5/8/2025

speaker
Grant
Moderator

We're going to get into it very quickly here. With us today, Randy Bumauer, who's the CEO of Sumatrix, and Marie-José Quintin, who is the chief financial officer, and potentially Jordan Wolf, president of MOS, or Mixed Onsite out of Chicago, might be joining us later in case there's any questions about about what's happening in and around Chicago. So with that, Randy and MJ, I'm going to turn it over to you. Thank you.

speaker
Randy Bumauer
Chief Executive Officer

Great. Thank you very much, Grant. Really appreciate that introduction. Welcome everyone to our Q1 earnings call. I appreciate everybody attending. We're going to first kind of do a quick overview of Symmetrix and the company, just in case we've got some new New investors and new potential shareholders on the call. For many of you, this will be a repeat, so I'll do a pretty quick and then I'll hand it over to MJ who will go through our Q1 financials. Key investor highlights. This is really sort of an executive summary. Smatrix is an innovative cellular concrete solutions company. We're a leading provider of lightweight, cost-effective, durable cellular concrete for infrastructure projects. We have a strong competitive advantage and we work primarily as a subcontractor for major North American general contractors. Financial strength and overall growth trend is an important part of our story. Our 2024 revenue was $35 million with a positive adjusted EBITDA of $3.3 million. We had cash flow from operations of almost $5 million. At the end of the first quarter, we had $8.5 million in cash and no long-term debt. We did have some equipment financing that is in the long-term section. And we're forecasting a record year in 2025. That won't show up as every quarter is better than the quarter last year or better than the the record year in 2023. In construction, when major projects start and stop has a major impact on how our revenue looks like in these accounting periods that accountants track things in. Overall, for Smatrix, there's a really significant market opportunity. We're an industry leader. The global cellular concrete market is very large and there's tailwinds that are helping us in terms of increased infrastructure spending in Canada and the U.S. So team and corporate timeline, the three executive officers of the company are myself as CEO, Jordan Wolf, as Grant mentioned, the president of Mix Onsite, our largest business in the US, and MJ, who is our CFO. We've got a strong independent board with Manaz, Rick, Steve, and Anna, and John. When we look at the overall share ownership of the company, there's 151 million shares issued and outstanding, fully diluted, we're at about 167.7. Insiders own about 15.4 million of those shares or roughly 10%. Jordan Wolf is the largest insider and I would be the second largest insider. You can see our company was founded in 99. We survived a lot of ups and downs and we've really hit an inflection point in the last couple of years where revenue growth has been matched with positive EBITDA and positive cashflow from operations. For those of you who don't know anything about the product, cellular concrete is made by mixing cement, water, and foaming agent together. The foaming agent creates bubbles in the mixture, which results in a cellular structure when the concrete sets. As a result of the properties of cellular concrete, it's very cost-effective compared to other materials. comparable replacement products, has a low density and is lightweight, has a high bearing capacity. It's extremely pumpable, highly flowable and self-leveling, self-compacting. The bubbles give it a thermal, some thermal insulating properties. It's very durable and it's also excavatable. So if you're covering shallow utilities, you can get back at those utilities if you need to. There's a lot of applications for cellular concrete because of its properties. The main ones that we focus in on is lightweight engineered fill. MSE retaining wall fill, lightweight insulating road sub bases, especially over weaker unstable soils, flowable and self-compacting fill, pipe and culvert abandonments, tunnel and annular grout, and shallow utility and foundation insulation. Customers and competitive advantage. So Smatrix is almost always a subcontractor or general contractor. We will on occasion, especially for smaller scopes of work, work directly with an owner. And we've worked with almost all of the largest general contractors in North America. And we've shown you a snapshot of some of those down there below. From a competitive advantage point of view, really our number one competitive advantage is our reputation. We've been successfully delivering cellular concrete solutions on time and on budget for over 25 years. Our team has a lot of expertise. We have over 200 years of in the field experience. We have a large fleet of mobile, technically advanced equipment for producing cellular concrete with capacity to grow. Our size and scale is a competitive advantage. We have multiple locations from coast to coast. We successfully completed projects across Canada and the US and we're greener and more sustainable generally than the legacy products that we replace. There's a lot of words in here, but essentially the summation of it is the market is quite large. It's very hard to estimate what the size of this market is, but it's been estimated as low as $4 billion worldwide to as high as $27 billion worldwide. I think everyone would agree the market for cellular concrete is growing as more people understand the properties of the product and it's successfully implemented in more projects across the world by Simatrix and other providers. infrastructure spending is increasing. Infrastructure in Canada and the US is aging and needs to be repaired and replaced. Populations continue to grow, so new infrastructure is required, which places additional loads on existing infrastructure. So spending is just expected to increase. So I think, MJ, is this where I turn it over to you?

speaker
Marie-José Quintin
Chief Financial Officer

Yes, please. Thank you, Randy. So let's go over some key financial highlights to understand our business at Simatrix. Despite a step back in 2024, our overall revenue trend line is growing. I'll show that to you on the next slide on the graph. For instance, revenue in 2021 was $22.6 million and 2024, $35.6. And as Randy mentioned, we were forecasting 2025 to be a record year. We have a positive bottom line and we are generating cash. In 2024, as an instance, we had adjusted EBITDA of $3.3 million and positive cash flow of about $5 million as well. We do have a healthy balance sheet with low leverage. At the end of Q1 2025, we had $8.5 million in cash. We had no long-term debt, as Randy mentioned. So some keys to understanding our business. Revenue growth will be lumpy. It will not be a staircase. Financial results will be variable based on the timing of when large projects start and stop. Construction is a seasonal business, as a reminder, with higher revenues and warmer months. On average, revenue over the last five years were 18% for Q1 and Q2, 36% for Q3, and 28% for Q4. We are a specialty construction contractor. Margins tend to be higher than general contractors, but we do have more idle time and more fixed costs. Project size impacts margins. Larger projects have more competition and as a result, lower margin. We do have excess capacity, which enables us to do significantly more revenue with existing equipment and staffing levels. So let's start to talk about Q1 financial results and highlights. So as we just mentioned, Q1 is traditionally our slowest quarter. Having said that our revenue was solid in Q1 at 6.6 million, that compares to 8.4 million in 2024. Gross margins solid again at 22%. You're going to see the trend on the graph on the next slide. In Q1, and we compare that to 30% in 2024, which was a large month for us. Operating income, we had a loss of 0.7 in Q1 compared to income of 0.3 in 2024. Adjusted EBITDA, a small loss of 0.1 million in Q1 compared to a million in 2024. And cash flow from operations before non-cash working capital changes was negative 0.1 in Q1 compared to 0.9 in 2024. And cash on hand, as we talked about, was 8.5 million. And if you're curious, the same period of last year, it was 7.9 million. So let's look at the graphs here. So if you look at the Upper left-hand side, you can see our trend line is growing. When you look at the progress we've made since from eight years ago, our compounded annual growth rate is about 24%. And just be aware that in orange, the 6.6 is just representing one quarter, but it kind of shows you that in 2017, we almost did the same volume, which is good. So our trend line is growing, as I mentioned. And if you look on the right-hand side, our gross margins, And the dip that you see is when we had some COVID and supply chain issues and cement shortages. And for Q1, it was at 22%, pretty solid overall. And looking down on the left-hand side, you see our debt and interest. We've come a long way and we have significantly reduced our debt and interest costs in the last eight years. And as Randy mentioned, and I mentioned, we've bid our long-term debt. And right now we do have a an equipment financing loan for two dry mix units that we just signed up for. And on the right-hand side, we have our share structure. So at the end of the quarter, we had 150.5 million of shares outstanding. We do have 6.1 million of options, 2.9 million restricted share units, and 8.2 million warrants for a total of 167.7 million. So let's talk about our backlog now. At the end of the quarter, we had 79.7 million. So it grew from the end of December, which was at 69.6, which we're pretty happy about it. We've had lots of success securing work since the beginning of the year. So we secured $20.9 million and we're pretty happy about it. And these projects are for various applications. So our sales team is doing a tremendous job at securing work. And I think I'm going to pass it to you, Randy, talk about some closing remarks. You are on mute, Randy.

speaker
Randy Bumauer
Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, MJ. So yeah, just to sum up, why invest in Sumatrix? So number one is we're an industry leader. We're really well positioned to capitalize on the large opportunity in the large and growing infrastructure construction segment. We're a growth company. We have growing revenue, positive adjusted EBITDA, positive cash flow from operations and a strong balance sheet. So being a growth company doesn't mean that every quarter is going to be higher than the previous years. It just means overall the trend is growing and we expect 2025 to be a record year for us. We believe that we're currently undervalued based on traditional valuation metrics. However you want to look at it, whether it's a multiple of forward revenue or a multiple of adjusted EBITDA, we feel like we're currently undervalued. We don't have to raise any capital to fund a burn rate. Being cashflow positive means that if we're raising capital, it should only be in support of an accretive acquisition, which is not most microcap companies can't say that. And lastly, we have capital to deploy. So we have capital on the balance sheet that we're looking to put into an acquisition to continue to grow the company via acquisition. And we're also continuing to invest in our sales resources so we can expand geographically and grow our company organically. We've got our investor relations contacts on the right-hand side and our analyst that covers us, his information is also on the right-hand side there. And then lastly, I just want to say thank you and kind of recognize the legacy of our founder, Jeff Kendrick. So Jeff Kendrick epitomizes a successful entrepreneur. He founded Sumatrix in 1999. He basically built the company from an idea that was in his mind to a company that's public with over 60 people employed and performs over 50 million in revenue. The idea started out in his garage, funded by $15,000 from his RRSP and some money from his partner. Jeff was a true pioneer in the industry. Everybody in the cellular concrete industry knows Jeff and has benefited from Jeff's efforts to grow awareness about cellular concrete. Jeff successfully completed two acquisitions in 2018 and 2019 that really transformed Simatrix into the company that it is today. Jeff had all the essential characteristics of a successful entrepreneur, optimism, work ethic, belief, willingness to roll up his sleeves. So we just wanted to take a moment to thank Jeff for his leadership and wish him all the best in retirement. So with that, we'll turn it back over to Grant to help us navigate any questions that the audience might have.

speaker
Grant
Moderator

Thanks, MJ and Randy, and I see that Jordan has joined us out of Chicago. Just a reminder, folks, that at the bottom of your screen is the area where you can submit your questions. Jordan, welcome.

speaker
Jordan Wolf
President, Mix Onsite

Thank you. Thank you for having me.

speaker
Grant
Moderator

We're going to start with Russell Stanley, who is the analyst with Beacon Securities that has written research on Sumatrix, and he's got several questions. So with that, can you update us on the expected start dates for the major projects in North Carolina and the Midwest?

speaker
Randy Bumauer
Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, as Russell knows, I generally don't like to talk about projects before they start. I like to be kind of keep that information to ourselves. But these two projects that Russell's referring to, we have been public about those and the names of them. So the one tunnel grouting project, we actually started grouting that tunnel this week. So we should see revenues for that in the second quarter. And the other project, which is the major highway project in North Carolina, we're expecting to start that in June or July. And we just also caution investors that those projects won't be done in the span of 30 months or 30 days. They will take multiple months, maybe even multiple quarters to finish. So that revenue will be spread out through Q2, Q3 and Q4 potentially.

speaker
Grant
Moderator

Russell's next question, accounts receivable climb sequentially despite the seasonal quarter over quarter decline in revenue. Can you provide some color on that?

speaker
Randy Bumauer
Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, so I mean, that just really relates to the timing of when the work happened. So if you go back and look at our Q1 revenue, most of that revenue occurred later in the quarter. And as a result, accounts receivable climb compared to not last year's volume, but compared to the end of this year, or sorry, end of 2024. So it's really just about the timing of receivables. We have no concerns about our customers' ability or willingness to pay us.

speaker
Grant
Moderator

So next one, understanding Sumatrix has little or no direct tariff exposure. Are you seeing any customer caution owing to the current uncertainty in the market?

speaker
Randy Bumauer
Chief Executive Officer

A little bit, I would say. I think everybody's a little bit nervous and uncertain about the overall macroeconomic impact of tariffs and how quickly they change, right? If you One of the things that you need to run a business properly is you need certainty around government policy. So with the way that the tariffs are going, that's doing the exact opposite, which is creating lots of uncertainty. I would say our direct experience is if a project is already committed and ongoing, tariffs have very little impact of that. I think where you'll see impacts is if somebody's thinking about making an investment in the future, that they might choose to delay that decision until there's more certainty around tariffs and what's going to happen there.

speaker
Grant
Moderator

This question is about margins. Can you provide some color on future gross margins? Is 20 to 25% the range that is reasonable? And would you expect that to hold for the remainder of the year?

speaker
Randy Bumauer
Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, there's two components to margins. There's the margins that we make when we're working, which we would call direct margin or project margin. And then the second component is the indirect costs, which are the costs related to either keeping the equipment working or bench time when we don't have employees working. So when our revenue volume is lower, then the project margins aren't necessarily enough or less compared to the indirect costs that they have to cover. And so then the gross margin can look smaller. When revenue is higher, there's more project margin, but a similar amount of indirect costs it has to cover, so then the gross margin grows. Long story short, I would expect that gross margins would improve as our revenue goes up here in the second and third quarter.

speaker
Grant
Moderator

Question here on contracts, and you've addressed it in part discussing two of the projects that were moved from last year that were expected to have started in 24 and now are starting in 25. But the question relates to four contracts that got moved last year. Will all of them start this year?

speaker
Randy Bumauer
Chief Executive Officer

That's an impossible question for me to answer because I don't know which questions or which contracts they're talking about, Grant. All I'd say is, you know, contracts start and stop dates, those move in construction. You know, depending on what happens on the site or with the general contract of the owner. The one thing I can tell you about for sure in construction is things almost never start when they are expected to. But I think that's just part of the business. And I think commenting on it's really not that helpful.

speaker
Grant
Moderator

A general question about the construction market. What are you seeing in the construction market that makes you optimistic about 2025?

speaker
Randy Bumauer
Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, so, you know, our optimism about 2025 doesn't really come from sort of macroeconomic trends or what we see in the construction market. Our optimism comes from looking at our backlog and understanding how much of that backlog is going to go into the ground this year. That's where optimism comes from. Our overall optimism about the future of the company really comes from looking at, as we talked about earlier in the presentation, the increased infrastructure spending because of, A, growing populations and, B, aging infrastructure. And then that coupled with more and more successful applications of cellular concrete, both by us and by other participants in the market, just says there's so many tailwinds that are helping us and the industry overall that we feel very confident about our future.

speaker
Grant
Moderator

You mentioned about tariffs, but you've already addressed that. Of the 17 million options and warrants, how many are in the money and do you know the expiry dates offhand?

speaker
Randy Bumauer
Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, so the warrants that are outstanding, of which I think there's about just over 8 million, those come from the financing that we did last summer. And there's a portion of those warrants that are at $0.45, so they're out of the money, but the majority of them are at $0.61, and so they're also out of the money. If you look at the options that have been issued because of the impact on our share price, almost all of our options are currently out of the money. Some might have some small in-the-money value, but as a result of where the share price is, they're all out of the money as well.

speaker
Grant
Moderator

Somebody missed the beginning of the webinar was asking about the current backlog. I can answer that very quickly. So at the end of 24, the backlog was a hair under 70 million. And as of the end of the first quarter, we're at 79.7 million. So it grew about $13 million.

speaker
Randy Bumauer
Chief Executive Officer

I'd also just say in that grant, we've gone away from disclosing backlog and news releases around contract awards, and we provide a very detailed reconciliation of backlog inside our MD&A.

speaker
Grant
Moderator

I should hear about the normal course issuer bid. Can you provide a status update on that?

speaker
Randy Bumauer
Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, so the normal course issuer bid is fully approved and ready to go. we were not allowed to start purchasing while we're in blackout. It is possible to purchase during blackout, but that has to be under a plan that's made while you're not in blackout. So long story short, we haven't started making any purchases. I reiterate that we as a company and as leaders of the company feel that the company is undervalued. So when we are out of blackout on Monday next week, we expect to start buying in the market.

speaker
Grant
Moderator

Which is great because the next question was also about the normal course and how much stock you've already bought. But you just answered that you haven't bought any yet, but soon.

speaker
Randy Bumauer
Chief Executive Officer

I'm sorry, Grant. The only thing I should add to that is, you know, there's some perception out there that we're going to buy the maximum that we're allowed. And I would just caution investors against that. There's no plan currently to buy the maximum that's allowed, but we're going to buy some portion of that maximum.

speaker
Grant
Moderator

Question about the relationship with Lafarge, where you've both done road studies using cellular concrete with great results. Don't you think that it would be better to talk to construction giants to convince them to use your cellular cement or concrete as base for roads and highways rather than the engineering companies?

speaker
Randy Bumauer
Chief Executive Officer

You have to talk to all the participants in the process. You can't just focus on one or the other. They all have a role to play and they're all a stakeholder to play. And so cellular concrete absolutely helps for road construction, especially over weaker, unstable soils. If you're building a road over stable soils, then you can get by without using cellular concrete. It's just not required. And the road could be cheaper as a result. You may get a longer life by using cellular concrete, but it's a bit of a cost benefit analysis that the owner has to do. But over weaker unstable soils, then that cost benefit analysis becomes more poignant. and makes more sense. And so those are the situations where we're focusing on. So I don't think you'll see a situation where every road base is made using cellular concrete, but I think you will see a situation where over weakened unstable soils, of which there are many in many places where that's the case, you'll see more and more of the use of cellular concrete.

speaker
Grant
Moderator

Question in and around. Beacon's last research, I presume this is correct, where the individual says Beacon estimated 55 million as target revenue for 25. Is that the correct number? And the question is, is that doable?

speaker
Randy Bumauer
Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, and I apologize because I should have said this at the end of that presentation, right, is we don't provide guidance. The only guidance we have provided is that we're going to have the best year we've ever had. And so the only person who's going to speak to how Beacon's numbers are calculated is Beacon themselves.

speaker
Grant
Moderator

Been pretty clear that, as you just said, you're anticipating a record year. You don't have any long-term debt. You're throwing off cash. Lots of companies would like to be in that position. Another one just came in. Have you made any progress on expanding your reach into warmer regions to increase work for the remaining quarters?

speaker
Randy Bumauer
Chief Executive Officer

So yes, I mean, there's kind of two factors that you have to consider, right? So if it's a very large project, it's easy for us to bid those projects basically in any jurisdiction. And we've worked in almost all of the states and all the provinces in the US and Canada. So we're effectively already doing that. The trick is, as the projects get smaller, then the mobilization costs become a bigger component of the overall cost to the general contractor or the owner. And that's where being local or having a more local presence can have a bigger advantage on those opportunities. And so we're still assessing the marketplace to figure out where we become more local. And that may be through an acquisition or it may be through the placement of a salesperson somewhere local. So we're still working on that plan, but any large size projects that are in those types of markets, we're actively bidding those.

speaker
Grant
Moderator

At this moment. Oh, another one just came in. In terms of new orders, how has the order intake trend been year to date versus the last two years?

speaker
Randy Bumauer
Chief Executive Officer

I don't know that information off the top of my head, Grant. What I would say is we feel like we've had a really successful first quarter around securing work for this year and next. So we're really happy with our sales team's performance and feel like we are growing and on track for a record year and continue our success.

speaker
Grant
Moderator

As a follow-up in relation to Beacon's target, just asking is it Canadian or U.S.? ? And I believe the answer is Canadian.

speaker
Randy Bumauer
Chief Executive Officer

It's Canadian. We're a reporting issuer in Canada, so all the numbers we report are Canadian.

speaker
Grant
Moderator

At the moment, that is it for the questions. Oh, sorry. One more just came in. In terms of cost inflation, are you seeing pressure on your SG&A?

speaker
Randy Bumauer
Chief Executive Officer

So inflation is definitely an everyday part of business. And so everyone's looking to increase prices every year. So we're seeing some mild cost inflation. We're seeing some inflation around wages as people try to have their wages keep up with inflation because wages can be somewhat of a lagger. But we're also working to manage our SG&A costs. So we've taken steps to ensure that The things we're doing to manage costs are greater than any inflationary pressures that we'll see. And you'll actually notice if you look at our SG&A costs, they're actually down this quarter versus last year.

speaker
Grant
Moderator

Question for Jordan. Someone has asked if he would provide his perspective on the market and the opportunities.

speaker
Jordan Wolf
President, Mix Onsite

Well, in general, you know, I think that we've, we're in a good spot and we're continuing to build off the success that we've had. And I'm speaking specifically for Mix Onsite, but I'd only like to talk about, you know, what we've done in the past and Mix on Sight's been pretty successful in recent years. And what I can tell you is that the trends that I'm seeing in the market seem to be looking very stout and we're continuing to build off of and improve and handle more volume than we have in the past.

speaker
Grant
Moderator

So the border, do you expect to break into Quebec and Ontario in the next two to three years? I know you're You've done projects there, but I think probably the question relates to a bigger presence in those provinces.

speaker
Randy Bumauer
Chief Executive Officer

We already have a pretty significant presence in Ontario. That's a place where we have a base of operations. We have a crew base there. A significant portion of our Canadian revenue comes out of the Ontario market. We have a salesperson also dedicated to the Quebec market. We've recently got MTQ approval to be a lightweight steel and a grouting material there. And we're actively bidding work in the province of Quebec. So both those markets are key components of our success in Canada.

speaker
Grant
Moderator

Lation type related. Do you have price escalation baked into your contracts so that you can pass on any increases to your customers?

speaker
Randy Bumauer
Chief Executive Officer

So we do often include escalators in the contracts. It really is a bit contract-specific, but we feel like we're adequately covered around inflation in our contracts.

speaker
Grant
Moderator

Great. That appears to be it, unless anything comes in in the next few seconds. So with that, closing comments?

speaker
Randy Bumauer
Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, I just wanted to thank our current shareholders who've kind of stuck with us. I know the overall return on the investment has not been great compared to where we started out kind of last year. I'm extremely confident in our year, despite the first quarter being lower than last year's first quarter. I just ask you to stick with us. And I think if you do, you'll be very happy with your investment. We're on track for a record year and I've never been more confident about where we are as a company and the successes that we have lying in front of us.

speaker
Grant
Moderator

Andy, MJ, Jordan, thank you very much. And to all the attendees, we very much appreciate your time. We'll see you in the next quarterly report. Thank you. Thank you, everybody.

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