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2/11/2026
Thank you for standing by. My name is Carly and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the first Quantum Minerals Q4 2025 results conference call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, press star one again. Thank you. I will now turn the call over to Ms. Benita To, Director, Investor Relations, and Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
Thank you, Operator, and thank you, everyone, for joining us today to discuss our fourth quarter results. During the call, we will be making forward-looking statements. As such, I encourage you to read the cautionary notes that accompany this presentation, our MD&A, and the related news release. As a reminder, the presentation is available on our website and that all dollar references are in U.S. dollars unless otherwise noted. On today's call are Tristan Paschal, our Chief Executive Officer, Ryan McWilliam, our Chief Financial Officer, and Rudy Battenhorst, our Chief Operating Officer. And with that, I will hand the call over to Tristan for opening remarks. Thank you.
Thank you, Benita. And thank you, everybody, for joining us today. to discuss our fourth quarter and year end results. We entered 2025 with four clear priorities and our steady delivery on these throughout the year has now positioned us well for a strong 2026. Firstly, we set out to strengthen our balance sheet and enhance our financial flexibility. And this was achieved through the support of our investors in a series of bond transactions that extended the company's debt maturities, and reduced our cost of capital. Additionally, we completed a $1 billion streaming transaction with Royal Gold that also represents the largest US corporate investment in Zambia to date. Our hedging program, which we put in place in 2024, fulfilled its intended role as risk mitigation on which Ryan will speak in his financial review. Our next priority, safe and productive operational performance, remains a continued focus, and the company achieved its 2025 production targets, which Rudy will cover in his operational review. Also a priority in 2025 was the execution and delivery of the S3 expansion project at Consanchi. I'm very pleased with our progress at S3, which achieved a major milestone with the declaration of commercial production last December. And I will speak in more detail on this towards the end of my prepared remarks. Our fourth priority continues to be achieving a long-term resolution for Cobra Panama. Whilst we await the start of formal discussions with the government of Panama on this matter, we have made meaningful progress on the preservation and safe management plan to ensure the assets remain in good condition and the site is safely and well environmentally managed. During the fourth quarter, Unit 2 at the power plant was successfully hot-commissioned and synchronised to the grid. The unit achieved its full design capacity of 150 MW output in December, reflecting the effectiveness of the maintenance program undertaken at site over the past two years. The plant is currently operating steadily at an average output of around 120 MW, consistent with the site's power requirements and broader national grid demand. The remaining unit, Unit 1, moved into commissioning in early February and is performing according to expectations. Subsequent to quarter end, in January, the President of Panama announced that the government would approve the removal, processing and export of stockpiled ore at Cobra Panama. It is important to emphasise that processing of the ore stockpiles a restart of mining operations and processing of this material is intended to address environmental and operational risks linked to the long-term stockpile storage, such as acid rock drainage, while also supplying necessary material for reinforcement of our tailings management facility. We continue to await formal approvals. However, on a preliminary basis, we expect that processing of the stockpiles could begin roughly three months after receiving one year to complete. From the stockpile, we estimate production of approximately 70,000 tonnes of copper, and this activity would support the costs of ongoing asset and environmental management at the mine. We are pleased with the government's decision to authorise the processing of the stockpiles. Alongside allowing proper environmental stewardship, this will generate significant income for the country and create jobs for over 1,000 additional Panamanians. along with broader indirect employment across local procurement, such as equipment supply, transportation, logistics, camp and food services. We continue to await the formal approvals for removal and processing of the stockpiles, which will be carried out in close coordination with the government of Panama and in full compliance with our preservation and safe management plan. It is important to reiterate The resources at Cobra Panama belong to the people of Panama. We remain committed to dialogue to achieve an amicable and durable resolution of the mine for the country and the Panamanian people. In parallel, the integral audit conducted by SGS commenced in the fourth quarter. Our team in Panama continues to cooperate fully with the audit, providing all We welcome the audit and we are confident that it will confirm that Cobra Panama has always operated at the highest environmental standards. The integral audit is expected to be concluded in April 2026. Separate to the integral audit and as part of our ESI obligations, the authorities continued with the statutory biannual audits of Cobra Panama's compliance. We are pleased to share that the most recently published audit achieved 100% compliance. The latest external order field phase was completed in November and we expect a final report during the first quarter. I will now pass the call to Rudy for his operational review.
Thank you Tristan. We are happy to have closed out 2025 achieving our revised guidance ranges. For the year we achieved copper production of 396,000 tonnes within the revised copper guidance range, while annual gold production of 152,000 ounces and annual nickel production of 23,000 tons were above the top ends of the respective revised guidance ranges. Looking to 2026, we remain focused on cost management and safe operational execution across all our sites. During the fourth quarter, Total copper production was approximately 100,000 tons, a 4% decrease from the previous quarter, and Sentinel continued to be impacted by bolt fatigue maintenance and rainy season power interruptions. Copper sales were strong at 108,000 tons, exceeding production by approximately 8,000 tons. At Kansanshi, we delivered a solid quarter with 48,000 tons of copper, up 774 tons from the previous quarter. This improvement was driven by a successful ramp-up of S3 expansion, which contributed to higher overall mold throughput. Notably, the site achieved record monthly mold tons in October. Following successful commissioning and strong performance across all key production indicators, S3 declared commercial production as of December 1st. The crushing and milling circuit performed well, with significant improvements in stability and uptime as enhancements to the conveyor routes took effect. Wokon Tiling Storage Facility 2 is progressing well and remains on track for completion in the second quarter of this year. In 2026, Kansanshi is expected to produce 175,000 to 205,000 tons of copper and 110,000 to 120,000 ounces of gold. Of this, S3 is expected to contribute over 84,000 tons of copper, sourced evenly from low-grade stockpiles and fresh ore from the southeast dome. At Sentinel, copper production totaled 48,000 tons in Q4, a reduction of 3,000 tons from the previous quarter. This decrease was due to lower throughput and lower grades. Throughput was impacted by ongoing maintenance related to bulk fatigue on ball mill 2, while grades were affected by a higher proportion of material from stage three. Looking ahead of 2022-2026, production at Sentinel is expected to be between 190 and 220,000 tons of copper. The operational focus will continue to be on increasing throughput and improving consistency through optimization of blast fragmentation, maintaining stable crushed ore stockpile volumes, improving milling rates, and the flotation recovery. Grades are expected to strengthen modestly as we access previously sterilized Stage 1 and Stage 2 ore following the crusher relocations. Stage 4 ore is expected to come online in the second half of this year. Regarding Bore Mill 2, in collaboration with the original equipment manufacturer and specialist consultants, we have established a long-term fatigue management strategy. We will continue managing the fatigue through this year with full remedial work planned for the first half of 2027 when new parts become available. This approach ensures ongoing performance while enabling a permanent solution through next year's planned upgrade. Enterprise delivered excellent performance, achieving record quarterly production of 9,000 tons of nickel, a 52% increase from quarter three. This improvement was driven by improved recoveries and mining of fresh, higher-grade sulfide zones at lower elevations in the bottom of the pit. For 2026, Enterprise is expected to produce 30,000 to 40,000 tons of contained nickel. Our focus at Enterprise remains on maximizing ore supply, improving communication efficiency, and maintaining an optimum run-of-mine stockpile to support blending and stable throughput. Great control drilling will continue to help reduce dilution and improve recoveries. At Cobbree Panama, we continued detailed inspections and preservation activities during the quarter. Working closely with the regional equipment manufacturer teams, we completed reviews of the ultra-class haul trucks, production drills, and row troughs. Their findings are being integrated into our ongoing preservation strategies to ensure equipment is to ensure equipment integrity and future reliability. Thank you. With that, I'll hand the call over to Ryan for his financial review.
Thank you, Rudy. Starting with commodity markets, which ended the year on a buoyant note, a sentiment which has continued into 2026. During Q4, the copper price averaged $5.03 per pound, peaking at $5.71, a strong performance driven by both supply and demand. On the supply side, four of the world's top 20 largest copper mines are currently running at reduced production. And on the demand side, copper stockpiles continue to grow in the U.S. due to the threat of potential tariffs on future imports. We would note that it is important in times like these where prices start to rise that we remain laser-focused on costs. This helps avoid the margin compression that can occur as the benefit of stronger commodity prices on the revenue line are offset by a rising cost base. In this respect, it is helpful that despite generally strong commodity markets, oil prices remain fairly subdued with resilient U.S. and OPEC production keeping the market well supplied. Turning to our fourth quarter results, revenue was up 10% quarter over quarter, underpinned by higher metal prices. This drove a 7% increase in EBITDA and a $73 million improvement in net earnings. Copper C1 costs rose by 13% to $2.21 per pound, reflecting the lower production that Rudy spoke to, along with higher power, labor, and maintenance costs. All price tailwinds resulted in elevated byproduct credits, providing a $0.14 offset. The enterprise quarterly nickel all-in sustaining costs came in at $3.96 per pound against nickel prices, which averaged $7. These strong margins are a reminder of the high-grade nature of the enterprise nickel sulfide ore body. Nickel prices were depressed for much of last year, with the market being in surplus, but have recently rallied following production cuts announced in Indonesia. At Cobra Panama, the P&SM program continues to incur between $15 and $17 million per month to support the environmental stewardship of the mine and local procurement. $45 million was incurred in Q4, and $400 million has been spent since the mine was placed on P&SM. Operating costs to process the stockpiled ore will cost between $12 and $12.50 per ton mill. Upfront cash investment will be required, with cash outflows peaking at around $250 million. On the basis that formal approval is received shortly for the stockpiles, we would expect to be broadly cash flow neutral by year end at Cobra Panama, inclusive of P&SM costs. Further, on Karen maintenance, the sale of Las Cruces both simplifies our portfolio and delivers approximately $30 million in annual cost savings. while paving the way for development of the project under a new owner. On the balance sheet, it is pleasing to announce our new syndicated term loan and revolving credit facility. This frees up about $360 million of liquidity in this year while also securing a larger RCF and extending both maturities to 2029. The refinancing process has underscored the strong backing we continue to receive from our banks. with the participation of several new lenders in a highly oversubscribed transaction. The availability of the facilities is subject to customary closing conditions. Furthermore, we've also announced a new $1.35 billion 10-year unsecured bond offering this morning. And lastly, I'm pleased to highlight that this week the rating agency S&P has moved our B rating to a positive outlook, recognizing our progress in strengthening the balance sheet and their positive expectations on the return of Cobra Panama later this year. Moving on to guidance. Across the three-year guidance period, we've lifted our COPPA C1 and all-in-cost guidance ranges to reflect the updated production guidance, higher costs, and the incorporation of inflationary pressures, which are somewhat offset by stronger gold prices. These higher costs are driven by the appreciation of the QACHA, the Zambian Collective Bargaining Agreements, and increased maintenance across Sentinel and Kansanshi. Both copper C1 and oiling costs trend downwards across the three-year guidance period, as production improves with higher grades expected to be fed into the Kansanshi S3 circuit from the new Southeast Dome fit. While cash cost guidance in 2026 and 2027 benefited from higher assumed gold prices, Guelmigrain gold sales will no longer be treated as byproduct credits. as gold production is expected to pause from Q2 2026. On CapEx guidance, we spent about $240 million less in 2025 than initially guided on, with some of that moving into 2026, such as plan replacements at Consanchi. 2026 guidance also includes added work on Sentinel's Bormall 2, Input Crusher 4 relocation, and a third tailings pipeline. CAPEX reduces over the course of the three-year guidance period, driven by the wind-down of Southeast Doan pre-stripping at Kansanshi, and the completion of Zambian tailings facility works, as well as the crusher installation at Kansanshi and the crusher relocation at Sentinel. On to hedging. The collars that rolled off in Q4 yielded copper and gold hedge losses of $42 million in aggregate. Our 2026 planned copper and gold production both remain roughly 20% hedged for the full year and 50% hedged for the first half of the year. Our current spot prices anticipate losses of around $220 million and $23 million respectively on our copper and gold hedge positions. Hedging has been an important tool in providing us with stability and downside protection during the S3 construction and ramp up. At this stage, our existing hedges expire by mid-year, and we do not anticipate adding more hedges given our strong margins at these copper prices. During the quarter, net debt increased by $441 million to $5.2 billion. This was driven by two key factors. Firstly, an increase in working capital as accounts receivable increased due to late shipments in December. And secondly, the sharp rise in copper prices at the year-end necessitated higher margin deposits associated with our short-term customer QP hedges. Both of these are expected to unwind through the current quarter at stable copper prices. Liquidity remains very strong at $1.9 billion, comprising of $644 million in cash and a fully undrawn credit revolve of $1.3 billion a quarter rep. In short, we close the year with support of copper and gold markets, a disciplined cost management approach, a strengthened balance sheet, and solid liquidity, positioning us very well for 2026. I will now hand the call back to Tristan.
Thank you, Ryan. Over the last two years, it has been a highlight of my prepared remarks to speak on the progress at S3. review going forward i am extremely proud of our delivery of the consangie s3 expansion project this has been a product of huge collaborative effort across our projects and operations teams and a supportive investment climate delivered by the governor of zambia as rudy noted the s3 expansion delivered strong performance across all key production indicators which supported the declaration of commercial production Broadly speaking, while several metrics were considered, commercial production was declared once S3 demonstrated consistent performance at 90% of its design capacity. This was accomplished within five months of initial production. This is a significant achievement for a project of this size. At a throughput capacity of 25 million tonnes per annum, S3 is one of the largest global brownfield copper projects delivered in the successful outcome. In terms of new project opportunities at First Quantum, I am pleased to announce that we will be shortly releasing an updated 43-101 technical report for the Takataka project later this month. Takataka is one of the world's largest undeveloped copper assets and Argentina is emerging as an increasingly competitive mining jurisdiction. Supported by recent Globally, there are several growth projects being advanced to address the anticipated supply deficit in the copper market. However, I firmly believe that First Quantum is uniquely positioned to deliver on this growth. We expect Taka Taka to follow First Quantum's tested and proven design and construction approach of large-scale sag mill processing trains with expansion optionality. Taka Taka will involve, for example, installation of First Quantum's seventh and eighth sag mill at a 40-foot size, and we'll leverage from the company's extensive experience in development and operations at Sentinel, Cobra Panama, and most recently, the S3 expansion at Kansanshi. We look forward to sharing the updated technical report, which represents an important step in de-risking the project as we continue to advance the ESIA, prepare our rigging application, and evaluate the optimal financing strategy for the project. Whilst Takataka is important to First Quantum's long-term growth options, and similarly this year we will also advance the Lagraha and Hekira projects on their own merits, I want to clearly state that our priorities for this year 2026 remain, firstly, progressing towards resolution in Cobra Panama, secondly, to ensure continued safety S3 expansion project, and thirdly, to strengthen the balance sheet to ensure that the company is well positioned to support future growth. We had meaningful achievements in our priorities for 2025, and I'm extremely proud and grateful for the dedication of the entire I am confident in the outlook for First Quantum because of the deep talent pool within the company, our meaningful participation and long-term relationships in our host countries, and the growing strategic importance of copper. Thank you, operator. I'm happy to open the line for questions.
At this time, I would like to remind everyone in order to ask a question, press star, then the number one on your telephone keypad. We'll pause for just a moment to compile the Q&A roster. Your first question comes from Ralph Profitti with Stifel.
Thanks operator and good morning team. Tristan and Rudy, when it comes to the potential for the same remedial work and permanent solutions that you're seeking in ball mill number two at Sentinel, transferring that over into ball mill number one, are you going to wait for the review to make that conclusion, and when will that review be concluded?
Yeah, thanks very much for the question, Ralph. Rudy, do you want to take that one?
Yeah, no problem. Hi, Ralph. The final repairs to Bormal 2, as established with the OEM and ourselves, will take place in the first half of 2027. Now, we have ordered an additional end can and upgraded discharge end, purely to take advantage of the foundry slot that we've had, and we've effectively run with one strategic spare. Walmart One is getting a review principally because it's from the same vendor and no other reason. It is currently performing well, and we do not have any issues with it. I see.
And it looks as though that there's going to be some degree of throttle back on the throughput, but also, Rudy, some of your comments and your pre-prepared comments talked about increasing total throughput as well. Just wondering how you're balancing the two between, you know, risk mitigation and desire to increase throughput.
Rudy? Yes. Thanks, Justin. If we indicated that we will be doing a couple of projects at the end of this year, primarily to de-bottleneck the back end of the circuit. And those relate to the installation of upgraded feed wells to our tailings thickness, but also the installation of a new tailings line and the re-line of an existing one. Effectively, what that does, it helps us to increase throughput through the back end, which is currently the bottleneck. So the first one of those have already been replaced in January. The second one will be replaced this quarter, and the third one during the end of the second quarter, followed by the teleclinic Q3. So de-bottlenecking the circuit allows for the opportunity to increase throughput, albeit maintenance stoppages on BOMWL2.
Your next question is from Oris Wolcodal with Scotiabank.
Hi, good morning. A couple of questions on Cobra Panama, please. You mentioned, Tristan, that the company's yet to start formal discussions on a new agreement in Panama. Can you give us an idea of what the hurdles are? Are you just basically waiting for the completion of the environmental audit? Is that expected to kick the process off?
Hi, Orest. Thanks. I think in Panama, since the middle of last year, you've seen concrete milestones passing, and that revolves around approval of the Preservation and Safe Management Plan, export of the concentrate, the restart of the power plant, and the commencement of the environmental audits. And then most recently, the announcement by the President that the government will approve the removal of the stockpiles and processing associated with that. Looking forward, the President has made announcements around dealing with the matters at Cobra Panama, and I think as you point out, the environmental audit is one of the key elements in that timetable. So we do expect the audit will be completed in April. We'll have to assess the next steps and timing from there, but certainly that does seem to be one of the key elements in terms of the pathway from here.
Okay, thank you. And as a follow-up, thank you for the disclosure around some of the partial restart costs here to turn on one mill train to process these ore stockpiles, the 230 to 280 million range. I'm just curious, is that a good rule of thumb in terms of incremental costs to eventually restart all the mill trains?
Yeah, Oris, it's a little bit of a moving target at the moment because You can paint different scenarios to restart around the timing and ramp up of that in terms of stage of approvals. But if we follow a pathway, well, if we just look at the stockpiles and the restart of the plant is important, also in terms of feed to the tailings dam and being able to cope with high rainfall and erosion and so on that we do get on the tailings dam. If we just look at that, it's probably three months to get that moving and it would be on the basis of the cost that we outlined there around $12 to $12.50 per tonne milled and hence those capital costs that you refer to there. If something else comes through in terms of timetable and We don't have that clear as yet. That would shift around disclosure from the government of Panama around that.
Your next question comes from Chris Lasmina with Jefferies.
Hi, thanks, operator. Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my question. So I just wanted to ask about the overall unit cost guidance. You guys have a lot of operational improvements that you're going to be delivering across the portfolio over the next couple of years. If I look at Sentinel, for example, where you're commissioning the rail run conveyor system, you're expanding the trolley assist network, you're expecting slightly higher grades, volumes across the business are going to be rising, which should lead to some fixed cost dilution. Yet your unit cost guidance is effectively at the middle of the guidance range. You're basically guidance costs being flat over the next few years. And I'm wondering, you know, Is there potential for costs to be significantly lower than what you're guiding to? Is your guidance conservative? And if not, I'm wondering what are the offsetting inflationary factors? And you mentioned some of the cost inflation that you're seeing in the business now, but I'm wondering what the inflationary factors are that you're kind of baking into your assumptions here where those inflationary factors are offsetting the benefits of some of these operational improvements that you guys are expected to deliver. Thank you.
Thanks, Chris. Hi. And I'm sure Ryan will add comment, but just, I mean, big picture, the trade-off at Sentinel is between volume and you're seeing the throughput, you're seeing the effort that's being put in there to deliver throughput. And you're seeing that in terms of the front end of the plants and the dry plant pushing there. And as Rudy mentioned, the bottlenecking in the back end to continue that trend. We have had, you know, that is offset by and also open up stage four over the next year, couple of years, you know, we'll be able to offset that grade and we'll see good material come through. On the cost side, it's really a story around, you know, commodity inflation, as Ryan points out, and labour. But, Ryan, do you have anything else to add there?
Sure. Thanks for the question, Chris. So we do see cost guidance fall, albeit fairly slightly, through the three-year period from $1.95 to $2.20 or 2026, down to $1.85 to $2.10 in 2028. And in terms of the swings and roundabouts there, as Tristan notes, We will, in 2028, we actually see slightly weaker production from Sentinel due to lower grades that year, which somewhat offsets the fact by that at that stage, we expect to be fully feeding S3 from Southeast Dome higher grade materials. So some positives and negatives on the production side there and similar on the cost side where we're seeing strong gold byproduct credits, albeit our gold price guidance is potentially conservative. It's quite a lot below current spot prices. The flip side is we're seeing a stronger kwacha in Zambia as they make continued progress with reforming their economy, the kwacha now sub 20 kwacha to the dollar that has impacts on our labor costs and slightly higher contract and maintenance costs through the period. We've also been cautious and fairly conservative in our electricity cost guidance, where we assume through most of the guidance period that we'll continue to buy power from external sources. And if we see stronger rainfalls in Zambia and we move more back to the ZESCO contract as a portion, that will be another cost tailwind through the period relative to what we have in our guidance.
That's very helpful. Thank you. Good luck, guys.
Your next question comes from Cody Hayden with Deutsche Bank. Cody, your line is open.
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Yes, please go ahead.
Great, thank you and apologies for that. Two questions for me, if I may. First, considering greenfield projects and specifically Takataka, you kind of alluded to it earlier, but does Cobra Panama need to be up and running before you consider any major new investments here or stay at any other greenfield projects? And then second, given the ongoing activity in the sector, are you seeing any interest in your assets at the project partnership level, say beyond JV with Real? Thank you.
Hi, Cody. Thanks for those questions. Yeah, look, so our progress on Takataka this year will be on the project's own merits. And what I mean by that is, you know, we will pursue the RIGI application. Well, first, as a reference, we'll be releasing the Takataka, the 43-101 technical report very shortly this month, we expect. And then that builds a pathway towards RIGI application. In the meantime and around that timetable, we'd like to see the ESIA and the water permitting come through, and really that builds an underlying pathway to explore financing options. I think Cobra Panama is important to that, but we do need to make progress on those on their own standing. The balance sheet and our financial capacity is also important to that, but again, the you know, that we're able to progress the project on the own merits, you know, the market does appear strong in terms of supporting that, and we'd like to progress it and see where that gets to. You know, RIGI is a timetable, and we're anticipating that timetable as well. But balancing all of that through, we have a clear plan, and it revolves around, you and something that meets the expectations of Argentina. And again, while also reflecting the stronger investment climate in Argentina. In terms of interest around the project, around our projects, we wouldn't speculate on that too much other than to say, I think that, you know, buy versus build is a strong challenge and, you know, pipeline where you have options to be able to develop copper projects in the very near future, and the capacity to do that when the execution capability that is, for example, available at First Quantum is hard to find. We're taking a team that built Sentinel, that built Cobra Panama, that has just completed S3. They're currently looking at the maintenance and the preservation of Cobra Panama. And all of that lends itself to a capacity to look at something like Takataka or indeed La Graja in the long term. And that's just not readily available out there in terms of their execution capability.
Your next question comes from Miles Alsop with UBS.
Just a few quick questions. Maybe just a bit of clarity on that last Takataka question. What's the best case for FID if we going to put Cobra Panama aside, but in terms of getting Rigi through and then the environmental and water permits, is best case kind of early 2027, or is it going to take longer? That's the first question.
Thanks, Myles. Look, our main focus is de-risking, but Ryan, do you want to comment further on that?
Sure. Hi, Myles. I mean, to be clear, before Cobra Panama was placed on P&SM, Our priority focus as a company was on debt reduction. Nothing has changed in that regard. So we continue to be focused on debt reduction. It's pleasing that despite COVID Panama being on P&ASM over the last two years, we've actually made progress in debt reduction. But that continues to be the focus. As Tristan said, pleasing to have a variety of growth options within the portfolio, but those need to come in due course as we focus on deleveraging the balance sheet. Clearly, strong commodity prices help in that respect. Clearly, if Cobra Panama comes back online, that would help, but we're not yet at the point where we're talking to specific timing milestones for approving Taka Taka because we first need to work through that deleveraging pathway that's ahead of us.
Okay. And the second question maybe just related to that as well, Ryan, in terms of the balance sheet. I mean, where do you want to get to? Is it investment grade kind of metrics? Is there a net debt target? Do you kind of think job done, let's kind of pivot the focus?
I don't think miles are ever going to be complacent on the balance sheet, and I don't think I'll ever be job done. What we've talked to is being responsible and prudent in managing the balance sheet. A big part of that is looking to work with others on our project. A good example of that was the partnership at Magrania, which was referenced in the previous question. So when we do get to these future project goals, we don't put all of that on our balance sheet. We finished last year at 3.3 times net debt to EBITDA. And we've generally talked about you want to be around or below the one times net debt to EBITDA before you start a next Greenfield project goal. That being said, tucker-tucker at the moment, the work is really focused around de-risking the project. We're focused around bolstering the balance sheet, and we'll make decisions in due course when that moment comes. But we're not there yet, and we don't expect to be there in the near term.
Your next question comes from Marcio Farid with Goldman Sachs.
Thank you. Good morning, everyone. A couple of follow-ups on my side. Maybe first on Panama. You obviously provided some details around cost and capex to start the dealing process, which is great. Just wondering if you have an estimate in terms of total capex for a full restart as well, including on the mining side. And if you can comment on how the momentum has been for the units to We started the power plants, obviously not as relevant, but just to try and understand the state of the preservation of equipment. And then maybe secondly, you know, Las Cruces just got sold a few months back. Just wondering if you want to, you know, there's consideration to settle other minor operations as well and to focus on the core operations, Zander, Panama, and eventually Argentina and Peru as well. Thank you.
Hi, Marcio. Thank you for that question. And we'll try and cover all of that. So firstly, on cost to restart for the full possibility of restart in Panama. Look, I think it's, again, we're following a process in Panama that will be governed by the president and by the government of Panama. It requires transparency and engagement, and that is our focus. The stockpile restart as we spoke about there. I think there's a good amount of disclosure there to paint that picture. But in terms of restart beyond that, it's really around working capital deployments, and it will depend on the condition in the plant. We've been doing a lot of work in that preservation safe management to make sure that areas are in good condition. But we haven't been... So we've certainly looked after the big major assets really well, the mills, you know, the major elements, rope shovels and so on. But there will be work to do on small wall piping, on reticulation pumping, you know, these kind of elements. And so getting to grips with that, you know, is the major area in the plant. And then working capital of getting suppliers in Panama re-established credit terms around their employees, local Panamanians coming to work and so on is where the million in that range. How much of that is borne out in the stockpiles versus a restart down the track will have to come to bear. In terms of the power plant that needs to restart, it's really been pretty neutral because it's selling power into the grid, but the fuel cost at the moment is at a higher level, and so generally it comes out roughly neutral. We haven't seen any large major capex in that area. Our main focus was on the boiler and making sure that that was in good condition. It was nitrogen filled. And there were some areas where we did some work on the soot blowers, erosion on the soot blowers that was present. But that wasn't major in terms of capital work. That's the kind of level of work that went into it. I think by and large, the team's done a fantastic job of looking after that asset. that we've seen on Unit 2, and we're now switching over to Unit 1. It's already in hot commissioning, as we stated, and we're working through that unit. On Las Cruces and that sale, maybe, Ryan, if you take over from there on that question around asset sales and other operations.
Hi, Marcia. We're pleased to conclude the Las Cruces sale in Q4. Obviously, that had been in the mix for a long time. So to have that completed is pleasing. One, because it further simplifies our portfolio. Two, it removes the $30 million of care and maintenance costs per year that we were bearing. And three, it allows that project to be developed under a new owner for the benefit of the team there, for the benefit of Andalusia and Spain more broadly. Beyond that, we're not proactively looking to sell any of our other assets. But of course, when it comes to some last smaller assets, we'll always assess what makes sense for shareholders. We're pleased that at Guelb, we see strong EBITDA driven by the gold price. And maybe referencing a question that Chris asked earlier, why we see our cost guidance increase through the next couple of years. Part of that is just because Guelb is becoming purely a gold mine. We therefore don't get the byproduct credits. As a byproduct, we just get them in as additional revenue. So we don't see it in our C1 numbers, but we certainly see the benefit of Guelva in our cash flows. And then lastly on Shiley, that's been one of the real success stories in First Quantum over the last 12 months in terms of the extension to the mine life. So we're pleased that both those assets are part of the portfolio. But as other people externally expressed interest, we'll always make an assessment as to what serves our shareholders best.
Your next question comes from Lawson Winder with Bank of America.
Thank you, operator, and hello, Tristan, Rudy, and Ryan. On Takataka, you noted that there'll be a feasibility study update in Q1 of this year. So, first of all, do we expect that will be filed in Q1, 2026? And then, are there any changes to the scope of any aspects at all of the project that will be part of that updated TR?
Hi, Lawson. Thanks for the question. Yeah, look, Taka Taka remains a strong project on its own merits, and we're seeing that the investment climate in Argentina is really developing. The reason for the technical report now, and it will be, we expect it later this month inside Q1, is part of the application for RIGI. And as you point out there, you know, painting a clear picture of the engineering study for what the project can look like. Beyond that, in terms of scope and otherwise, I wouldn't want to steal from that report and the impact of that, but there isn't any major change in scope or otherwise. It remains a robust project that extends on beyond 40 years and with inferred resources towards 70 years. It continues to be a project that will, in the first 10 years, deliver very strong copper production. And then after 10 years, there's reason for it paints pretty clearly what is an asset that is one of the strongest potential projects for copper in the world in a region now that's attracting a high level of interest in terms of investment.
Fantastic. If I could ask one more question, it would just be on the Consanche stream that you guys signed in August. That's worked really well. It's done a lot to shore up the balance sheet. Now that your debt metrics have improved and are continuing to improve, how do you think about prioritizing the buyback of the 30% interest in that, particularly in light of the higher gold price?
Thanks, Lawson. That's a great question. Ryan, do you want to take that one?
Sure. We liked the stream from a financial perspective when we entered into it but we also liked it from a structural perspective the fact that it was equity rather than debt the fact that the copper price we get paid will increase over time and most importantly that there was a buyback option we were able to embed into it so lawson we still have to make more progress on deleveraging there are leverage thresholds that we have to meet in order to exercise that buyback option. We don't expect to meet those in 2026, but certainly as we come into 2027, we hope to be in a position to exercise initially the 20% buyback and ultimately the second buyback, which is for an incremental 10%.
Your next question comes from Anita Soni with CIBC. Hi. Good morning, Tristan and team.
Thanks for taking my question. I just wanted to get a little bit more color on the question Marcio asked because I was going to ask that as well. So the restart cost for the entire project, I know you don't want to get ahead of yourself, but it sounded like you were saying around $300 million to $500 million total. And would that include the $230 million to $280 million that you just announced, or would that be additional?
Yeah, Anita, we don't want to get ahead of ourselves. It's important to follow the pathway. And there is a headline on that in terms of the president announcing that beyond the environmental audit coming back in April, but we'll have to assess those next steps and the timing from there. And it will require engagement. It requires transparency. And with a broader population in Panama and processing would net off against that, so the $300,000 to $500,000 would include the $250,000 to $280,000.
Okay. And then just a question on the $12 to $1,250 per ton in processing costs. Could you help frame that in dollars per pound? Does that include you know, your GNA and TCR seeds. And I understand there will be some non-cash components because this ore has already been mined. But I'm just looking for sort of the cash component of what would be in dollars per pound.
Brian, do you have that to hand?
I don't have that to hand. Sure. We expect it to be around $2.19 per pound. the pound from a cost unit cost perspective. And what we would expect is at the moment we're incurring around 15 to $17 million in PSNM costs at Cobra Panama. Once we receive formal approval for the stockpiles, we would expect to produce around 70,000 tons of copper. And the sales from that would contribute towards the PNSM and other environmental related activities that are ongoing at site. And we would end the year broadly cash neutral at Cobra Panama.
Your next question comes from Ian Russell with Barclays.
Thank you. Just a follow-up on Cover Panama and around the operational readiness and some of the comments you made at the site visit last year. If you do get approvals to start treating the stockpiles, does that change the operational readiness for the eventual restart? Obviously, I understand these two are two separate processes, but can you actually... test switch between the processing trains and ultimately be able to restart the entire plant once that decision comes much quicker than previously expected.
Thanks Ian. So our focus on the stockpile restart will be environmental and that is removing that material that does have some acid rock drainage elements and pushing that through one circuit of the process plant at Cobra Panama. So our focus is around that. We do have the opportunity to cycle through the trains and I think that's useful in terms of ensuring good preservation and safe management practices. The common areas obviously are needed for one or for three trains. So that's the cleaner circuit, The focus will be environmental and the cyclone plant gives us the opportunity to produce the sands that are needed at the tailings dam in order to ensure that we can deal with erosion and so on that's built up over the last two years. So that's the focus. But having the plant in a condition that's able to run on one train solidly and cycle through the trains I think is overall good in terms of ensuring the ability of the plan to start up well in the event that we get to that.
Okay, great. And then just to follow up on Taka Taka, just Ryan's comments around the balance sheet and I guess the priority to the key of the balance sheet and your comments around divers as well, Justin, is ultimately the sort of options around funding when you get to that decision, will you look at the balance sheet and decide whether I guess if you funded a loan or you consider a stake sale, obviously value will be one option to consider. But do you actually think of sort of Panama, I'm sorry, Argentina as a sort of from a risk mitigation perspective, it would make sense to sell? Or are you just trying to think how you would think about the funding options at that stage once you get to that?
Yeah. Thanks, Ian. Look, again, the reason to be progressing the technical report is it's part of the RIGI process, and that's important. There's some deadlines around that, and we're conscious of those. It also underlines the opportunities when we come to looking at funding options. But again, our priority is on co-repairing. getting the balance sheet into the right position. In terms of progressing the project on its own merits, so if I put those two elements aside and just look at the project and progress it on its own merits is appropriate. That is, push forward, lodge the RIGI application, get the 43-101 out, which is the pathway for RIGI application, look at options around financing, what could be done, the market is looking at Argentina more and there's opportunity in that in terms of making progress on that. But again, we have a clear milestones there around the balance sheet and around Cobra Panama that lead into that. In terms of broader opportunities in the business to make Argentina happy happen, we'll look through opportunities number of tools in the toolkit in terms of looking at, and we've used those, for example, at Kansanshi on the Gold Stream. We've been deploying those tools, but really this is about making sure that Takataka, on its own merits, begins to stand as a project, which we believe it is, which is really worth looking at and stands up very well compared to any of the other projects future.
Your final question comes from Dalton Barreto with Canaccord Genuity.
Thanks. Good morning, guys. Thanks for squeezing me in. A couple of quick ones, if I may. First on Cobra Panama, Tristan, your disclosure referenced support at 75% to 80% in the communities around the mine. Can you perhaps speak to sort of the broader country, particularly in Panama City, just what your metrics are showing you and maybe where some of the historical opposition is, Sun Trucks, the NGOs, those sorts of things? Thanks.
Thanks, Dalton. Yeah, so that's very much a focus of our activities in Panama. And broader support for the mine is around 50%. some time now, and we see that a key element of it is really around transparency and engagement as to what the process from here looks like and walking through clear pathways. What we are seeing is a huge amount of curiosity. So last year, there was some 241,000 engagements one-to-one between people at Panama, our employees, our advocates, you know, people that are speaking directly to the community. And in those, what we hear is a lot of curiosity about the mine, its place. You know, we note, for example, discussion in Panama on the interconnector between Panama and Colombia, and that's a big power line and connection between really to connect all the way to the grid from North America through Mexico and into Costa Rica and Panama for the first time to connect to, you know, You know, that's a huge interconnector for the continent and underlines the impact that electricity can provide in terms of uplifting communities and uplifting standards of living and provide the opportunity for things like data centres, modern technology and opportunity and employment to come through. But of course, interconnectors and electricities require copper. And it's that debate with society around responsibly and in an environmental and with a strong biodiversity program and community programs that's important now in terms of Panama. Again, we're probably 50, 55% in the broader community. We'd like to see that lift up. And what we're seeing is a level of curiosity to understand the mine and understand how Panama can play into what is a global thing.
There are no further questions at this time. I'll now turn the call back to Mr. Tristan Pascal for any closing remarks.
Thanks, Carly, and thank you, everybody, for joining the call. We're looking forward to a strong 2026. I hope you have a great day. Thank you.
This concludes today's conference call. Thank you all for participating. You may now disconnect.
