3/9/2023

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Operator

Thank you for standing by. This is the conference operator. Welcome to the Airbus of America fourth quarter conference call. As a reminder, all participants are in listen-only mode and the conference is being recorded. After the presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To join the question queue, you may press star then 1 on your telephone keypad. Should you need assistance during the conference call, you may signal an operator by pressing star then 0. I would now like to hand the conference over to Grand Schock, Chief Executive Officer. Please go ahead.

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spk06

Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us for the Airbus fourth quarter and year-end 2022 results conference call. I'm Grand Schock, and I'm the Chairman and CEO of Airbus. With me here today are Chris Fitzsikakis, President and COO, Frank Gentile, our CFO, and Chris Fegel, our EVP and General Counsel. Our agenda today will start with a review of the operational highlights for the quarter and year, followed by a discussion of our financial results before we open the conference lines to questions. Before we begin, I will remind listeners that our remarks today contain forward-looking statements. including our estimates of future developments. We invite listeners to review risk factors related to our business in the most recent annual information forum and annual NDNA, both of which are available on CDAR and our corporate website. Also, we will discuss certain non-GAAP measures, including EBITDA. Reconciliations of these measures are available in the earnings release. And finally, please note that our reporting currency is U.S. dollars. References today will be in US dollars unless we indicate otherwise. With that, I'll now turn the call over to Chris for the operational review.

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Grand Schock

Thank you, Guy, and good morning, everyone. On the heels of a record year of financial performance and corporate growth in 2021, our focus in 2022 was one of execution and integration from our newly expanded operating platform. Many of the challenges we faced throughout the business in 2021, including raw material sourcing and cost inflation, continued into 2022, and these conditions made the work we do to pursue production and cost efficiencies throughout each of our businesses that much more important to our success. Our consolidated decline in sales in 2022 was mainly due to the reduced revenues within our Airbus defense group due to the decrease in large-scale deliveries of PPE in 2022. These declines were partially offset by record results within Airbus rubber solutions and by a return to gross margin contributions from Airbus and Clear products in the fourth quarter. We were up against a fairly challenging set of financial comparables from 2021, and although our financial results in 2022 did not match this record performance, we're very pleased we've made meaningful advancements across many parts of our business. Within the latter part of 2022, our Airbus Defense Group announced that it successfully secured a series of new contracts that demonstrate the diverse array of technologies it provides to its customers. The most recent is an agreement we announced in late December, which ADG will be supporting delivery of Made in America COVID testing kits to the Defense Logistics Agency in the U.S. These kits will become a strategic part of the U.S. military's ability to effectively respond to any future national emergencies. Our newly strengthened U.S.-based manufacturing capabilities supported our success during this competitive bid process. The first half of contract deliveries are expected to be completed by the end of Q2 this year, and we'll be monitoring the status of the remaining half of the deliveries against this agreement after that. Earlier in Q4, we also announced 40 million of contracts to manufacture and supply a total of 13 Husky 2G vehicles to two separate customers. These counter-improvised explosive device, or CIED, vehicles are equipped with industry-recognized route clearance and threat detection systems, which are a key part of ADG's suite of survivability solutions. We expect to fulfill the majority of this contract within 2023. We view these contract wins as tangible evidence that we have the technology, the production capabilities, and the execution strength we need to maintain a role as a key supplier to large-scale customers, including the U.S. military as well as others. These awards also demonstrate the importance of partnerships in strengthening our technology offerings and market access. Looking at our M&A activities, our operations teams were focused on the seamless integration of our two most recent acquisitions, Black Box Biometrics, or B3, and Ace Elastomer. These acquisitions were completed in mid-2021, and while they were added to separate business segments, they shared common benefits through their addition of valuable new capabilities and skills to our platform of technology solutions. ACE has added significant value to our Airbus rubber solutions business segment, advancing us into a lead role in the color and specialty rubber compounding space. Our rubber compounding capabilities are now stronger, we've expanded our geographic reach into key markets in the U.S., and the new skills and talent we added to our team have been a significant benefit to us. As we've integrated B3, we've seen similar benefits. The B3 team has brought valuable engineering and technical bench strength, along with access to portfolio products focused on noise and impact detection and monitoring, which are now an important part of the survivability solutions we offer within our Airbus Defense Group, or ADG. For ADG, we remain optimistic about our positioning to win new sales opportunities. In 2022, we worked with potential customers on field testing of new products like our Airbus 100 half-mask respirator, which is a more cost-effective and portable alternative to other products available on the market. Customer testing also took place for our blast gauge system, which was developed to monitor impulse noise and concussive impacts in military. In fact, our first major competition for blast gauge concluded with the final prototype submissions in late Q4. These technologies, along with others within ADG, diversify the survivability solutions we can provide and significantly expand the market opportunity for this business. Within our Airbus rubber solutions business, or ARS, following a very challenging year 2021, the investments we made to improve automation and efficiency and expand the array of compounds and colors we can supply to our customers led to record financial contributions from ARS in 2022. ARS delivered record revenue in gross margins supported by our expanded production capacity, new compounding expertise, and access to new regional markets. One of the net results of the tough market conditions in 2021 and last year was that the ARS team had to double down on plans to diversify supply lines, broaden its production base, and capture new market share. I'm really pleased to say that the team within ARS successfully adapted and evolved as their business and the markets changed and we're well positioned to carry these capabilities into the coming year. Our longer-term priorities for ARS remain intact. to deliver growth by positioning ARS as a leading specialty supplier in North America, one with a valuable portfolio of specialty compounds combined with strong production capabilities. And although we saw a pullback in tolling volumes late in Q4, we continue to execute on multiple non-tolling opportunities to strive to offset any volume fluctuations from our current customer base. Turning now to Airbus engineered products, or AEP, having faced multiple challenges in 2021 and 22, we're hopeful that we have taken the right steps to improve the financial performance of this division. AEP experienced acute problems from rapidly escalating raw material prices, supply chain disruptions, and specific issues to the global shortages of computer chips needed by the auto OEMs. Similar to our ARS business, our team within AEP had to strengthen its operations through automation. The team within AEP accelerated efforts to reduce operating expenses, develop more innovative higher margin products, and diversify its customer reach into new non-automotive industries. The changes made within AEP have improved the positioning and resilience of this business. As we exited 2022, we were clear in our commitment to working with AEP's key partners and customers to resume a more stable financial footing for its continued operation. We've built strong long-term relationships and we remain confident that we could work together to find a way to address the rapid rising costs related to personnel, logistics and raw materials and have contract pricing and terms that better accommodated these changes. Although it's been a challenging process, I'm excited to say that we have successfully updated our arrangements with our key partners to strengthen the financial condition of AEP. As a result, we were able to reverse the pattern of operating losses we posted through 2022 and deliver profitable performance in Q4. Although we still have multiple opportunities for continuous improvement, we're optimistic about ADP's performance as we move forward into 2023. Through 2022, we were encouraged to see some of the supply chain and logistics challenges start to dissipate, and this has helped us get back to the point where we could serve customer needs in a more normalized way. With this being said, throughout each of our business segments. In the closing part of 2022 and the start of 2023, we've begun to see some signs of slowing business activity as the industrial base has undertaken some limited inventory reduction as projections of a potential economic slowdown this year vary from expert to expert. As in many industries, some purchases along our supply chain are being affected by the need to work down inventory levels and business purchasing and investment is being impacted by rising interest rates in uncertainty and economic conditions in the case of ars our productivity is run at high levels in 2022 so a downturn a downturn in demand could potentially affect its results For AEP, I'd point out that our ability to profitably operate was being significantly hindered by a misalignment between rising production costs and the selling prices we could secure from customers. As I mentioned earlier, we have again resumed stable footing for AEP, and we continue to see opportunity to increase the contributions it can make to our financial results in the coming year. Our focus in 2022 was on integration and execution of our business strategy from our expanded platform. On the M&A front, we continue to monitor potential acquisitions with a focus on adding products or compounds, advancing our technical capabilities, and expanding our geographic reach. As it relates to our outlook, for the reasons I've outlined, we are in a solid position across each of our businesses from a product, production, and execution perspective. Our aim is to continue leveraging our core expertise to expand our market share, support our business investments with strong financial discipline, and maintaining our focus on cost-effective strategic M&A.

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Guy

With that, I will now pass the call over to Frank for the financial review. Thanks, Chris, and good morning, everyone. As a reminder, all dollar amounts presented are in U.S. dollars, except for dividends per share, which are in Canadian dollars. Percentage changes compare Q4 2022 to Q4 of 2021, unless otherwise noted. Starting from the top line, compared to Q4 2021, external net sales decreased 53% to just over 117 million on a consolidated basis, with a strong increase in Airbus rubber solutions and Airbus engineered products more than offset by decreased sales from the Airbus defense group during the quarter. Consolidated gross profit decreased to $24.8 million, which is at 21.1%, slightly ahead of Q4 2021 gross margin contribution of 20.7%, despite reduced sales levels in Q4 of this year. Q4 adjusted EBITDA decreased to $13.9 million, impacted primarily by lower sales and slightly higher general and administrative costs as a percentage of sales. Adjusted profit was $12.3 million, or $0.45 per diluted share, compared to $15.5 million, or $0.55 per diluted share, in Q4 of 2021. Turning now to our individual segments, ADGs net sales decreased 89% to $19.8 million, with the decrease primarily due to the deliveries of HHS nitrile patient examination gloves in the prior year. Gross profit at ADG decreased to $2.9 million, with the decrease primarily driven by the large orders delivered to HHS in 2021, as previously mentioned. Net sales at Airbus Rubber Solutions increased 9.8% to $57.8 million, driven primarily by favorable pricing and product mix across end markets. Both tolling and, to a lesser extent, non-tolling volumes declined in Q4. Gross profit at ARS increased by 18% to $6.9 million due to product mix and higher proportion of non-tolling volumes compared to Q4 of 21, partially offset by lower sales volume. Net sales in the engineered product segment increased by 65% to $46.7 million due to increased volume across several automotive product lines and improved arrangements with key suppliers and customers recognized in the quarter. Gross profit at EEP increased by $17.2 million to $14.9 million. The increase was due to price, product mix and volume in the automotive sector. The impacts of our efforts to contain operating costs, manage overheads and improve the arrangements with key suppliers and customers recognized in Q4. Free cash flow for the quarter was an inflow of $4.7 million with profitability supporting an investment in working capital and capital assets. capex was 3.2 million in q4 and 10.2 million in 2022. we continue to focus on maintaining sufficient liquidity to fund the growth of our business our revolving credit facility availability is 250 million with an accordion of 75 million approximately 131 million was drawn at the end of q4 as at the end of the quarter we had net debt of 110 million for a net leverage ratio of 2.43 times adjusted EBITDA With that, I will now turn the call over to Chris Bitsakakis. Chris?

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Grand Schock

Thank you, Frank. Operator, at this point, we can open up the line for Q&A.

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Operator

Certainly. We'll now begin the question and answer session. To join the question queue, you may press star, then 1 on your telephone keypad. You'll hear a tone acknowledging your request. If you're using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before you press any keys. If you wish to withdraw your question, please press star then two. Our first question is from Kim James with TD Securities. Please go ahead.

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Kim James

Thank you. Good morning, everyone. Thanks for your time. My first question, just the nitrile gloves, the ones that you've taken the write-down on, I'm just wondering if you could comment on sort of the outlook or any opportunities you have for selling the excess gloves at this point or if there's still, I assume there's still a possible sale item for you.

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Grand Schock

Yeah, Tim. We have multiple opportunities that we're looking at to sell the remaining inventory of those nitrile gloves. We've been kind of selective as we're seeing the glove market start to rebound a little bit, but certainly we have the team fully focused on finding a way to sell those gloves.

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Kim James

Okay. Turning to rubber solutions segment and the volume weakness that you've commented on here in the fourth quarter, do you get the sense that that is customers that were overordering kind of earlier in the year, or is this really more just due to economic conditions that sort of started creeping in later in the year and therefore it's just kind of the normal process of what occurs when, you know, your industrial customers start feeling, you know, lower demand.

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Grand Schock

Yeah, that's a really good question. It's kind of normal to see a slowdown in demand the last two weeks of December, because as people go into year-end, they don't want to carry too much inventory, and a lot of our customers will be doing inventories and and closing their annual books and that sort of thing. So it's not that unusual to see a slowdown in December. This one was a little bit larger than normal as we saw some of the tolling volumes particularly get pulled back into the tire companies, which would indicate that they had some open capacity. So from that perspective, you could interpret that any way you want. We saw some of that softness continue into January. However, February, we saw it start to rebound and March better than February. So the team at ARS, feels pretty comfortable with some of the additional market share opportunities that we've been working on, that we should be able to offset this drop in volume. However, a lot of it is predicated on whether we do see a recession this year or not, which, as I mentioned in my comments, they kind of vary from expert to expert. One day you hear people say there will be a recession, and one day you hear they won't. But normally, you can see the tire companies are a good leading indicator. However, at this moment in time, we're seeing, at least on our end, some rebound in that drop from December, January. And I guess the rest is going to be up to the overall health of the economy.

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Kim James

So as you look at the full year 2023, and I don't know if you can kind of give us a sense for this, but You know, will volume year over year for the full year clearly be negative, clearly be positive, or could it be either as you look at 2023 based on the trends that you've seen to this point?

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Grand Schock

Well, my team at ARS is still optimistic that they can still hit their plan for this year, despite the softness at the end of December and Q1, or January, anyway, February. So from that perspective, they seem like pretty confident they can still make it work. And, you know, we never plan to go backwards in growth. We haven't done that in years. We've had double-digit compounded annual growth for many years at ARS. And so we have a really strong team there. They continue to go after non-tolling opportunities that will allow us to gain market share, and we're feeling pretty good about that. But again, this is what we know today. If we see a major slowdown in the economy, then that will be something that we can't forecast right now. But right now, at this moment, my team at Airhouse is pretty optimistic that the year will still be intact in terms of their production plan. Okay, that's really helpful.

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Kim James

What about, is it possible to give us a sense for what, approximately what portion of your current volume is coming from customers that also do the mixing in-house. And I'm trying to get a sense for, is there much more volume that might be at risk of customers pulling that in-house? Or do those that typically do it, have they already kind of exercised that initiative in the fourth quarter? Maybe it sounds like in January. Or is there more risk of that, I guess, is what I'm trying to get at.

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Grand Schock

Yeah, although it's not a perfectly defined line, I can tell you that the majority of people that do it in-house are normally captured under our tolling volume. And so we don't expect on the non-tolling side, the majority of our customers, the vast majority of our customers do not have their own internal mixing.

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Kim James

Okay. And so the remaining tolling volume that you are doing now, could some of that be at risk of being pulled in-house? I guess maybe that's the way I could ask the question.

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Grand Schock

Well, in fact, we actually saw a bit of a rebound in that tolling volume in February. So it's kind of hard to say. So it looks like a big portion of the drop was really this sort of inventory reduction phase and kind of wait-and-see approach to the economy. And for whatever reason, we haven't seen that get any worse. In fact, we've seen some of it begin to rebound. Not really sure where it goes from there, but at this point, it doesn't look like it's continuing to drop. Okay, that's helpful.

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Kim James

And then my next question is switching over to engineered products. If I use as a starting point, and I'm assuming this is oversimplification, but let me try it. If I take your fourth quarter gross margin average, or EBITDA, better yet, from engineered products, and I kind of simply annualize that by multiplying it by four. When we're thinking about that segment for 2023, what adjustments should I be making to that? What should I be considering as opposed to just simply multiplying that number by four, whether it's on the revenue side, on the cost side, whether it's an upward bias or lower bias? What considerations should I be looking at for next year?

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Guy

Hey Tim, it's Frank. It's a good question. It's a tricky one because obviously the culmination of our negotiations with customers and suppliers obviously came through in Q4, but it was, you know, collective of many months of effort, etc. I think on the go forward basis, you know, we'd be looking at revenues more in line with what we saw in sort of 2019. And, you know, gross profit really in the low double digits is really where we see things going from a normalized perspective.

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Kim James

And sorry, Frankie, cut out there for a minute. What did you see in terms of the margin? You said revenue is kind of more in line with what we saw in 19. But what was your reference to the margin then?

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Guy

Yeah, a low double digit is sort of where we're looking at going forward. Basically, we view now flexible as a profitable operation moving forward that will be generating positive cash flow.

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Kim James

Okay, and forgive me, it may sound like a funny question, but given the variability in the margin that we've seen from this business, when you say low double-digit margin, what type of margin are you? Gross margin. Gross margin. Gross margin. Okay. Okay, so I guess then it leads to the question, is there any... impacts in the fourth quarter that you can cite that were unusual like a catch-up adjustment on revenue or costs or anything that we can kind of pull out of that fourth quarter to understand maybe what it would have been without this i'm going to call it a one-time sort of catch-up that maybe occurred i can't really comment on that tim okay okay that's fair um I think that was it. That was all the questions I had. I'll get back in the queue. Thank you very much.

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Operator

The next question is from David Ocampo with Cormark Securities. Please go ahead.

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David Ocampo

Thank you. Good morning, everyone. Just sticking on the theme of engineered products, just curious, Frank, do you guys have all your customers now signed up under new pricing contracts, or is there still more room to go in 2023?

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Grand Schock

So, David, as you know, this has been a long time coming, and we negotiated with the 11 top customers that were creating the biggest problem for us, and we successfully concluded those 11 negotiations successfully. Subsequent to that conclusion, though, we have also gone to the rest of our customers in a similar pattern. So I think at this point in time, we are concluded with everybody as we speak.

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David Ocampo

And kind of looking forward, are those contracts based on fixed pricing, or if we see inflationary pressures come back into the fold, those contracts can fall underwater again? Or are there pricing adjustments now?

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Grand Schock

Yeah, no, we've protected ourselves on the majority of those contracts. And I guess we had the advantage of negotiating, you know, at a very high sort of rate. But, yeah, we've made sure that we've protected ourselves on the downside. Okay, perfect.

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David Ocampo

And then just moving off to defense here. And take a look at the revenue line. It's kind of been that $20 to $25 million range for the last three quarters now. Is that a good starting point? And we should think about any incremental contracts that you win, whether it's COVID testing kits or any Husky awards that you guys announced as incremental to that $20 to $25? Or are those awards that you guys have announced included in that kind of $20 to $25 million run rate?

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Guy

No, David, I would say that the 20 to 25 is more the baseline, and then these contracts, as they start to deliver, would be accretive to that. Obviously, there's a few moving parts in there from the portfolio, but definitely we'd consider Q4 sort of softness versus where we expect to move forward. Perfect.

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David Ocampo

And can you guys comment on any potential large contract awards that we should be keeping an eye on?

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spk06

Nothing really has changed, David, in that regard. We still haven't any that we are working on, and we're still waiting for the government to make their awards. There haven't been any awards that have gone to other people, just they have not been delivering awards. their words in the timeframe that they had indicated originally.

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David Ocampo

Okay, got it. Thanks a lot, guys. I'll hop back in the queue.

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Operator

The next question is from Kevin Chang with CIBC. Please go ahead.

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Kevin Chang

Good morning, everybody. Thanks for taking my question. Maybe if I could summarize you know it sounds like a number of puts and takes you know maybe there's a recession you know could impact rubber volumes aeps obviously um should be better in 2023 you know when you put it all together it feels like earnings will be higher in 2023 versus 2022 i mean is that the right way to at least look at it even in the face of uh So some macro headwinds here, whether it's recessions or continued supply chain issues, is that at least something you see on the horizon?

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Guy

Yeah, Kevin, it's Frank. It's a good question. I'd say there was a lot of moving parts in 22. So, you know, it'd be a little bit difficult. But I would suggest that we're looking at things continuing to build on the 22 outcome, subject to obviously a few other things that were mentioned previously in terms of future business, etc. But we're definitely looking to progress off of the year end 2022.

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Kevin Chang

And then just, not to belabor this point, just with some of the benefits you saw in Q4 within engineered products, some of the, I guess, catch-up on some of the costs you were incurring in previous periods, did any of that flow into Q1, or was that all captured in the fourth quarter here?

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Guy

There will be a little bit flowing into Q1, but primarily it was captured in Q4.

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Kevin Chang

And then the last one for me, you know, I guess the U.S. is going to, or the White House at least, will issue their defense budget, or I guess plans are for them to issue their budget overall, and they're asking for another big bump in defense spending. I'm just wondering, is there anything you're looking out for in the White House? Do you think they'll get more clarity on things like, you know, demand for overpressure sensors, maybe more clarity on some of the PPE stuff. Is there anything you're looking out for as Congress starts to hatch out the fiscal 2024 budget here?

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spk06

The defense budget is out, as you know. The White House doesn't, once the budget is out, it's really the DOD or the DLA that make the acquisitions. So there has been a lot of inbound inquiries, particularly about some of our military products like the Husky, the Vandelier, There's another RFQ out for gloves. So, you know, as you know, over the COVID period, the defense spending relative to our products was down significantly. So we're seeing interest pick up a lot in our traditional defense products. The big uncertainty is how quickly is the stockpile of PPE for HHS going to be filled, and they haven't been filling it at the rate that they have wanted to. We're told there's funding for several of our products. So, you know, we got the test kit award, and we're optimistic there will be more test kits There are several other potentially large healthcare products that we are hoping to get this year.

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Kevin Chang

Do you think, when I think back a couple of years ago, to your point, I mean, the the defense budget has changed surely the priorities have changed especially with the ongoing conflict in the Ukraine but do you think that pushes out some of the longer term opportunities you saw like I think back a couple of years you know at that time we were looking out a couple of years thinking on top of the pipeline you had indicated at that time there's an opportunity potentially for you know the gas mask contract and then maybe the beginning of a ramp up in black gauge orders do you think the timeline for that stuff is still, you know, within your original expectations? Or do you think the fact that, you know, some of the business you thought you'd have won already, or the industry would have won already had been pushed out a year or two, that that also pushes out some of these longer term opportunities that you're to visit is a situation where they all kind of come together at the same time, potentially for you.

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spk06

But I think the demand for, uh, Some things, like the Husky, the timeline for that has actually been shortened. The Bandelier is a product which we just started selling a year ago or so, and there's been a tremendous amount of interest in that product. and we're expecting that we will generate additional sales on that product, and that's a very high-margin product for us. The last gauge we delivered our final prototype on time, on schedule in November, and it's currently in theoretically final evaluations. So if there aren't any more tweaks that... that they've asked for and that hopefully that will start later this year. The gas mask they have asked for proposals for several new bells and whistles on the gas masks which we and At least one other company are in the process of developing for them. So they sort of have a wish list of new things that they want on that market, and we're sort of excited to be able to develop them for them. I would think that process will take at least a year, maybe a year and a half. But we're getting paid in the interim.

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Grand Schock

And just to add to that, Kevin, because of the way your question was phrased, the U.S. gas mask contract, it starts out with an RFI where they look at different technologies and they kind of decide which direction they want to go to build the RFP, the request for, or the RFQ, I should say. The RFI came out about a year earlier than we thought it would come out. So we're not really sure if that means that the RFP or the RFQ will come out earlier than we thought. But I think that was a good sign that the U.S. military is looking at this equipment as a key potential upgrade for their forces. And we're right on the forefront of being able to compete on that.

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Kevin Chang

That's right. That's actually a great reminder. Thank you very much. That's all for me. Best of luck in 2023.

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Operator

Once again, our next question is from Ben Jeffick with Pi Financial. Please go ahead.

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Ben Jeffick

Hi, good morning. I have a question. Most of the good questions have been asked and I guess I just wanted to ask a question regarding acquisitions. I'm assuming that 2022 had a lot of moving parts and probably took a lot of your attention to deal with those. Can you just summarize Grant or Chris? I think you were talking about acquisitions earlier in the opening remarks. If you can just sort of summarize what segments are you trying to add to or thinking about adding to? What would that accomplish? Is there more sort of on the technology side or footprint side? What is your current mindset, basically?

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Grand Schock

I think in general, Ben, we've been always public with the idea of what our M&A strategy looks like. On the Airbus rubber solution side, we are continually looking for ways to expand our geographic reach, expand our technology into the specialty compounding side as well. And we continue to do that, and we are quite active in assessing opportunities. We were active in assessing opportunities in 2022, and we continue to be active doesn't mean we execute on all of them but we are we are quite active uh an airbus engineered products as you know we've looked at a a plan to take that product line and be able to generate as much revenue on the non-automotive side as we generate on the automotive side. So we are looking for opportunities there where if we were able to bring on some non-automotive products that fit well within our process and our key competencies, that we would do that there. and on the airboss defense group side as a survivability platform we are continually looking at other survivability products or companies that provide these kinds of products that we can that we can bring in under the fold so those are kind of the three areas that we look at and uh you know of course 2022 we were more digesting the two acquisitions we made uh the year before uh and integrating them and we're quite uh pleased with the integration of those two business units And, you know, ACE elastomer has, you know, hit the ground running and has, you know, surpassed our expectations. And B3 is, you know, still on the cusp of being able to provide these blast gauge systems on a more larger scale to multiple militaries that we're speaking to. So those are sort of the three categories that we look at. And we were active last year, but it turned out that we were not able to execute on any last year, but we continue to stay active.

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Ben Jeffick

Okay, perfect. That's all for me. Thank you.

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Operator

This concludes the question and answer session. I'd like to turn the conference back over to Chris Bitsakakis for closing remarks.

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Grand Schock

Thank you, Operator, and thanks again, everyone, for attending today's call. Please feel free to reach out to us directly or through our investor relations team if you have any questions on our results or anything in general. Thank you and have a great day.

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Operator

This concludes today's conference. You may disconnect your lines. Thank you for participating and have a pleasant day.

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