Information Services Corporation

Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the IFC Q3 2024 earnings conference call and webcast. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press star 1-1 on your telephone. You will then hear an automated message advising your hand is raised. To withdraw your question, please press star 11 again. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your first speaker today, Jonathan Hackshaw, Senior Director of Investor Relations and Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Thank you, Shannon, and good morning to everyone joining us today. Welcome to ISE's conference call for the quarter ended September 30th, 2024. On the call with me today are Sean Peters, President and CEO, and Bob Antichow, Chief Financial Officer. This morning, Sean will take you through some of the highlights of the quarter. Bob will then provide some comments on our financial and operating performance for the quarter before passing the call back over to Sean for some closing remarks. Before we begin, we would like to remind everyone that we will only be summarizing results today. The company's financial statements and MD&A have been filed on CDAR+. and are available on our website. We encourage you to review those reports in their entirety. I would also like to remind you that any statements made today that are not historical facts are considered to be forward-looking statements within the meaning of applicable securities laws. The statements may involve a number of risks and uncertainties that are described in detail in the company's CDAR Plus filings. Those risks and uncertainties may cause actual results to differ materially from those stated Today's comments are made as of today's date and will not be updated except as required under applicable securities laws. Today's conference call is being broadcast live over the internet and will be archived for replay shortly after the call on the investor relations section of our website. With that, I would now like to turn the call over to Sean.

Thank you, Jonathan, and good morning to everyone joining us for today's call. The third quarter of 2024 delivered excellent results. with revenue up 12% and adjusted EBITDA up 18% compared to the third quarter of 2023. In registry operations, strong performance from the Saskatchewan Registries Division, combined with the full effect of fee adjustments implemented in July 2023, produced revenue and adjusted EBITDA for the quarter that were up 16% and 23% respectively. We also saw continued strong performance in residential real estate in the land registry, resulting in an increase in overall volumes compared to the third quarter of 2023. In services, there was growth in know-your-customer and due diligence activities from existing customers in the regulatory solutions division as the compliance environment continues to be more stringent within the lending industry. As well, we saw growth in the recovery solutions division as we saw both increased assignments and sales. However, revenue and adjusted EBITDA for the quarter were still marginally lower compared to the same quarter last year following the introduction of a ban by the Government of Ontario on notice of security interests or NOSIs at the start of the quarter, which impacted our collateral management offering. Finally, I'm pleased to report that our technology solution segment also saw an improvement in results, with increases in revenue and adjusted EBITDA of $3.4 million and $1.5 million respectively, compared to the same period last year. With that, I'll now turn the call over to Bob to discuss some financial highlights in more detail before providing some closing thoughts. Thank you, Sean, and good morning, everyone.

As Sean mentioned, 2024 has shown strong performance, with the third quarter of 2024 continuing to deliver results in line with our expectations. The positive performance for the quarter was driven by a number of factors, which I will now highlight for you. Revenue was $60.9 million for the quarter, an increase of 12% compared to the third quarter of 2023. This increase was driven by increased volumes across the Saskatchewan Registry's division and registry operations, combined with a full quarter of fee adjustments compared to two months in the prior year quarter. New revenue related to the Bank Act Security Registry. and the advancement of project work on existing and new solution definition and implementation contracts and technology solutions. Net income was $4.2 million, or $0.23 per basic and diluted share, compared to $4.2 million, or $0.24 per basic share and $0.23 per diluted share in the third quarter of 2023. Strong operating results were offset by increased share-based compensation expense. Increased investment in information technology services primarily related to project delivery work in technology solutions, as well as increased amortization associated with the extension. Net cash flow provided by operating activities was $14.2 million for the quarter, a decrease of $0.4 million from $14.6 million in the third quarter of 2023. The change was driven by changes in non-cash working capital, partially offset by strength in the operating segments. Adjusted net income was $11 million or $0.61 per basic share and $0.60 per diluted share, compared to $8.4 million or $0.47 per basic share and $0.46 per diluted share in the third quarter of 2023. The growth in adjusted net income for the three and nine months ended September 30th, 2024 reflects the strong results from all operating segments. Adjusted EBITDA was $22.7 million for the quarter compared to $19.2 million in the third quarter of 2023. The increase was driven by volume increases across the Saskatchewan Registry's Division of Registry Operations and fee adjustments which resulted in higher revenues. Additionally, progress continues to be made on existing and new solution definition and implementation contracts and technology solutions. Adjusted EBITDA margin was 37.3% compared to 35.2% in the third quarter of 2023, driven mainly by the volume increases and fee adjustments in Registry Operations, Saskatchewan Registries Division discussed previously. Adjusted free cash flow for the quarter was $15.9 million, up 10% compared to $14.4 million in the third quarter of 2023. This growth was driven by strong performance across the Saskatchewan Registries Division and progress on existing and new solutions definition and implementation contracts and technology solutions. Now turning to expenses. Expenses were up by $6.4 million compared to the third quarter of 2024, largely due to regular business activity such as increases in wages and salaries and information technology services. In addition, there was an increase in expenses associated with the extension agreement, including depreciation and amortization. Capital expenditures have also increased as we expected, albeit remaining relatively insignificant overall. Sustaining capital expenditures, including registry enhancement capital, rose to $1.9 million for the third quarter of 2024 from the half a million in the corresponding period in 2023. Subsequent to the end of the quarter, we also made the first of five annual cash payments of $30 million in relation to the MSA extension agreement that we announced last July using funds drawn from our credit facility. Concurrent with this payment, the balance of vendor concession liability was reduced by $30 million on our balance sheet. As a result, debt was $177.5 million as at September 30, 2024, compared to $177.3 million at the same time last year. After all this, as at September 30, 2024, We held $12 million in cash compared to $24.2 million as at December 31, 2023, which is a reflection of our deleveraging plan following voluntary prepayments of $16 million that were made towards the company's credit facility during the quarter. As you know, this is part of the company's plan to deleverage towards a long-term net leverage target of 2 to 2.5 times. Before I turn the call back over to Sean, I'd like to finish by highlighting that we also announced yesterday that our board of directors approved a quarterly cash dividend of 23 cents per share. That dividend will be payable on or before January 15th, 2025 to shareholders of record as of December 31st, 2024. I will now turn the call back over to Sean for concluding remarks.

Thanks, Bob. Our results for the quarter are reflective of the strength of the company's business overall. As we continue to chart the course towards achieving our five-year goal to double revenue and adjusted EBITDA by 2028, our performance for the first nine months of 2024 shows that we've made a strong start. The Bank of Canada has now lowered its key interest rate three times in 2024, with market expectations of further cuts in the next year. Strong activity in the Saskatchewan real estate market is expected to continue in the near term, despite inventory challenges in lower-value homes. Factors such as strong population growth and improved market confidence create an environment for heightened real estate activity, most notably benefiting the Saskatchewan Land Registry. In addition, the realization of a full year of fee adjustments will continue to support the strong revenue in the Saskatchewan Registry's division of our registry operations segment. Services will continue to be a significant part of our organic growth. The current trend of enhanced due diligence in an environment of increased regulatory oversight is expected to continue and positively impact the regulatory solutions division. Furthermore, the decline in used car values, which worsens the loan-to-value of the vehicle and reduces any equity that debtors may have in their existing vehicles, coupled with current mortgage, rental, and inflationary pressures, is expected to negatively impact consumers' disposable income, as well as lead to increased assignment levels in our recovery solutions division for the next two years. In February, we provided our annual guidance that forecasted meaningful organic growth in 2024 for both revenue and adjusted EBITDA. In light of the strong performance to date in 2024 and the view that the market trends will continue to be in our favor, We're reiterating our annual guidance for 2024 with revenue expected to be within a range of $240 to $250 million and adjusted EBITDA to be within a range of $83 to $91 million. With that, I'll hand the call back to Jonathan.

Thank you, Sean. Shannon, we'd now like to begin the question and answer session, please.

Thank you. At this time, we will conduct the question and answer session. As a reminder, to ask a question, you will need to press star one one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. Please stand by. Our first question comes from Paul Trever from RBC Capital Markets. Your line is now open.

Oh, thanks so much and good morning. Just wanted to focus on regulatory solutions and just the collateral management business. What is the size of that business and what do you see as the run rate going forward just with the Government of Ontario's changes there?

Thanks, Paul, for the question.

regulatory solutions roughly, you know, from a quarterly perspective, you have seen that it was about $18.9 million in revenue for the quarter and sort of hovers around that, you know, it's about $80 million roughly in total. I'm just sort of, you know, if you look at our quarterlies, it's roughly around that $20 million a quarter. And in terms of, you know, the impact, sorry, the last part of your question, Paul, was just on Yeah, the nosy impact.

Yeah, exactly.

Yeah. So it is a smaller part of the business. The KYC and due diligence activities have been really the growing part of our business, but it does have... you know, we think that the nosy due diligence activities, the diversification there is going to offset, you know, the impact overall on that. I don't know, Sean, if anything to add on that at all.

No, I think Paul's right. It is smaller. It had an impact in the quarter for sure. And we're just looking at how to sort of diversify and provide products and services that will accomplish the same thing that they were trying to do with the noses in Ontario. But for now, we're staying the course on our diversification plans.

Okay. Shifting gears and looking at corporate solutions, you mentioned that there's non-contract customers and then there's customers on contracts. How do you see the mix shift between those two? And I imagine if more shipped to contracts, you'd have better visibility, revenue visibility. Is that a fair way to think about it as you're trying to proactively shift from non-contract to contract customers?

I think that's a fair way, yeah, Paul, to look at it. Obviously, we're providing more services to those contract customers. And so, ideally, that's where we'd like to move people to because increases our share of the wallet in that area.

For sure. And at the same time, Paul, we welcome casual users of the system, and that's really what our non-contract users are. And so, we're happy to serve them as well. But your point is right, that more revenue stability with contract customers.

That's helpful. Just lastly for me, just on the Bank Act security registry, it's nice to see some revenue this quarter. How do we think about the longer-term revenue potential of that registry?

It's a smaller registry. We did introduce a third division in our registry operations segment called Other Registries. It'll be included in that section just because of the materiality compared to the Saskatchewan Registries Division and Ontario Property Tax Analysis Division.

Okay, thanks. I'll pass the line. Thanks, Paul.

Thank you. Our next question comes from Harry Kilby from Edison Group. Your line is open.

Hi. Thanks. Two questions from me. So you spoke about having slightly increased CapEx spending, even though it's immaterial at the moment. How do you see your CapEx profile running moving forward? Is this kind of increased spending in CapEx expected to continue to the point where it does become material? And then you're starting to see some real growth in your technology solutions business being up 70% in the quarter year and 50% in the nine months. What sort of growth rate should we expect this to continue growing at? Should we expect it to slowly start coming down a little bit, or in short, how should we really be thinking about this moving forward?

I'll start off with the capex question. So, you know, in the near term, we do expect your capital to be more the levels we're seeing currently as we embark on the registry enhancement associated with the Saskatchewan registries. So we did talk about investing in that in previous quarters and as part of the MSA extension back in July of last year. So you will see that sort of in the near term. And then in terms of growth and technology solutions, so again, that business is dependent on winning contracts. So part of it is what we call support and maintenance, but the biggest part or the biggest revenue stream in that segment relates to the solutions definition and implementation contracts. So we've seen a pickup this year because of contracts. One you know, in the previous year and at the start of the year. And we would, you know, we continue to have a, you know, a pipeline where we're pursuing opportunities. And, you know, we'd hope to, you know, continue at the same pace, but it depends on what those opportunities are and our success rate and landing those.

And tends to be a more lumpy side of the business. Yeah. Amazing. Thank you for that. That's all from me. Thank you.

Thank you. Our next question comes from Trevor Reynolds from Acumen. Your line is now open.

Hey, guys.

Morning. So we saw a nice pickup again, their continued growth on the recovery solution side of things. Can you maybe touch on where that's at um you know in terms of the the potential on on that division what how much growth kind of you still expect from that um and maybe just the performance because uh since you guys have acquired it obviously there was a period there where it was pretty stagnant but we're starting to see that pick up so maybe just kind of what you're seeing on that recovery solution side of things yeah i'll start off and then you know sean if you want to jump in so

So, yeah, as we, you know, disclosed, we are seeing, you know, as we did in Q2, increased assignments. And then, obviously, with increased assignments, we're able to, you know, convert more to sales. And that's where we earn a higher margin. You know, and, you know, during, you know, 2022, we saw with elevated used car values, a lot of problems. debtors were able to redeem their loans. And so we just earn a administration fee on that, which is significantly less than the commission we earn on the sales. So we have seen, just with the increased interest rate environment, a pickup in assignments. So financial institutions are Obviously, there is pressure out there on debtors, and that's resulting in increased assignments and sales. With the interest rate environment coming down, there could be an impact in that, but it's probably a ways away on that. I don't know, Sean, if you have any thoughts on that.

Yeah, I'd add just a couple of things, Trevor. So, first of all, you're right. I mean, after we first acquired the business, I think it performed differently than we expected, particularly as we acquired it during COVID and going into COVID. I think we had different expectations of how the market was going to react. We've talked on previous calls about subsidy and support payments that sort of help consumers in those times. Having said that, I wouldn't use the word stagnant on it. I would say that it was very stable and predictable. We've always said that it's very stable, even in a strong economy. And I think that's what we've seen over the last few years. But it's very counter cyclical. And so now that we're seeing things turn, it's where we expected it would perform and where it is starting to perform. I think to answer the last part of your question about the continued growth in there, we wouldn't put a percentage on where we think there's continued growth, but we do see over the next sort of short term anyways that we expect that to continue to grow. We expect assignments to continue to increase for all the reasons that I outlined. And so I think in the short term, we'd expect to see it continue to grow. And then as the economy sort of strengthens again, it will probably go back into more of a stable holding pattern while the rest of our business and diversification we talked about sort of takes over.

got it thanks um and maybe just a second one just on the you guys had uh quite a bit of time now to to digest the um uh the msa extension just curious where you're you guys are at on in terms of uh m&a in the in the current environment what the uh the pipeline looks like yeah so uh you're right we're we're well

into the new contract in our MSA. And I'd comment, of course, that that's done very smoothly for us and we're very happy with that relationship with the government. That has allowed us some time to integrate as we talked about and prepare for the growth that we've now put out. Our M&A pipeline is consistent. We've said for some time that it looks good. We are still very specific and prudent in what we choose. from an M&A perspective, and we'll continue to do that. So we're excited about the growth as we go forward, and that's going to include M&A. And I can't really speak to any specifics, as you would know, but I would tell you that the pipeline is as good as we've seen it in the last number of years.

Great. Thanks for taking my question, Fred. Thanks, Trevor.

Thank you. Our next question comes from Scott Fletcher from CIBC. Your line is now open.

Hi, good morning. I wanted to ask a question on the outlook and the guide. With only one quarter left, you left the ranges on the guidance, which I sort of see as kind of wide. Is there anything keeping you from tightening any of those guidance ranges at the moment?

Yeah, Scott, thanks for the question. I think it's a great question, obviously, given that, as you said, we are in the third quarter. And we're comfortable in that guidance range, obviously, given that we've reaffirmed it. I think the thing that's maybe holding us back is we have seen this strength in the Saskatchewan economy, and usually the fourth quarter would be the slowest quarter for us in Saskatchewan in that real estate market, yet we saw quite a bit of strength ending in Q3, which will probably translate over into Q4. And so I think we just want to be prudent in not sort of specifying the range. We're comfortable that we'll hit the range. There's still some factors, I think, at play, particularly in the Saskatchewan economy, but maybe even a little bit in services as it kind of makes its way past those nosies. That's just stopping us from being a bit more specific, if that makes any sense.

No, that's fair. And then just to follow up, I do want to go back to the nosies. I'm just trying to understand, obviously, there's a quarter over quarter and pretty notable decline in the growth rate there. How much of that is attributable to that ban? And if you could maybe help us put a number on how much of the 80 million roughly was generated from nosies and how you mentioned you sort of work on to diversify that impact away. Just a little more detail there would be helpful. Thanks.

Yeah, I can start and then I'll let Bob jump in on that too. So I think, you know, as we've talked about, it is, the services business is pretty diversified. And so this is one impact that we, or one product, sorry, that we have. And you're sort of seeing the impact. I would say it's impacted the growth, as you've noted, but not something that we don't think we can recover from as we continue to grow. So while I'd hesitate to use the words not material, Because I do think there's obviously an impact that you're seeing. It's not anything so significant that we would put up a red flag on it. I think it's still well within our ability to continue to grow the company with just this one product line. So I know that's not super specific in terms of dollars. I think we're probably hesitant to disclose a dollar number. specifically on the size of our nosy business just for competitive reasons. But you'll continue to see the impact, I would say, over the next quarter as well, and that might give you some guidance.

Okay, thanks.

Thank you. Our next question comes from Jesse Pitlack from Cormark Securities. Your line is now open.

Thank you. Good morning. Just coming back to the nosies, is there a risk that other provinces could also follow Ontario's lead and implement a ban? And if so, do you have any exposure to that?

Yeah, I'll take the first part, maybe. I suppose there always is. I think that for us, the bulk of our business, and we'll talk about the exposure, but the bulk of our business is in Ontario. And we don't speak to the reasons. We understand some of the reasons why the Ontario government took that step was for a fairly significant amount of fraud that was happening in that. I think there's other solutions to solve that as opposed to an outright ban. And so, as I said, you know, we're working to try to find what some of those solutions are so that we could help other governments in that situation. So I think our exposure, and I'll let Bob jump in, I think our exposure in other provinces is fairly low, but it certainly could happen in other provinces as well, although I don't think the incidence of fraud is as large in some of the other provinces as it was in Ontario.

Yeah, Sean, you're correct. The Ontario nosies are sort of the biggest portion of that nosy stream, and other provinces are sort of immaterial compared to that. Yeah.

Okay. And then did you have a sense that this was coming or were you kind of caught by surprise?

It was a fairly quick process with the Ontario government. We obviously, in the industry, we are aware of fraud happening, not certainly in our systems or anything, but we're aware of the concern. But I think the government acted very, very quickly on that. So I think we had not much notice on it.

Okay, I understand. That's all for me. Thank you. Thanks, Jesse.

Thank you. Our next question comes from Trevor Reynolds from Acumen. Your line is open.

Hey, Trevor. Hey, guys. Just a follow-up. Just on the – can you remind us on the high-value property – Do you guys ever, like, is there seasonality to that? And then also just on the corporate on the registry as well, the seasonality on that side of things.

Yes. So on the high value property registration, I mean, that's hard to predict. You know, those are large transactions and, you know, they happen when they happen. So it is really hard to predict those. And then the second part was on the corporate. So we do have a table in our MD&A that sort of gives the seasonality by quarter for corporate registry. And you can see that traditionally it's Q1 that is the bigger quarter, but Q4 tends to be a little bit lower, but with Q1, Q2 being the higher quarters. But yeah, you'll see that in the disclosures. Okay, great. I just wanted to clarify that.

Thanks very much, Trevor.

Thank you so much. This concludes the question and answer session. I would now like to turn it back to Jonathan for closing remarks.

Thank you, Shannon, with no further questions. We would like to once again thank you all for joining us in today's call, and we look forward to speaking with you again when we next report. Have a great day.

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