Canfor Corporation

Good morning. My name is Pam and I will be your conference operator today. Welcome to the Canfor and CanforPulp second quarter analyst call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. During this call, Canfor and CanforPulp's chief financial officer will be referring to a slide presentation that is available in the investor relations section of the company's website. Also, the company would like to point out that this call will include forward-looking statements, so please refer to the press release for the associated risks of such statements. I would now like to turn the meeting over to Mr. Don Kane, Canfor Corporation's President and Chief Executive Officer. Please go ahead, Mr. Kane.

All right. Thanks, Pam, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining the Canfor and Canfor Pulse Q2 2022 Results Conference Call. I'm going to make a few comments before I turn things over to Kevin Edgson, Canfor Pulp's President and CEO, and Pat Elliott, Chief Financial Officer of Canfor Corporation and Canfor Pulp, and our Senior Vice President of Sustainability. In addition, we are joined by Kevin Pankratz, our Senior Vice President of Sales and Marketing. Increasingly, when I meet with members of the investment community with customers and partners, Sustainability is at the top of the list of topics to discuss and it should be because it's critically important to all of us. We are in the second year of our ambitious sustainability journey. Sustainability is core to our strategy and it's becoming increasingly embedded in all areas of our business. At the end of June, we released our 2021 sustainability report. A few highlights for the year, including setting our climate change goal and targets, planting 54 million seedlings, having 80% of our energy come from renewable resources, and having 20% of our new hires come from underrepresented groups. Our employees across the company have demonstrated that they are committed to achieving our sustainability goals and targets, and we sincerely appreciate their hard work and dedication in developing a very comprehensive report. We will continue to keep you updated on our sustainability progress. Turning to our financial results, despite ongoing supply chain challenges which resulted in reduced operating rates in Western Canada, our lumber business benefited from strong North American lumber prices early in the quarter, increasing shipments reflected improved transportation networks in June, and a full quarter of production from our recently acquired assets from Miller Western. Our European lumber business continued to generate strong financial results with improved sales realizations reflecting solid demand in that region. While lumber markets saw significant volatility in the second quarter, lean inventories throughout the supply chain and solid underlying demand fundamentals have supported improved markets in recent weeks, with current North American lumber prices trading well ahead of pre-pandemic levels. While rising interest rates and inflationary pressures are likely to temper lumber demand in the near term, market fundamentals remain supportive. by stolen underlying demand in the repair and remodel sector and pent-up demand for new home construction in the United States particularly. Notwithstanding the current macro environment, we remain focused on growing our lumber business on a global basis and believe our diversification strategy will support our financial results throughout the cycle. Yesterday, we announced plans to construct a second state-of-the-art greenfield sawmill This $210 million facility is aligned with our sustainability goals and decarbonization targets and will have annual production capacity of 250 million board feet when completed in 2024. Following the construction and startup of this facility, we will have an orderly wind down of our existing sawmill and mobile, allowing us to maximize cash flows during construction. All of the employees at our mobile plant will be offered jobs to stay with the company. In addition to this new facility, we have made significant capital investments in the U.S. South in recent years, including an organic growth program completed in 2021, ongoing construction of our DeRitter Greenfield Sawmill, and planned investment in Urbana. Together, these investments significantly improve our cost structure to grow our production capacity in the U.S. South by approximately 800 million board feet through increased automation, innovation, and manufacturing flexibility with a focus on high-value products. Notwithstanding our recent acquisition of assets from Miller Western and a number of significant capital projects planned through 2024, our balance sheet remains strong. While we are prepared to remain patient and disciplined until the right opportunities present themselves, we are well positioned to grow our lumber business on a global basis and continue to review a number of additional internal and external growth opportunities. So with that, I'll now turn it over to Kevin to provide an overview of Kemp or Pulp.

Thanks, Don, and good morning, everyone. Results in the second quarter continue to reflect the impact of significant transportation challenges, as well as operational downtime at Northwood as a result of capital upgrades to RB1 and scheduled maintenance turnaround, which was successfully completed in July. While transportation networks improved slightly towards the end of the second quarter, we continue to closely manage inventory levels at our mills as we work to optimize available transportation. Supported by strong global pulp pricing, We anticipate improved results in the third quarter, however, are prepared to adjust future operating plans to match available logistics. Despite significant challenges in recent quarters, Canfor Pulse has preserved its strong balance sheet. As a management team, we remain focused on improving operational reliability, closely managing inflationary cost pressures, and optimizing available transportation as we look to capitalize on strong pulp markets. As Don mentioned, Our 2021 sustainability report was recently released. Canfor Pulse is actively engaged in our sustainability strategy. It's important to our communities and customers, and it's important to us. Canfor and Canfor Pulse have committed to set near and long-term company-wide reductions in line with achieving net zero emissions. Our targets will undergo validation with the science-based targets initiative within the next two years. Our Canfor Pulse leadership team has been focused on reducing our carbon footprint for the last couple of years, and we are assessing several initiatives that will have a meaningful impact on reducing our carbon emissions. I will now turn it over to Pat to provide an overview of our financial results.

Thanks, Kevin, and good morning, everyone. The Canfor and Canfor Pulse quarterly results were released yesterday afternoon and come together with our overview slide presentation in the investor relations section of their respective companies' websites. My comments this morning, I'll speak to quarterly financial highlights, a summary of which is included in our overview slide presentation. Our lumber business generated operating income of $552 million in the second quarter, reflecting continued strong results in Europe, increased shipments, and the benefit of strong North American lumber prices early in the quarter. Our lumber business also benefited from a full quarter of results from our recent acquisition of Miller Western in Alberta. Our European operations contributed approximately $190 million of EBITDA in the second quarter with improved pricing offset in part by increased manufacturing costs and a 5% stronger Canadian dollar. As Don mentioned, North American lumber prices saw significant volatility in the second quarter with results reflecting a sharp decline in lumber prices as the quarter progressed, as well as the impact of ongoing supply chain challenges and related downtime in Western Canada. Transportation networks improved marginally toward the end of the quarter, supporting a reduction of finished inventory. Looking ahead, we anticipate a more challenging third quarter, in part reflecting the timing of market-based stumpage adjustments in British Columbia, the impact of ongoing supply chain challenges, as well as seasonal downtime in Europe. Our pulp business had an operating loss of $8 million in the second quarter and improvement of $18 million quarter over quarter. Second quarter results benefited from significantly higher sales realizations and increased shipment. However, continued to reflect the impact of reduced production at Northwood and increased manufacturing costs, as Kevin mentioned. With the maintenance at Northwood completed in mid-July, we anticipate a solid third quarter supported by improved operating rates and strong global pulp pricing. Capital expenditures were approximately $113 million in the second quarter, including spending on our greenfield sawmill, which continues to be on schedule to start up in early 2023. We are pleased to announce our intent to build a second greenfield sawmill. This investment, combined with our new sawmill in Louisiana and planned investment at Urbana, will significantly improve our cost structure and manufacturing capabilities when completed in 2024. In addition to these investments, we have announced a number of additional growth initiatives in the last year, including successful acquisitions in Alberta and in Europe. Together, these investments total approximately $1.1 billion Canadian dollars and improve our product offering, cost structure, and geographic diversification. In addition, we resume repurchasing shares under our NCIB in June and have spent approximately $65 million to date this year. Looking ahead to 2023, we currently anticipate capital spend of approximately $500 million for our lumber business and subject to market conditions approximately $78 to $80 million for Canfor Pulse. including major maintenance. In addition to an expanded capital program, we continue to look at additional organic and external growth opportunities and plan to continue repurchasing shares under our NCIP. In terms of our sustainability reporting, we continue to increase our transparency. With our 2021 report, our disclosures were aligned with the Task Force on Climate-Related Financial Disclosures and the Sustainability Accounting Standards Board Standards. In addition, as part of that TCFD process, we completed a readiness assessment to understand our progress relative to our peers. We will continue to monitor any future proposed standards to ensure we integrate them into future reporting years. And with that, Don, I'll turn the call back over to you.

Thanks, Pat. And operator, we'll turn this back. And now, any questions from analysts, we look forward to speaking to them.

Thank you. We will now take questions from financial analysts. If you have a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. If you're using a speakerphone, please lift your receiver and then press star 1. If at any time you wish to cancel your question, please press star 2. Please press star 1 now if you do have a question. There will be a brief pause while participants register for questions. Thank you for your patience. Your first question comes from Hamir Patel with CIBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Hi, good morning. Dawn, with the deterioration that we're seeing in the housing fundamentals, are you seeing any moderation in price expectations from some of the vendors that you have conversations with for M&A in Europe or the U.S. South?

I want to talk about that a little bit, Kevin. For M&E? Was it M&E? I missed the last part.

Yeah, in terms of, you know, if vendor expectations have moderated at all.

Yeah, I don't think we're seeing too much of that moderation at all, Hamir, to be honest with you, at this point anyway.

Okay, fair enough. And when you look at the opportunity set, do you see more opportunities in Europe or the U.S.

South right now? I think, you know, both. I think for sure in Europe, we're seeing some here recently. Some that we've been looking at for a while and there's some recent ones as well. So definitely there's opportunities there. And then in the US, so increasingly we're seeing a few more. And I think, you know, as we go forward here over the next, you know, next 12 to 24 months, we expect to see even more after a fairly extended period of not a lot of activity.

Great. Thanks, Don. And just turning to the demand side, With your key big box customers, how do you see that demand shaping up into 23? Clearly, new res is slowing, but I would imagine that there might be some benefits there if people are kind of stuck in their homes. So how do you see R&R faring as you move into 23? Sure, Amir.

And I'll let – I know Kevin's done a fair bit of work on that, so I'll let you speak to that, Kevin.

Sure. Sure. Good morning, Hamir. Yeah, maybe I'll just sort of start just now and move into 2023. And I think it's been reported that we're seeing pretty solid, I would even say unseasonably strong R&R demand throughout the country. And I think while there are some drivers that are maybe contrary to that with interest rates and affordability, but there are still some key drivers in that segment, like the age of old homes, the equity that people have in their homes that are going to support, I think, some solid takeaway going into Q3. And then a big question is, of course, is the impact of inflation and interest rates. That's a bit of an unknown at this point. And I think there's not a ton of guidance going beyond 2023. But suspect that it might be a bit more challenging as we go into that period. But we've been, from what we've seen today, the demand and takeaway has been pretty solid.

Great. Thanks, Kevin. That's helpful. And just the last question for me on the pulp side. Kevin, you know, we saw Stora Enso recently announce plans to commercialize a lignin-based battery. Are there any initiatives on that sort of battery front that you might be looking at, just given all this government support that seems to be available in that market?

Thank you for the question, Hamir. I'd like to really respond on the bioinnovation side in its entirety. I think today is a pretty exciting time in the world in terms of the opportunities that come out of fiber-based or biomass opportunities. Canfor and Canfor Pulp are exciting. exceptionally active in that space, determining not just what the options are, but what are the ones that offer the best probability and profitability going forward. So I can't speak specifically to a battery reference, but I can tell you that there are some very exciting opportunities that we're looking at, including our work around some biomass conversion that's going on in PGU right now.

Great. Thanks, Kevin. That's all I had. I'll get back to you.

Your next question comes from Sean Stewart with TD Securities. Please go ahead.

Thanks. Good morning, everyone. Question on the Alabama sawmill. The capacity multiple looks to be in line with other recent Greenfield announcements, but it's about 30% higher than what you're paying for Derrida based on the most recent CapEx guidance for that project. how do you think about returns for the Alabama project and how do you benchmark those potential returns against M&A opportunities or share buybacks when you're thinking about the relative attractiveness of those investment opportunities?

Yeah, for sure. We've certainly talk a bit about that for sure. And you're absolutely right. We figure it's about 25, 30% more than what we paid at Derrida. And a good chunk of that, of course, is due to some of the cost increases we're seeing across all businesses. When you talk about energy and talk about labour, those two probably in particular, but there's a lot more than that. But those two probably constitute the bulk of that. But really, when we looked at that area, Sean, it was an easy decision. It's one we've looked at for a while. you know, the mobile, some of those downtown mobile, and we know long-term that that doesn't work for a lot of these communities these days, number one, but more importantly, the strategic opportunity there due to the fiber in that area is unique, and we've spoken about that before, I believe a few of us maybe have, and there is some species differences down there that we really wanted to capitalize on, we needed to capitalize on, because not a lot of areas in North America have that ability. So that was key. The customer base in the area is very attractive to us, has been, and will continue to be. So we consider that as well. So aside from just the financial opportunity down there, it really comes down to the strategic opportunity there that we really felt we had to do something. And so that was all part of that decision and why it's jumped up in the queue, I guess, so to speak, over some of the other projects.

And any context on return benchmarks you're targeting for that project?

Pat, we don't normally disclose that, but you can.

Yeah, no, Sean. I mean, I think it's in line kind of with what we've disclosed before, and you sort of asked about our NCIB, and we continue to try to have a balanced approach. We're a little more active on the NCIB this quarter, but we really feel the strategic imperative of the diversification by region and by product in the long term is going to is going to benefit us. But in general, the returns are in line with what we've seen in other projects.

I get it. Second question, Europe, very impressive results again there. You referenced seasonal slowdown expectations for the third quarter. And is that more volume-based or are you starting to see some price erosion in that market? It's a little more opaque in terms of price discovery there. Can you give us some qualifiers around what you're seeing in that market specifically?

Yeah, for sure. I think a couple of things. Certainly on volume, we've got the typical July reductions in volume legacy and what we do across Scandinavia. So that'll have definitely an impact. In talking with those fellows here quite a lot here recently, clearly the Q3, not so much concern about Q3. It should be relatively stable. We'll see log costs slightly up probably and conversion costs a bit up for the same reasons that we've seen in other areas. But for the most part, it's Q4 really when we're starting to – there's still a lot of uncertainty I think everywhere in terms of what it's going to look like there. I will say, though, the big offset, and we don't know at this stage yet what the impact's going to be, but it really comes down to the impact on the embargo on Russian imports into Central Europe, which began on July 9th, and our folks don't believe that we'll really see the impact of that until it's going to take six to eight weeks for that. So, you know, that's towards the tail end of August into September. But clearly, that conversation is becoming much more topical now across our customer base in Europe. and elsewhere, too, for that matter, is what that impact's going to be and, frankly, where some of that leverage is going to come from. So that's, you know, to what degree that offsets some of what I spoke about for Q4. I'm not sure at this point in time, but it will definitely have some impact, for sure, in a positive way. Yeah, understood.

Okay, thanks very much, Don. That's all I have. Good ones, yeah.

Your next question comes from Mark Wild with BMO. Please go ahead.

Thanks. Good morning, Don, Pat, Kevin. Good morning, Mark. I wondered, Don, just to come back to Europe, what can you tell us about the impact you've seen to date from the war in the Ukraine and how that's affected lumber markets? Has it been more of an effect than you expected or less of an effect than you had expected?

I think probably less than I expected, but I think right now, up to now, it's been relatively benign. And I think why is that? Part of the reason was I think initially there was a bit of a – it was misunderstood, I think, to some degree, everywhere in terms of when those embargoes took effect. And originally, I think it was a lot of talk about that being in early June when, in fact, it was early July to start with. And then the lag time for that real impact of that reduction in production and imports coming into Central Europe. I think So that's caused the delay and the impact. And like I was just mentioning, I think that the lag from what our folks have told us is going to probably be six to eight weeks. So that will, again, be towards the tail end of August and September before we really see that. So up to now, it's been a relatively benign impact. That would be our view right now.

I'm just curious, Doug. I've heard from some European producers that a lot of the Russian wood that came in was not necessarily high grade kind of construction lumber. So it's, you know, might not be a kind of a direct one for one. Can you put any color on that?

Yeah, there's definitely some truth to that for sure. But there is also a good mix of some of the higher products, quality products, particularly in red pine. So, you know, to what degree, I don't know exactly. But, you know, overall, though, there's definitely, you know, going to be an impact in the amount of, like logs and lumber, but mostly lumber coming into Central Europe for sure. Kevin, do you want to add to that? Or any more from some of your contacts?

Yeah, I think that red pine comment is what I hear. And some of those go to some different markets like lamina and packaging creating. And I think that's maybe one segment where you're seeing a bigger impact with all the planing facilities like in the Baltics that are starving for wood like Malapia and stuff like that that's having some impact.

Okay, and then, Don, just turning to the balance sheet, you're sitting on, you know, about $10 a share in NetDash. You know, how are you thinking about the use of that position and, you know, what would you suggest is kind of a, you know, a reasonable timeline for us to think about you using that in?

Yeah, well, I mean, I think, you know, no question, and I'll add to this, but we spent, as you probably know, about a billion dollars last year alone with Miller Western. When you look at the Ritter and Urbana and then the announcements here recently, Beat Timber in Sweden, of course, we have a small acquisition there as well. So when you look at all of that, at least for now anyway, that's what we're looking at. Over and above that, there's certainly some other projects that we are looking at and they're active. We're looking at a couple of areas too on the M&A side, both in Sweden and also in the U.S. Southeast. And, you know, over and above that, we have the small buyback, share buyback program, as you know. And so when you look at all those combined and you kind of factor in as well with some of the uncertainty in the marketplace overall, we think we're, in terms of where we're sitting right now, we think it's pretty prudent.

You know, Dan, I'm just curious.

Yeah.

Go ahead. Do you want to add anything?

Oh, no. I mean, Mark, yeah, like I think... It's hard to give you a timeline, as Don says, a lot of opportunities out there, you know, and we're going to continue, I think, with a relatively smaller buyback than others. But I think the opportunity around the diversification of these other regions is going to have an outsized benefit to us. So, you know, we'll continue to, I think, to be patient here.

Yeah. Don, would there be anything for you to do incrementally in engineered wood? Because I think you have kind of a modest size engineered wood business.

Yeah. No, good question, and that's certainly on our radar. It has been for some time, and I think that our sales guys, and Kevin, you can talk about specifics, but without getting too specific, maybe you can qualify that. But we've looked at ourselves right now as a custom supplier to that industry and really done a lot there and really advanced some of the customer base and so forth. And taking that next step in terms of vertical integration, what you referred to, is certainly something that I think Not only prudent for us, but prudent for the industry, because I do think in North America, the opportunity for some of the mass timber and the components of that are equally as good as they are in Europe. We're just behind the eight ball a bit here, more, Kevin, in North America than we are over there. But the opportunity is just as strong. You can maybe touch on a little bit of specifics.

Yeah, sure. Mark, yeah. For sure, it's a really interesting space. I think my recent understanding, even on mass timber, is that the pace of adoption is actually maybe a little ahead of schedule from what we would have earlier forecasted. I think capacity with existing mass timber facilities are tapping out and there's a need for more capacity. Obviously, it's an interesting space for us, and we do see it as a future space for our place and a new market segment that Zomber can go into. As you know, we have two land facilities in the U.S., one in Washington, Georgia, and the other one in Arkansas, that we're looking at opportunities to diversify our product mix and to expand and pursue other opportunities should it arise. So definitely an evolving segment for us that we'd like to get more involved with.

All right. The last one for me, I just wonder whether, Kevin, I just want to just provide us with kind of any early thoughts as he's kind of starts digging into canned pork pulp about sort of, you know, the focal points or the, you know, perspective opportunities he sees, and also how you're thinking about just sort of the fiber issues in Western Canada as it affects those pulp mills.

Go ahead, Kevin. Okay. Thanks, Mark. I think I'd start off with the initial assessment in terms of the organization is that it is a good organization with some solid people behind it. We've got a challenge with reliability driven largely by the logistics challenges that are there. But we've also had the investment in RB1 earlier on, the turnaround at Northwood in the spring, and one coming in Intercon. And all of these create an upset condition, which makes it difficult in terms of the operating conditions, but also on people as they try to drive towards optimizing the assets. I think we'll see some more stability once we get through the intercom shutdown, if we can see a return to more normal logistics flow. On a go for it on the fiber side, I think it's not surprising to anybody there's been curtailments on the solid wood side. There haven't been curtailments outside of our Taylor asset on the pulp side. But there's also a healthy opportunity in terms of whole log chips and the ability to supply the mills there. So we're continuing to look at what the mills are capable of doing, what the fiber supply is, what the economic fiber supply is. But I don't think at this stage we're anticipating any significant change outside of the Taylor asset.

Okay. All right. That sounds good. I'll turn it over. Thank you.

Your next question comes from Paul Quinn with RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Yeah, thanks very much, guys. Maybe just start just clarification.

You guys have talked about this reduced operating rate in Western Canada. Is that just BC specific? I suspect you're running your Alberta Mills poll. Yeah, basically that's correct. It's mostly BC. We probably have a little bit of a hiccup or two here in Alberta, but for the most part, it's focused on British Columbia. Okay. And then maybe, Kevin, if you could take us through, you know, you're new to Canfor Pulse, and I appreciate the overview comments on the organization. What do you think about the mills, you know, themselves? If you can take a sort of a deeper dive through each of the facilities, the plus minuses on them, or, you know, where do you see positioning these facilities over the next five years?

So, Paul, I think there's a couple of different business elements that need to be recognized. Our specialty pay for business is really solid, and we're very comfortable with that. Likewise, with our unbleached craft business, we've positioned that in some specialty markets, tried to avoid the commodity side of the business as much as possible. And that speaks largely to the PG and intercom combination. We are looking at some of the investments that we're going to have to make to continue to meet the performance there. But we like that side of the business, which then brings us back to the MBSK side of the business. What we see there is that Canfor Pulp has positioned itself and will continue to do so as a specialty product or a supplier within a specialty product. We are able to make a very high-strength, NBSK higher than the general case. And so we'll continue to leverage that. To continue to do that in a reliable fashion, we're likely going to have to step up to a steady capital, you know, sustainable capital investment in those facilities. But that's going to be moderated by the market conditions. We like where our balance sheet is today. I'm not excited about adding any form of debt. And so what we'll do is we'll balance the market conditions with investment opportunities. They're really driven around improving sustainability in our place in the cost curve.

Okay.

Yeah, no, I really like that, especially the paper business.

And I sort of value that $100 million. I just don't understand what the – what do you think investors are not seeing in the pulp business to value it, you know, where it is and – You know, how do you expect to increase that awareness going forward?

Well, I think, you know, the way we'll get the attention of the investment community is to get to a more regular operation where we've got reliable results that represent the market conditions that are in place. And so we really need to focus on the performance of the assets we have and the condition that they are and continue to look for good opportunities to invest both in terms of people and assets.

Okay, and then maybe, Don, turning it back to you, you've been out there for a while now and know just about all the players in North America on the softwood lumber file. Not that you need the cash, but I'm just curious as to what sort of things need to occur to broker a deal between each side, and is that something that CAMFOR is pursuing? Yeah, I mean, good question, Paul. I mean, I think You know, we've had, I will say, we've had, you know, a number of meetings probably over the last, you know, I don't know, four to five months. But at the end, and you've heard, of course, probably that our Minister of Foreign Affairs has had some meetings, or Trade Minister, excuse me, has had some meetings with USPR, with Catherine Tsai, and with Commerce, and all of that. And it came across pretty optimistic, but when at the end of the day, our view is we haven't really made any progress. I think it's a lot of talk, which maybe is always good, and we've heard you know, some of the comments from NAHP and other consumer groups and so forth. But I guess our view, despite all of that, I still think it's very hard to get this topic on the radar screen on either administration with all the global events going on. It's been tough before, never mind now. And so my view is, our view would be collectively, maybe even from an industry point of view, that, you know, it's still a ways away in our view before we make any material progress there at all. But I will say, though, I mean, it's not to say that we are not all, you know, talk about it and understand company by company what I think would be acceptable if we ever did get to that. But, you know, just to be ready if we do get asked to get involved again by either of the governments. But right now, I still see that as, you know, it's not something that's really on the radar screen in a big way from either side, either from the U.S. or from Canada. Okay, and can you share any updates on where we are in the WTO or NAFTA processes to be able to, you know, maybe force this resolution? Yeah, in both cases, not really any progress there either. And, you know, I wouldn't even be able to comment on that. But, you know, we talked about that. We had our lawyers from Washington and gave us an update, all of the BC Lumber Trade Council group about maybe six weeks ago. And really from their standpoint and including the sunset clause and all the different things you hear about, really nothing's really expected to change materially on any of those fronts right now from what I understand. All right. That's all I had. That's all I got to say. Thanks, Paul. Good to talk to you. See you.

Thank you. There are no further questions. I'll now turn it over to Don Cain for closing remarks. Please go ahead, Mr. Cain.

Thanks, Operator, and thanks to everyone for joining the call this morning. And we'll look forward to talking to you at the end of Q3 and have a good rest of the summer. Thank you.

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