Lassonde Industries Inc.

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Welcome to Lesson d'Industrie's 2026 First Quarter Earnings Conference Call. The corporation's press release reporting its financial results was published yesterday after market close. It can be found on its website at Lassonde.com, along with the MDNA and financial statements. These documents are available on Cedar Plus as well. A presentation supporting this conference call was also posted on the website. At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode. Following the presentation, we will conduct a question and answer session. Instructions will be provided at that time for you to queue up for questions. If anyone has any difficulties hearing the conference, please press star followed by zero for operator assistance at any time. Before turning to management's pre-recorded remarks, please be advised that this conference call will contain statements that are forward-looking within the meeting of Canadian securities laws. Forward-looking information is based on management's current expectations and assumptions. and is subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those anticipated. For discussion of key assumptions and risk factors, please refer to the forward-looking statement section of the MD&A. Also note that all figures expressed on today's call are in Canadian dollars, unless otherwise stated, and that most amounts have been routed to ease the presentation. This call will also include certain non-IFRS financial measures and ratios that are not standardized under IFRS and may not be comparable to similar measures used by other issuers. Reconciliations to the most directly comparable IFRS measures and related definitions are provided in the appendix to the presentation and in the corporation's MD&A. I would like to remind everyone that this conference call is being recorded on Friday, May 8, 2026. I will now turn the conference over to Vince Timpano, Chief Executive Officer.

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. I'm here with Eric Gemm, our Chief Financial Officer. We appreciate your time today as we review our results for the first quarter ended March 28, 2026. Please turn to slide four. Lassonde delivered solid profit growth in the first quarter of 2026 as disciplined pricing strategies and stabilization of input costs resulted in better cost-to-price alignment. Operating profit increased by 22%. This improvement was accomplished notwithstanding a decrease in sales, which resulted from a combination of market and supply chain factors, as well as specific choices made concerning our product portfolio. That said, our portfolio once again proved its strength, as our national brands gained market share in both Canada and the United States. Now let's turn to slide five for a closer look at operations, beginning with our beverage activities. In the U.S., we are pleased with our performance amidst category volume decline in measured channels. Our private label business slightly underperformed the category as we faced distribution losses following certain supply constraints and lower velocity for specific SKUs due to changes in customer promotional strategies. We expect to regain loss distribution for several products later in the year. We also cycled a strong prior year comparison. As a reminder, in the first quarter of last year, we achieved volume growth even as the category was declining, which was attributable to increased production capacity alongside gains in market share. In this first quarter, we remained disciplined in pricing execution balancing inflation-driven adjustments with promotions, while being mindful of demand elasticity. In this challenging macroeconomic environment, with consumers under ongoing inflationary pressures, our private label offerings remain well-positioned to meet value-driven purchasing, whether in mass or discount store channels or for pantry stocking needs. During the first quarter, our U.S.-branded business demonstrated resilience, highlighted by Apple and Eve's exceptional performance. Recognized for its strong reputation amongst both parents and children, the brand continued to expand its market share in single-serve and juice box formats, supported by strategic investments in these platforms at our North Carolina facility. As for our new facility in New Jersey, the pace of construction continues to progress on schedule, with most equipment now delivered on site. We remain on track to gradually begin transferring existing production activities from the current facility by late 2026 and complete this phase in early 2027. It is important to remember that this project serves as a strategic basis for optimizing cost. The primary aim at the initial stage is to improve efficiency and reliability, thereby lowering our overall cost structure rather than pursuing immediate volume expansion. Turning to slide six for Canadian beverage activities. While category volumes declined slightly above mid-single digits, we continued to gain market share. Lausanne's national brand significantly outpaced the category, supported by solid gains in shelf-stable products and strong growth across single-serve formats. These gains are even more meaningful in a context where quarter one 2026 marked the cycling of the Buy Canadian sentiment's initial impulse. Meanwhile, private label volume was softer and shelf-stable, in part from unforeseen changes in a large customer's go-to-market strategies within the quarter. This segment was also impacted by targeted portfolio optimization actions, including the discontinuation of selected product lines. As with U.S. activities, we focused on executing disciplined revenue management strategies implementing pricing adjustments that align broadly with inflationary trends, while selectively deploying promotional activity where elasticity supported sustainable velocity. We also sustained our innovation efforts by developing new product formulas and formats tailored to meet consumer needs throughout the day. By centering our growth strategy on established and emerging beverage segments, such as Oasis HealthBreak, Smoothies, and Del Monte Nectars, We reduce our dependence to commodities and enhance profitability. Moving on to food service on slide seven. Food service activities continue to perform well this quarter, supported by increased volumes with broad line distributors in the United States and enhanced national account penetration in Canada. Our ongoing deployment of the bag in a box of septic packaging line has resulted in the addition of a prominent Canadian based QSR chain, for which we are supplying tailored beverages aligned with its menu offerings. Furthermore, we remain actively engaged in negotiations and competitive bidding processes with both national and regional partners throughout North America. Now let's turn to specialty food on slide eight. Summer Garden grew volume for its own brands driven by distribution gains for GQs in the U.S. as well as third-party brands in the premium, super-premium pasta sauce category. We also gained distribution for GQs with a mass merchant in Canada beginning in April. Meanwhile, Canadian operations delivered a solid performance, growing third-party brand volume, mainly through significant distribution gains for pasta sauces in Western Canada. In the first quarter, we established our new North America Specialty Food Division, advancing our ambition to strengthen our capabilities and expand our presence in the specialty food market across the continent. With new leadership in place, we can double down on building our brand marketing capabilities, sharpen the positioning of our branded products, and execute plans to strengthen consumer awareness and loyalty while continuing to pursue innovation. I now turn the call over to Eric for a review of quarter one results.

Eric. Thank you, Vince. Good morning, everyone. Let's get to the numbers by turning to slide nine. First quarter sales were $664 million versus $700 million last year. Excluding an unfavorable foreign exchange effect, sales decreased by 2.5%. The variance reflects reduced sales volume primarily within private label categories. Volume declines were partially attributable to subdued demand across select end markets and comparative against last year's exceptionally strong first quarter, which benefited from substantial volume growth through our U.S. Build Back program and favorable momentum at the outset of Buy Canadian. Additionally, the decreased results from intentional portfolio management decisions, including the discontinuation of lower margin and non-strategic product lines, within our Canadian beverage business unit. Volumes were further constrained by supply limitation affecting certain concentrates, particularly in the United States, leading to temporary loss of sales. Moving to slide 10. Gross profit reached $198 million, up from $183 million a year ago. Excluding unfavorable FX impact, it rose $13 million, or 7%, reflecting the favorable impact of selling price adjustments, a positive shift in the sales mix, mainly in Canada, and a decrease in the cost of orange concentrate, net of associated hedging program impact. In addition to the volume effect, these factors were partly upset by higher apple and pineapple concentrate costs and an increase in certain conversion costs, mainly in Canada. SG&A expenses were $136 million, down from $140 million last year, due to lower finished goods warehousing costs, mainly in the U.S., expense in U.S. dollars being converted into Canadian dollar at a lower exchange rate, and a decrease in transportation costs to deliver products to clients. These were partly offset by a net increase in certain administrative expenses and higher selling and marketing expenses. Excluding items that impact comparability, adjusted EBITDA increased 12% to $80 million, or 12% of sales, from $72 million, or 10.2% of sales, last year. Turning to slide 11, or net profit. Adjusted profit attributable to the corporation's shareholders reached $37 million, or $5.36 per share, up 34% from last year. Let's turn to working capital on slide 12. At the end of the first quarter, the days of operating working capital ratio stood at 51 days versus 43 days three months ago, mainly driven by the I.O. The sequential increase is primarily mechanical, reflecting lower first quarter cost sales rather than inventory accumulation. and remains within our normal seasonal range. We maintain our view that working capital should remain within historical range in 2026, with the usual caveat that we may use our balance sheet to secure inventory cost ahead of anticipated supplier price increases, ensure adequate service level, or mitigate potential supply chain disruptions. Now to slide 13 for cash flows. Operating activities generated $71 million in Q1 2026, as opposed to requiring $60 million last year. The variation reflects mainly stronger working capital performance compared to last year, when a high volume of apple concentrate inventory was strategically purchased earlier in the quarter. CapEx totaled $44 million in Q1 2026, including $26 million for the construction of the New Jersey facility. As a reminder, CapEx are projected to reach up to 7% of sales in 2026, including approximately 96 million U.S. dollars for the New Jersey project. Turning to our financial position on slide 14, Lausanne Net Debt totaled $474 million at the end of the first quarter, down from $489 million three months earlier. The decreased results from a solid operating cash flow generation partly upset by CapEx. As a result, the net debt to adjusted VDA ratio improves to 1.35 to 1 at the end of this first quarter, 2026, compared to 1.42 to 1 at the end of the previous quarter. All things being equal, we expect the leverage ratio to remain within that range throughout 2026, well within our comfort zone of less than 3.25 to 1. Before I wrap up, I'd like to share that this is my final analyst call. After 12 years with Lassonde, including the past five at CFO, this is a meaningful moment for me. I've been fortunate to collaborate with outstanding colleagues throughout the company and to interact frequently with our investor, whose trust and insightful conversation I truly appreciate. I'm proud of what we've built together and confident in the company's direction and leadership going forward. I also want to express my full confidence in Francis as he steps into the CFO role in a few days. He is a highly capable leader with solid experience and sound judgment, and I'm confident he will help ensure continuity, financial discipline, and a clear focus on value creation as Lausanne executes its strategy going forward. Thank you all for the support over the years. It has truly meant a great deal to me. I turn the call back to Vince for Outlook. Vince.

Thank you, Eric. Now, please turn to slide 15 for our outlook. The first quarter proved that our extensive portfolio is designed to perform across varying cycles. It leverages private label and value-first environments and brands in trust-led occasions, giving us resilience in today's pressured environment. Looking ahead, we remain focused on executing our strategy and driving profitable, sustainable growth. while staying mindful of a challenging macro environment and its potential effects on supply dynamics and consumer spending. In this context, we will continue to leverage our diversified portfolio, balance with pricing, promotion, and other volume initiatives. We continue to expect to reach approximately $3 billion in sales by 2026, excluding effects and absent major external disruptions. That said, Achieving profitable growth will prevail over sales volume solely for revenue growth, as we demonstrated in this first quarter. Moving to slide 16 for strategic priorities by division. For U.S. beverages, our focus will be on leveraging key investments in single serve and juice box lines, maintaining price discipline while being responsive to shifts in consumer behaviors, and completing our new facility to improve efficiency. As for our Canadian beverage business, our priority remains fortifying our leadership through innovation-led growth initiatives, continuing our focus on effective revenue management strategies, which includes targeted promotion spending while simultaneously investing in brand-building activities, and strengthening execution in core channels. Our North American food service team will continue its expansion push in this key market, including through our Bag in a Box initiative. In specialty food, our priorities are to achieve profitable growth by optimizing the integration of our North American network, accelerating brand development and growth through a strategic relaunch of our GEUs brand in the zero sugar category. Turning to slide 17 for an overview of certain cost components. Orange concentrate spot prices declined versus the same period in 2025. The benefit to our P&L was partially offset by our hedging program as higher price contracts from 2025 rolled off during the quarter. By contrast, apple and pineapple concentrate costs remain somewhat higher year over year, reflecting earlier supply constraints, although pricing was relatively stable on a sequential basis. While the overall commodity tailwind may moderate in coming quarters, we remain focused on optimizing product mix, maintaining pricing discipline, and executing targeted cost initiatives to protect margins. The situation in the Middle East is also expected to create further inflationary pressures on transportation and PET resin costs. While geopolitics and trade are beyond our control, we are staying agile in this dynamic environment by planning for continued volatility, running scenarios and mitigation plans across sourcing, pricing, and cross-border flows. In closing, as shown on slide 18, we continue to expect another solid performance in 2026, fueled by disciplined execution of our strategy and our ability to capture growth opportunities. Driven by a strong and diversified portfolio and highly dedicated employees, LaSonde is well positioned to maintain a strong competitive position and sustain profitable growth in the North America food and beverage market. This concludes our prepared remarks. We are now pleased to answer your questions.

We will now begin the question and answer session. To join the question queue, you may press star then one on your telephone keypad. You will hear a tone acknowledging your request. If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your hands up before pressing any keys. To withdraw your question, please press star then two. We will pause for a moment as callers join the queue. Your first question comes from Ahmed Abdullah with National Bank of Canada. Your line is now open.

Hi, good morning. Thank you for taking my question. Eric, I wish you all the best on your retirement. It's been a pleasure interacting with you, and I look forward to interacting with Francis in the days going forward. Thank you, Ahmed. Appreciate it. My pleasure. On the private label weakness, you called out obviously distribution losses. Can you give us a bit more color as to was this really customer specific or were you seeing sort of that trend across the category? And also, could this be something that's more related to mix shifting more towards branded in the market?

Yeah, so good morning. It's Vince. I'll respond to that first. We're seeing some consistencies between Canada and the U.S., and I think the core message here, and we're not sure just how sustaining this is going to be, but you have seen the value gap for private label erode over the course of the last short while. And so what you're seeing is brands continue to focus on promotions as a means to deal with this challenge by this challenging environment from an affordability perspective. and some customers taking a position on their pricing strategy to focus on EDLP. So in essence, what you're just seeing is just the erosion in a value gap between brand and private label. And so to that extent, what you are seeing is some favoring towards brand. The other thing that I would say as well is, You know, the category does remain soft. It's fairly persistent. There's nothing that we're seeing in accelerating of the declining of a meaningful nature. And you're seeing consumers, you know, be very, very focused on choice. You know, in many instances, what you're seeing is consumers buying less units per trip. They're trying to stretch their dollar. They're clearly focusing on value. They're making those value choices in terms of packages as well as channels. and also taking a look at the value gap between brand versus private label.

And Vince, thank you. On top of that, ADLP, let's make sure we're all clear, everyday low price. In addition, and more specifically in our situation, our private label was also affected by Two type of factors. So we've, as we said in our MD&A, we've decided to discontinue some very unprofitable SKUs to focus on the right mix for this organization. And also, supply constraint, not necessarily in the first quarter, but more in the back end of last year, didn't allow us to participate in some rotation at the clubs. and also not be in planograms for certain distribution in retail during this first quarter. However, now we've put our hands around this situation. We have those concentrates in hand, and we can participate in those elements for sure back into the year, and even we see some volume coming back in the second quarter.

Okay, that's helpful. And to get close to your $3 billion target, you know, the back half of the year, we'll have to do a bit more heavy lifting. What part of that expectation comes from initial ramp up related to the New Jersey facility? Do you see any meaningful kind of contribution coming in this year from that facility?

So Ahmed, on the New Jersey side, absolutely not, and we've been very clear. The first thing that we want to do with the New Jersey facility, new facilities to secure volume that we were getting out of the existing ones. So there's absolutely not a volume play in 26 for sure, for sure, 27 not even. So I think you should, and I'm not sure if we had those discussions, but we need to think about more of a volume in 2028 factor, so as I said, no volume effect from the new facility in the next at least 18 months. Okay, so it's more of an organic recovery that you're expecting to get added to the city? Yes. Okay. And on top of that, so you're right, and then the $3 billion, we are still confident. We still have a good shot at it. We had, and I can get into, because I'm sure I'm going to get those questions, we can, when we look at our first quarter, of course, the consumer backdrop was a bit depressed. Absolutely, we have to admit that. But also, on top of the other few things that we've called during the MDM DNA, which is the supply chain constraint, also our decision on portfolio, I have a list of many other things. I didn't want to list necessarily in the MD&A, but really all of them together was a Q1 more specific element. So I get into that, what do we have? We had a very strong December. So there probably have been a bit of a loading from our customer during that period, which led to a very soft January. We had less billing days, not big enough to call it in the MD&A, but another factor here, And then we also had to come up with a very strong first quarter last year. So all of those elements made us say, you know what? Some of you may have called this a top-line miss. We are looking at it's one quarter out of a year, and we feel that we have a good shot at getting there. And despite all of that, top-line is important. But look at our middle of the P&L. We've delivered 12% increase in our EBITDA, 34% increase in our adjusted EPS, converted 90% of our MDA to cash, and lending on a 1.35 time debt to MDA ratio with a solid balance sheet. So to me, revenue is vanity, profit is sanity, and cash is king, and that's what we've delivered this quarter.

Yeah, I like those predictions. It makes sense. Just touching on that profitability kind of angle, if there's top line pressure and given the costs that you can control while balancing some of the promotional intensities, what SG&A levers would you kind of attack first? You still have to kind of invest in growth initiatives and marketing to drive some more traction. So do you see margins improving this year versus last year if top line pressure is consistent?

as you saw, right, we delivered 28.2% gross margin in the quarter. This is resulting from a good visibility, like at the back end of last year, a bit more stable in terms of commodity, allowing us to have good visibility and making sure that our pricing strategy and our cost were more in balance. So that's a good element. Now from a also Mix and you saw that and again through some of our decision improving our mix so for each dollar sells we convert more gross profit, so that's an element that Halting being equal should sustain during the year after that when you look at the GNA Remember GNA under IFRS includes finished good warehousing and outbound freight to consumers so Under these, if I think about the back end of the year, depending on where the fuel surcharge will be, that might have an impact on SG&A. But when you look at other elements of SG&A, I can assure you that Lausanne is very lean on this. So I would not look for meaningful, in those areas, meaningful G&A adjustment to support the profit. I think our profit needs to come from our top line and make sure that we manage very tight any fuel surcharge exposure. Okay, thank you. That's very helpful, Collier. I'll pass the line. Thank you very much, Ahmed.

Your next question comes from Luke Hannon with Canaccord Genuity. Your line is now open.

Thanks. Good morning, everyone, and I would like to extend my congratulations to Eric as well and wish you all the best in your next chapter. It's been great having to work with you over the course of the last few years. Thank you, Luke. Thank you. My first question is just going back to the top line, and I appreciate you calling that out, Eric. I did want to try and see if you can quantify, if possible, the skews that were discontinued. Can you give us a sense of maybe what that would have made up as far as sales last year? Because it seems like on a light... Yeah, please.

Absolutely. So, as I said, many, many components on this one. The three skew, I would say it's a $7 to $8 billion difference impact on a year-over-year basis, and you should look at the 25 to 30 million on a full year basis. But as I said, and I'm not going to quote necessarily percentage, but these skews were not worth our investment in time to manage those skews. Our operating risk related to them, our credit risk, and the space it was taking, the working capital was taking in our balance sheet. So I would take that decision and sacrifice 25 million of sales any day.

100%, and that makes a lot of sense. If you look more broadly across the portfolio, do you see more opportunities to optimize, whether that's in the Canadian or the U.S. business?

Well, we do portfolio optimization day in, day out, but those three elements were all together, and when you look at, again, top-line heavy but bottom-line light, that's why they stood out in the quarter, and that's why we called it out. But, of course, it's our job to do that every day, portfolio optimization.

Okay, thanks. And then my last one, and then I'll pass the line here. I appreciate you guys keeping the guidance intact, the sales guidance intact for the year. What are you baking in from a currency headwind perspective?

So at the moment, we assume when it gets to currency, our crystal ball is as good as anybody's crystal ball. But what we do is we look at a consensus of many banks, of course, more heavyweight. We wait more on Canadian banks' views on the So we are looking at that, and at the moment we're assuming a one, I think it's a 137, 138 view for the balance of the year. But it's been, as we know, right, it's been very variable over the last few orders. Okay. Okay, understood. Thanks, appreciate the time. Thank you very much, Luke.

Your next question comes from Martin Landry with Stiefel. Your line is now open.

Hi, good morning, guys. I was wondering if you can discuss a little bit the cadence of the quarter at retail. Did you or did your customers at retail see a slowdown in consumption in March when the conflict in Iran broke out?

I don't think we have that data, right Vince? I think we can observe on our end in terms of volume, and seriously, I don't have enough data. We don't have enough data to comment publicly on this.

The best that I can do, Martin, and I can come back to clarify, is just what I've seen over the last four weeks, 12 weeks, and 52 weeks. And so what you're seeing is, as we said, mid single-digit declines in Canada, which is fairly consistent with what we saw in the last 12 weeks and fairly consistent with what you see over the 52-week period. You know, specifically to what you're seeing month over month, I don't have that with me. And what I would say is what we're seeing in the U.S. is roughly similar. You're seeing a bit of a softening in the United States, you know, from 52 weeks, which was up, low single digit. It was down. low single-digit in the latest 12 weeks, and it fairly held flat roughly in the latest four weeks. So that's the basic trend that I can give you for 1252. In terms of the month-by-month, I don't have that with me.

However, from a retailer perspective, Martin, we've, if you look at the press, is it yesterday? Yeah, Costco came in with a comparable sales increase of more than 10% in the Canadian market for the quarter and more than 8%, in fact, almost 9% in the U.S. market. So I think it's more of a, again, I'm not an expert in there, but what I feel is a bit of a postponement in general of purchase by consumer, and we might see now a bit of a return to a normal consumption level.

The only thing that I would add, Martin, just as a broad statement, is what does continue to persist is consumer confidence remaining low. And anything that we're seeing from an inflationary perspective and their concerns around affordability extends beyond our category. It certainly influences our category, but it extends beyond that. But like I said, on the timing month by month, I don't have that information. But what I can say is consumers remain concerned from an affordability perspective, broadly speaking.

Yeah, no doubt. Switching gears, you called out a new win, a new QSR win, I think, in Canada. That's great to hear. I think this is with your juice box. Can you maybe just give us a bit of color as what was the trigger for the client to decide to go with you? What was the trigger to get you to win that contract? Is this a trial or is this a permanent offering? And just the timing when this starts.

So there's a lot in there. So we're super excited about this win. It's not a trial. So we're working on a... We've got a contract with them. It's a national... recognized player in the industry I would say the capabilities that we've come up with in terms of an aseptic capability good quality great tasting product that we can deliver in a bag-in-a-box format that we spent a lot of time working with this customer on to make sure that it fit their organization's needs work so there's a combination of things at play here but again the key takeaway is very excited about it I mean this is a major investment for us and in an innovative platform that we've been able to demonstrate through our belief that, frankly, customers are looking for this, and that's the win that we've been able to secure. But the other thing is, like I said, it's not a trial.

It's a contract. It's a contract, and this is, again, we cannot name that customer, but it's about 250 outlets in Canada and growing, so it's very exciting that we're partnering with... with a company that is growing.

Yeah, congratulations. And when does that start?

In the upcoming weeks. Yeah, very shortly.

Okay. And then last question is on another of your distribution. When you mentioned that G. Hughes got some distribution in Canada, Is this your first distribution point in Canada? I'm not sure if GUs was available in Canada. How many doors and how many SKUs will be distributed?

So the distribution as a start is with a major national retailer. GUs is not new to Canada. It's had sparse distribution. This is a start with 100 stores in Canada as a start with a major retailer. And we're going to continue to focus on that. The thing that we're doing with GUs, and you'll see more of it, and particularly in the United States, is we're revamping the brand. We're repositioning the brand and the focus on better for you, a real focus reinforced by zero sugar, label changes, and starting to have conversations with Canadian customers. And like I said, that was one that we would highlight, that is new distribution. And we'll continue to focus on that.

Super. Congratulations. And Eric, best of luck in your future endeavors. It's been great to work with you all these years. And yeah, enjoy your time off.

Thank you, Martin. Very much appreciated. And it's been a pleasure to work with you and all of the analysts that followed Lausanne in the five years that I've been their CFO, the CFO here. So, Martin, thank you.

Once again, if you have a question, please press star, then 1. Your next question comes from Frédéric Tremblay with Desjardins. Your line is now open.

Thank you. Eric, congrats on your accomplishments at Lausanne. It was great working with you over the past several years.

Thank you very much, Frédéric. Likewise.

I just wanted to follow up on the brand investments in specialty foods. I guess maybe looking more at the U.S., can you comment on, you know, your expected timelines in terms of seeing an acceleration in volume and new customer wins in the U.S. on the back of the GU's brand refresh?

So the first focus that we've had is really just to do what we call sort of as a soft relaunch of the brand. And the real focus for us, because we do have distribution, is to fortify that distribution, improve velocities with where we have distribution, and then over time leverage this investment to build distribution and diversify the portfolio's offerings across a whole smattering of retailers across the United States. In terms of the pacing of that, I would just say it's fairly evenly paced, as we would describe it. But what we'll continue to do is update you in future quarters on GQs, just so that we can start to talk a little bit about some of the distribution gains that we are seeing, because it is a real focused effort for us in terms of just fortifying that brand and building distribution.

Okay, that's great. And, you know, considering the consumer environment that we're in now and the the decline of the beverage category in general. Are you seeing some brand refresh opportunities on your beverage portfolio? Could that be a lever to stabilize and grow volumes in certain areas?

Yeah, look, what I would say is from a mid-term to long-term perspective, and we're starting now, the focus for us really is to continue to strengthen our brand position, And so the team is doing meaningful work in terms of just making sure that the brands are sufficiently refreshed. But I would say beyond that, we've got a stated goal to lessen our dependency on commodities and better position ourselves in growing segments within the beverage category, for which we believe we've got core capabilities that can be leveraged. What this is translating to is a long-term view on the innovation pipeline and where it is that we want to play. You're starting to see some of that in terms of the work that we're doing in smoothies and health breaks and the move to certain appealing juice drink categories that are less than 100%. It doesn't mean that we're taking our eye off the ball when it comes to 100%, but innovation enabling us to improve gross margins, lessen dependency on commodities, and allowing us to participate in growing segments is a core priority for this organization. So you will see more of that in the future.

Okay, great. Product innovation was actually my last question, so you just answered that. Very helpful. I'll hop off the line. Thank you. Thank you.

This concludes the question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Vince Timpano for any closing remarks.

Well, thank you for joining us this morning. We invite you to attend our virtual annual meeting of shareholders to be held next Friday. May 15th at 2 p.m. The webcast link is available in our management proxy circular on CDAR+. And we look forward to speaking with you again at our next quarterly call. Have a great day, everyone.

This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect your lines. Thank you for participating and have a pleasant day.