of things that are kind of interesting out there right now.

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Carrie McCreary
Analyst, Canaccord Genuity

Okay. Appreciate that. Thanks, Brian.

speaker
Sylvie
Conference Operator

Thank you. And a reminder, ladies and gentlemen, to please press star one. Should you have any questions? Next will be Brian MacArthur at Raymond James. Please go ahead, Brian.

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Brian MacArthur
Analyst, Raymond James

Good morning and thank you for taking my question. So just following up on Kerry, it's about the $33 million in cash. Have you basically assumed you're going to elect like the 50%, you know, the cash slash stock component? I mean, you're not thinking of taking all stock or is that actually required by you to do it that way?

speaker
Brian Dalton
Chief Executive Officer

No, we have no restrictions that way. So I think, you know, as a starting assumption, we'll kind of see what the other shareholders are doing, but we're kind of running with the idea that we'd make the 50-50 election right now.

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Brian MacArthur
Analyst, Raymond James

Great. Thanks. And just, again, back to the, what I'll call the additional option value outside the current 1.5% royalty, all the lands that are still being worked through. You basically said you've filed everything. but you feel comfortable enough that you could go ahead and if you decide to monetize part of or all of that royalty some other way, that you could get value for the unknown checkerboard or would you wait until that whole thing is totally resolved?

speaker
Brian Dalton
Chief Executive Officer

I think what's important is that, you know, I said in my remarks, there's really good agreement now between Anglo and Altius on what is included and what's not included from the Barlow Ward. And that does cover the heart of the project right now and all of the known deposits. So the things that are a little bit still up in the air are much more peripheral, further out within the potential district. But I would have to say that I think the vast bulk of the value has been confirmed and it's certainly enough to work with. I think that will be, you know, if we, if we do choose a buying, choose to sell the asset, the closing and how that might look would be something we'd have to discuss with a potential buyer as to how much confirmation, how much value there, you know, they might be assigning to that periphery. But, you know, for all intents and purposes, again, I think the, The vast bulk of the value, as it can be seen today anyway, is already quite clear.

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Brian MacArthur
Analyst, Raymond James

Great. Thanks very much, Brian, for answering my questions.

speaker
Brian Dalton
Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Brian.

speaker
Sylvie
Conference Operator

And at this time, Ms. Wood, it appears we have no further questions registered. You may proceed.

speaker
Flora Wood
Director of Investor Relations

Thank you, Sylvie. Thank you, Carrie and Brian, for the questions. And just to sign off, I'll say that our AGM starts in an hour and a half, roughly, two hours. And we'll look forward to any of you who can join the webcast and conference call for that.

speaker
Sylvie
Conference Operator

Thank you.

speaker
Brian Dalton
Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, everybody.

speaker
Sylvie
Conference Operator

Thank you, sir. Ladies and gentlemen, this does indeed conclude your conference call for today. Once again, thank you for attending. And at this time, we do ask that you please disconnect your lines. Enjoy the rest of your day.

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