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11/13/2025
Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the GDI Integrated Facility Services 3rd Quarter 2025 Resilience Conference Call. At this time, all lines are in listen-only mode. Following the presentation, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. If at any time during this call you require immediate assistance, please press star zero for the operator. This call is being recorded on Thursday, November 6th, 2025. I would like to turn the conference over to Mr. Charlie Tien-Jarroir, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Please go ahead.
Thank you, operator. Good morning, all, and welcome to GDI's conference call to discuss our results for the third quarter of fiscal 2025. My name is Charles-Etienne Giroir. I am Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer of GDI. I am with Tom Bigrat, President and CEO of GDI, and David Inchey, Executive Vice President of Corporate Development. Before we begin, I would like to make you aware that this call contains forward-looking information and we ask listeners to refer to the full description of the forward-looking Safe Harbor provision that is fully described at the beginning of our MD&A file that was sent out last night. I will begin the call with an overview of GDI financial results for the third quarter of fiscal 2025, and will then invite Claude to provide his comments on the business. In the third quarter, GDI recorded revenue of $615 million, a decrease of $25 million, or 4% over 2024. This is comprised of an organic decline of 2% and a 2% decrease from business disposal in 2024. GDI recorded adjusted EBITDA of $38 million in the quarter, down $1 million from $39 million in Q3 2024, which represents an adjusted EBITDA margin of 6%, remaining consistent with Q3 last year. On a year-to-date basis, revenue reached $1.84 billion, a decrease of $82 million or 4% over the same period of 2024. Year-over-year revenue decline was permanently due to a 4% organic decline in revenue. I just said a bit that in the first nine months of the year amounted to $105 million, an increase of $5 million or 5% over the corresponding period of 2024. Our Business Service Canada segment recorded revenue of $144 million in the third quarter, while generating $10 million in adjusted EBITDA, down $1 million compared to Q3 last year. Adjusted EBITDA margin was 7% compared to 8% in Q3 2024. Our Business Service USA segment recorded revenues of $198 million in Q3, a decrease of 11% over Q3 2024. The segment experienced an organic decline of 12% in Q3, which reflects the paring down of low margin accounts as well as the loss in Q1 2025 of the remaining 20% of a large client loss during Q1 of fiscal 24. In addition, revenue generated from one new customer in 2024 fluctuated based on the volume of recurring project works, which was lower in the third quarter of 2025 compared to last year. The segment reported adjusted EBITDA of $13 million, representing an adjusted EBITDA margin of 7%, an increase of 1% over Q3 last year. The technical service segment recorded revenues of $270 million compared to $269 million in Q3 last year. The segment generated adjusted EBITDA of $19 million, which is $1 million higher than Q3 last year. representing an adjusted EBITDA margin of 7% in both Q3 of 2025 and 2024. Finally, our corporate and other segments reported revenues of $3 million compared to $4 million last year, and no change in negative adjusted EBITDA of $4 million versus Q3 2024. I would like now to turn the call to Claude, who will provide further comments on GDI performance during the quarter.
Well, thank you, Charles-Etienne. Bonjour à tous. and thanks to everyone participating in GDI's Q3 earning conference call. I'm relatively pleased with GDI's performance in Q3 this year, considering our technical service segment is continuing to fire on all cylinders. We recorded an organic growth rate of 4% and a record high adjusted EBITDA of $19 million for the quarter. We were able to deliver very strong results despite that we continued to see some client delay project starts due to some uncertainty in the economy during the quarter. Project backlogs at Hemsworth remain near record high and as do the margins on the backlog. We feel that our business service segment performed well in the face of the headwinds we are seeing in the commercial real estate in Canada and the United States. In Canada, even though our client charges more than double our historic rate of 4%, we managed to limit our organic decline to 1%, while adjusted EBITDA came at $10 million versus $11 million last year. The business is holding up quite well despite the market pressures. Our business service USA segment recorded an organic decline of 12% during the quarter. We are still lapping the loss of the remaining piece of our largest client of Q1 2025. combined with the paring down of low-margin accounts, as Charles-Etienne was stating. We expect organic growth to stabilize during the first half of next year, despite the revenue loss. Adjusted EBITDA increased to 7% in Q3 versus the same quarter last year, as we focus on margin protection and retention going forward and during the quarter. Our outlook for the remaining of the year is in line with what we announced in Q2. We expect some weakness in our business service segment and to a lesser degree in business service USA segment due to the economic uncertainty. We are expecting business in this segment to recover well in the first half of 2026. Our technical service business is performing well and notwithstanding the global economic uncertainty, our outlook remains very positive. GDI had a solid quarter from a balance sheet perspective. We ended the quarter with a $26 million reduction in our long-term debt, net of cash coming from a combination of free cash flow, an $11 million reduction in net operating working cap, and the sales of our non-core property in the province of Quebec for $8 million. Our leverage ratio sits comfortably in the mid-twos, which give us plenty of ammunition to fund on our growth strategy. GDI outlook for M&A is positive, as we are dedicated to continue to go to acquisitions, and we're satisfied with the market adjustments we see in multiples, so that makes our activities more promising. I would like to thank our shareholder for the patience and support, and all of my team members at GDI are working very hard to deliver results, but are focused on the long term to manage the business. Operator, please feel to open the line to questions for analysts.
Thank you, Mr. Bigrat. Ladies and gentlemen, we now begin the question and answer session. If you'd like to ask a question, please press star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. If your question has been answered, you would like to withdraw from the queue, please press star followed by the number two. And if you're using a speakerphone, please lift your hands up before pressing any keys. One moment, please, while we compile the roster. Your first question comes from Derek Lassar with TD Cowan. Please go ahead.
Yeah, good morning, gentlemen. Hope you're having a good day.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, Claude, I just have, actually, my question is related to the business services USA segment. I understand the 12% organic decline issue. But I think in previous quarters, you had mentioned that you had several new clients or contracts that were coming on board that would help offset that. Just curious where you are in onboarding those contracts.
Well, listen, you know what? Actually, this year, our sales growth was interesting. Unfortunately, you know, the client loss in end of 2024 and 2025 was a significant loss that needs a lot of work to compensate. We still have this large client, but unfortunately, in the last couple of quarters, the quantity of work that we execute for this client was significantly lower than what we did last year. So again, the strategy is we're focusing on sales. Our sales team is everywhere we go, and we are focusing on sales. Now, this being said, I don't want us to sell at any price. You know, our focus is margin protection. At the end of the day, this is what counts. So we're very, very focused on selling at the right price at the right client.
Okay, that's helpful. And I guess maybe just curious on your thoughts on when you expect to, in the same segment, to restore sort of that historical organic growth. or get back to this historical level?
Well, listen, you know what? There is two parts to this answer. The first part is when we have passed the fourth quarter with our large client lust, with our sales strategy, we'll get back to organic growth in a, I would say, mathematical way. So, again, the strategy, Derek, is to really focus on sales at the right margin and This is the ticket, and growth will come in as we will have eliminated the loss of this large client.
Okay. Thanks, Claude. I'll reach you. Thank you.
Thank you. Your next question comes from Frederick Bastian with Raymond James. Please go ahead.
Bonjour.
Bonjour. Bonjour. Sorry, I missed Charles Etienne's comment, but Claude, you mentioned or commented that you were satisfied with the multiple movement you're seeing for M&A. Can you expand on that? Just wondering how aggressive private equity may be in the sector still.
Okay. I will be very blunt. Maybe my colleagues will look at me with big eyes, but at least I'll give you my honest answer. Okay. What we've seen over the last couple of years is there was COVID. There was, you know, the surge of margins and profitability. Everybody would sell his mother in the trade. And the multiples were just out of my mind. You know, it was almost impossible to do an accretive transaction following COVID. And, you know, there was maybe three major players that were actually very active. And so, you know, But now we passed that. Unfortunately, the three major players are not playing anymore because they've been taken by creditors almost. So that's behind us. But now we are seeing a more going-back-to-normal approach. People have digested that they cannot expect crazy multiples like we've seen as far as two years ago, three years ago. This creates for us an environment where we can entertain discussions that are reasonable. Again, I'm always saying it's when you make the acquisition that you realize the value, not when you sell.
Great. And then as you look forward, which segment are you going to prioritize? I mean, it's a tough question, right? Which child do you prefer? Yeah. You know, would you put more money into age worth these days?
Well, listen, you know what? Let's break it down into three parts because the strategy has some nuance in each part. You know, Business Service Canada, it's sales and organic growth focus. And you know what? If we can extend our service offering through auxiliary service offering that can help us grow the business, we're all for it. In the U.S., again, our sales team is very active. and we see opportunities, like I said, I would say accredited transaction going forward. Now, I don't want to tease people, but I can tell you that we're very active. And the technical service segment is, again, what I said to you guys last year is we're focusing on margin expansion. So far, I think it has delivered on what we were expecting. For sure, if we have good opportunities, we will look at it, but we focus more on the maintenance part instead of the project part. As you've seen, the revenue is a little lower because we went away from those, you know, I would say the humongous project that creates a lot of risk, so we're no longer playing in this place. So I think the margins demonstrate our, I would say... rigor in appraising and delivering on project.
Thanks. My last question, how are you seeing buybacks in light of your share price right now?
Well, listen, we feel it's an opportunity, so we're active on it, and as we go, we still have our NCIB in place, and we are maneuvering according to I would say the arrangement of the NCIB. So yes, for sure.
It's an effective price for us as well. Thank you. I'll turn it over.
Thank you. Your next question comes from Frederic Tremblay with Desjardins. Please go ahead.
Good morning, Mr. Tremblay.
Good morning. Apologies if some of this was already discussed. I joined the call a little late. But on the Business Services USA, can you maybe comment on the sales team's efforts to win new business, including in higher-margin specialized areas like food sanitation and data centers? Has that focus been fruitful so far?
Well, it's delivering. You know what? It's, again, you know, I'm very happy of what the sales team was able to accomplish this year. Mind you that if we had not done that, our margin, not margin, but our top line would have decreased maybe 20%. So we were able to compensate a lot through our aggressive sales. But again, you know, I'm saying it to everyone all the time. We cannot get into the web of selling at discount at these times. We will live with it for four, five, six years. So we sell, but we still need to keep the margin. So as you've seen, although we have a decline in business service, we did better margin-wise than last year. So that's the ticket. But this being said, I'm totally aware that growth is important, and growth will be back, but I want to have a good growth.
Yeah, makes sense. And maybe just on, still in that segment in the US, that one large customer that's seeing quarterly fluctuations in their project work, I imagine that you do have some near-term visibility on the work associated with that customer. Is there anything you can... point us to in regards to Q4 with that customer in particular? Is that still slow or is there a pickup that you're seeing relative to prior quarters?
Well, listen, we were expecting in Q4 that is, you know, I will just say that is a customer that's very active in data centers. So, and the data center business overall is growing and it's active. But since we have all this, everything happening in the U.S., it looks like there was a little bit of a, I would say, downside, a downturn into the operation. But we are very confident that it's, I would say, a short-term or one-time reduction of work, and they will continue to grow.
Okay. Thanks for taking the questions. I'll get back into the queue.
Thank you, sir. Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, as a reminder, if you have any questions, please press star one. Your next question comes from Zachary Evershed with National Bank. Please go ahead. Mr. Zachary, good day.
Good day, Claude. Could you talk us through the customer realignment process and how that impacts your growth trajectory in the next three quarters?
Well, a customer realignment, again,
We are replacing lost business for X, Y, Z number of reasons. And I can share with you that if we were losing customer because of service delivery failure, I'll be a lot more nervous. We're dealing with price adjustments that we feel are not healthy for us long term. But we're replacing this business through having growth our sales force. Again, this is for us, this is a strategy. So the customer realignment comes with acquiring new customers at the right price to continue to deliver on the margin. But we're very active also working with our existing customers to adjust pricing. You know, I don't want to be too technical, but as you may know, there was an inflationary period that is actually taking a token on our labor costs. So the increase in labor costs we're passing to our customer is, you know, significant increases to customers. So we're dealing with our customers to see how we can mitigate that. And so this is, you know, it's a little, how can I say this is, you know, there are periods in the life cycle of a business, you know, for the last year and maybe another, maybe a couple of quarters, we are right in the middle of it. And I expect us to, you know, finish this part and, You know, renew as much customers that are healthy for the business and also acquiring new customers for the long term. But, you know, we're working into it right now.
Great color. Thanks. And then on the M&A front, the balance sheet has improved quite a bit. How high would you take leverage for the right acquisitions? And is there a different level that you turn off the NCIB?
I don't comment very much on the NCIB, to be very honest, but for our debt level, we are in the mid-two, so we have a lot of headways to work on. I would say that our healthy place is probably from there to maybe in the mid-threes, maybe four, if really worth it. But again, we're focusing on accretive transactions. You know, there is no room for long-term investment return these days. We're focusing on accretive transactions. And again, I don't want to be the teaser, but I can tell you that the team is working actively into this sector.
Thank you very much. I'll turn it over. Thank you.
That enough for the questions on the phone line.
I will turn it over to Mr. Bikra for some closing remarks.
Thank you very much, Monsieur. Just in closing, I just want to make sure that we have a simple strategy, but yet that needs a lot of elbow work to accomplish. And these times where there is uncertainties, where the real estate sector is a little bit into headwinds and everything, we're focusing on working with our clients, Protecting margins, which is the most important part of the business. You know what? I can live with a 3%, 4% decline for a couple of quarters because we were rigorous in the way we approach, the way we create value in the business. So we are absolutely investing in sales and business development. top of it so sales business development continuing to improve on our technical business that does very well and continue to protect the margin and develop on the business service side not complicated but a lot of work and again in finishing yes we are feeling very confident on the M&A side as I said earlier we think that the multiples and are getting into a more reasonable bracket for us to transact. So thank you very much for your time.
Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes your conference call for today. We thank your participating and ask that you please disconnect your lines. Have a great day.
