speaker
Operator

Hello, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for standing by. Welcome to the flagship communities read second quarter 2025 earnings call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. Following the presentation, we will hold a brief question and answer session for analysts and institutional investors. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press star 1-1 on your telephone. I would like to remind everyone that this conference call is being recorded. Today's presenters are Kurt Kinney, flagship president and chief executive officer, Nathan Smith, chief investment officer, and Eddie Carlyle, chief financial officer. Please note that comments made on today's call may contain forward looking information. And this information by its nature is subject to risk and uncertainties. Actual results may differ materially from the views expressed today. For further information on this risk and uncertainties, please consult the company's relevant filings on Cedar. These documents are also available on flagship's website at flagshipcommunities.com. Flagship has also prepared a corresponding PowerPoint presentation, which encourages you to follow along with during this call. And now I'll pass the call over to Kurt Kinney. Kurt.

speaker
Kurt Kinney
President and Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, operator. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us today. In the second quarter, our operations continue to perform according to plan, which has set us up well to have another great year in 2025. Our strong performance also showcases our ability to continue growing occupancy levels, rental revenue, and FFO in addition to same community metrics. Our solid financial performance speaks to the strength of our business model throughout all economic cycles. We have been able to improve our portfolio in a number of ways. The first is by improving the amenities packages within existing communities, making them more desirable locations. The second is through ancillary revenue and cost containment. Through bulk purchasing, we can provide certain amenities that allow our residents to save money while providing us with the means for additional revenue. And the third way is through our lot expansion strategy, which allows us to add more housing opportunities within certain existing communities for a modest capital investment. After adding 112 lots to our portfolio in 2024, roughly 10% of customers have begun moving into these lots and we are beginning to generate revenue from these new residents. Our success this year and since our IPO is also a reflection of the solid fundamentals of our industry. The MHC industry continues to demonstrate a consistent track record of strong performance regardless of the economic cycle. For over 20 years, the MHC industry has grown approximately 4% per year, outperforming all other real estate sectors. As you can see from slide seven of the presentation, NOI growth remained positive during the housing crisis and the great recession, and more recently remains resilient during the pandemic. In today's environment, home sales for traditional housing and the condo market are down, primarily due to rising crisis, credit tightening, continued higher mortgage rates and general economic uncertainty. These factors are generally positive for MHCs because our customers tend to stay in our community because they are the more affordable option. That is why the MHC industry is seen as a defensive asset class relative to other real estate classes. We have stable and recurring rental income streams mainly due to our large and diverse resident base. There also continues to be a limited supply of new manufactured housing communities given the various layers of regulatory restrictions, competing land uses and lack of zoned land. With that, I will now turn it over to Nathan for his remarks. Nathan.

speaker
Nathan Smith
Chief Investment Officer

Thanks, Kurt. Good morning, everyone. On the heels of the largest acquisition in our history last year, we have worked hard to integrate and improve the communities and we are very pleased with the progress we have made to date. In West Virginia, we have steadily increased occupancy levels since owning the communities. And in Nashville, Tennessee, new home sales have continued to advance. We have also recently added an amenities package and new clubhouse in one of the communities for the benefit of our residents. Amenity packages and improved clubhouses are important for enhancing the living experience of our residents. Over the last year, we have added pickleball courts, municipal grade playgrounds, clubhouses, cornhole, dog parks, and more to our communities. We also provide extensive holiday and seasonal events, such as back to school programs that our residents look forward to and enjoy as a community. Recently, our efforts were recognized when our Derby Hills Point community in Alexandria, Kentucky was named Community of the Year by the Kentucky Manufactured Housing Institute. This is the fourth year we have won KMHI's Community of the Year Award. And it is a testament to our team's commitment to building safe, high quality and vibrant communities that foster pride and connection among our residents. We have done a great job on our existing portfolio, but at the same time, we are always looking for external opportunities that adhere to our strict and disciplined criteria. As one of the Midwest region's largest MHC operators, we can leverage our 30 years of operating experience to source off-market opportunities through long standing industry relationships. I'll now turn over to Eddie, our CFO, to talk about our financial performance for the quarter. Eddie?

speaker
Eddie Carlyle
Chief Financial Officer

Thanks, Nathan. Good morning, everyone. We generated revenue of $25.1 million during the second quarter, which was up .1% over the same period last year, primarily due to acquisitions, as well as lot rate increases and occupancy increases across the portfolio. Same community revenue of $22.7 million for the second quarter grew by approximately $2.5 million over the comparable period last year. This increase was driven by higher monthly lot rents, as well as growth in same community occupancy and increased utility reimbursements and ancillary revenue agreements. Net operating income and NOI margin were $16.7 million and .6% respectively, compared to $14.1 million and .2% during the second quarter of 2024. Same community, NOI margin for the second quarter was 66%, which increased by .2% compared to last year as a result of lower repairs and maintenance expenses, as well as increased utility recapture. FFO adjusted, and FFO adjusted per unit for the quarter were $9 million and 35.7 cents respectively, a .1% and .7% increase respectively, compared to 2024. A FFO adjusted and FFO adjusted per unit for the quarter were $8.2 million and 32.6 cents respectively, a .5% and .1% increase respectively, compared to 2024. Same community occupancy of .5% increased .2% over the same period last year. As Kurt mentioned in his remarks, last year we completed a lot expansion that added 112 lots to our portfolio. Adjusted for the impact of this expansion, total portfolio occupancy and same community occupancy would have been .6% and .1% respectively. Rent collections for the quarter were .2% compared to .7% last year, which demonstrates the strength and predictability of the MHC sector and was within our expectations. As at June 30, our total lot occupancy was .1% and our average monthly lot rent was $484. Both of these metrics were within our expectation. We remained committed to preserving a conservative debt profile. Our weighted average mortgage and note interest rate was .26% and our weighted average mortgage and note term to maturity was 9.5 years. We had total liquidity of approximately $13.4 million. The REIT currently has 22 unencumbered investment properties with a total fair value of $97.2 million as at June 30, 2025. We are well positioned for future growth opportunities with additional leverageability on our balance sheet. For this reason, we chose not to renew our ATM program. With that, I'll now turn it back over to Kurt for some final remarks. Kurt.

speaker
Kurt Kinney
President and Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Eddie. We are pleased by our progress so far this year and expect to build on this success in the second half of the year. The ongoing integration of our communities in Nashville and West Virginia, our lot expansion strategy and our strong balance sheet have helped position us for another great year in 2025, the 30th anniversary for Nathan and me in the MHC business. We expect to maintain our high level of performance and growth as housing prices, high monthly rental rates for multifamily competitors and mortgage rate increases have the potential to lead more people toward manufactured housing because our homes remain affordable. All of this speaks to the strength and the quality of our residents and the predictability and consistency of the MHC sector. We certainly thank you for your time today and I will now open up the line for questions.

speaker
Operator

Thank you so much. And as a reminder to ask a question, simply press star one one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To remove yourself, press star one one again. Please stand by for our Q&A roster. Our first question comes from Mark Rothschild with Kana Court, please proceed.

speaker
Mark Rothschild
Analyst at Kana Court

Thanks, thanks, good morning guys. Good morning, Mark. Hey, look on the same property and a wide growth which has been consistently for a number of quarters now quite strong and better than your US peers and obviously I'm sure you guys do a better job at managing the properties, but is this something related to maybe how fundamentals have been changing in the markets you're in versus other markets or maybe that you're coming in with greater vacancies in some of them that's leading to that? I'm just trying to understand if that's something you believe is possible to continue to occur over the next few quarters.

speaker
Kurt Kinney
President and Chief Executive Officer

Well, I think that we've been buying some vacancies and then we added some vacancies over the last couple of years. So I do think we've created our own opportunity for same community growth essentially. I don't think our markets are particularly that, I mean again, you can't compare us to some of the other competitors when they're coastal. I don't think that's probably a fair comparison for either party, but at the end of the day, now I think it's really just been because we've had a good strategy at our existing communities filling vacancy and then we've actually created and developed some vacancy that we're filling. The other thing is the ancillary revenue is continuing to kind of help us. Those mature communities were the ones that we did the ancillary revenue, the bulk buying of cable and internet agreements with.

speaker
Mark Rothschild
Analyst at Kana Court

Okay, great, thanks. And maybe just one more on the more recently acquired properties, Nashville in particular, are there any metrics you can provide to let us know how they are performing relative to how you expected initially and maybe what we should expect and how that would compare to the same property portfolio?

speaker
Kurt Kinney
President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, we're just thrilled with the acquisitions. It looks like it was a well-timed acquisition from a expansion of the portfolio perspective. And they are going as planned. We are selling more homes, which is kind of exciting. We're selling more homes in Tennessee than we thought we were gonna sell. And right now, and it looks like that project's coming along as well as it can. When we're redeveloping sites and some of those need to be developed, it takes you 12 to 18 months to kind of get that under control typically. And that's going really well. So I think West Virginia is completely stable right now and Tennessee is growing with home sales.

speaker
spk00

So we're real

speaker
Kurt Kinney
President and Chief Executive Officer

happy on both fronts and that they're making their occupancy globally and their NOIs on plan. Okay, great, thanks. I'll do it. Yeah, I'm

speaker
Eddie Carlyle
Chief Financial Officer

sorry. Maybe I'll just maybe just add short to that. So just from the metric standpoint, NOI seems to be ahead of where we originally thought in the margins as well. That's mostly driven by the fact that, generally we assume we will get a year one property tax reassessment. That doesn't seem to happen in about half the community. So that was a win. So when you look at the actual NOI, it's turning ahead this one.

speaker
Mark Rothschild
Analyst at Kana Court

Okay, great, thanks so much. I'll turn it back.

speaker
spk00

Thanks, Mark.

speaker
Operator

Thank you one moment for our next question. It comes from Tom Callaghan with BMO Capital Markets. Please proceed. Thanks, morning guys.

speaker
Tom Callaghan
Analyst at BMO Capital Markets

Maybe just, morning, maybe just drill down a bit on some of the drivers of that same property growth and particularly on the occupancy side, that continues to march higher. Can you just maybe talk a bit about your expectations for that momentum over the second half of this year? And I guess in the second piece of that question, just what are you seeing in terms of drivers of that growth? Is it people trading down from apartments, migration or something else? And how does that compare, I guess, relative to history, just given the economic backdrop today?

speaker
Kurt Kinney
President and Chief Executive Officer

Well, the fundamentals of our industry are, they really haven't changed in the last 12 months. We're still three to $500 cheaper than alternative competing forms of housing. Typically our customers come from multifamily. So, in our markets, there's not a, I get updated data every two weeks or every two weeks ago and there are no rent concessions, there's no overbuilding of multifamily in our markets. So it's just, it's pretty much business as usual here. You know, it's from just a marketing and a demographic growth kind of perspective. So I don't see anything different there, but the good news is this is a good environment for us. It was a good environment last year, it's a good environment this year. You know, there's still the competing, not only are multifamily more expensive and we get customers from multifamily and then we, customers will move out to go to stick-built housing. Stick-built housing has some challenges right now about affordability. You know, mortgage rates are still high, credit tightening has happened at the banks, it's kind of our understanding on stick-built housing. So that, you know, I think it's tougher for them to go upgrade later. So I think right now people are staying in place a little bit more. But the other side of it is that, you know, we think, again, we've been buying some vacancy and developing a little bit. And, you know, we expect, you know, we think full occupancy at a location, call it 95% to 100, right, something in there because you're always making decisions in the future about how to improve the community through improving the housing stock. Right now, you know, we think we've got 46 locations that are at all time highs on occupancy, but that average is only about 86%. So we can still march that forward, another seven or 8%, just same community. And that's what's happening kind of organically right now. So it's a good time to be in the business.

speaker
Tom Callaghan
Analyst at BMO Capital Markets

All right, thanks, that's great, Karl and Kurt. Maybe second one or last one for me is just capital allocation. Like the balance sheet obviously continues to improve in very good shape. I know in the past you guys had talked previously about maybe some potential refinancing headwind for private operators who may have to think a little bit harder in terms of what their portfolios look like. So have you started to see any product hit the market on that side of things?

speaker
Kurt Kinney
President and Chief Executive Officer

Nathan, Eddie, you wanna jump in there?

speaker
Nathan Smith
Chief Investment Officer

Yeah, yeah, I'll jump in. You know, you continue to not like, in the past you had a lot of private equity. I just don't think private equity right now with what the returns they have to have, the manufacturing housing isn't happening for them. So I see very, very little private equity out there. I see some one-off people buy here and there, but it is, there's not a lot that comes on the market. But as I said, you can't beat the big guy upstairs. At some point, some people pass away or the situation changes and the families that own these are forced into, we need to sell. So you still are starting to see that, you still see that. But, and then you're also still seeing some of the private equity companies and some of the big companies, I mean, Blackstone, just last week I saw where they put up three of their five-star properties and that they may not be staying in the market. So, because they can't buy enough, that's what is interesting in this business is, you know, there's not a lot, it's a boutique business and it's hard to scale it.

speaker
Tom Callaghan
Analyst at BMO Capital Markets

I understand, thanks, thanks Jason, I'll pass it back.

speaker
Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from Jonathan Kelcher with TD Collin, please proceed.

speaker
Jonathan Kelcher
Analyst at TD Collin

Thanks, good morning. First question, just on the expense side, the same property expense growth was around .5% this quarter and I think last quarter you guys talked about some one-time items in there, was this a cleaner number in the quarter and a level we can think about going forward?

speaker
Eddie Carlyle
Chief Financial Officer

Eddie, you wanna jump in? Yeah, sure, yeah, John, I would say this is a much cleaner quarter. We didn't have a lot of one-time expenses, kind of Q1, we had a lot of storms, storm clean up, those kind of things. Q2 didn't really have that, Q2 may be slightly elevated from a wages standpoint just because we have some seasonal workers as it relates to cutting grass and those things, but it should be a much better, much more representative number where we see it. Our utility recaptures, so as you think about utility spend, those things were also kind of normalized this quarter, so I would say it's a pretty good representative number moving forward.

speaker
Jonathan Kelcher
Analyst at TD Collin

Okay, that's helpful and secondly, just on, Kurt, you talked a little bit about ancillary revenue being one of the reasons you guys have, do a little bit better on same property and why, some of the stuff like bulk buying, like how long can that go on, how many communities have you rolled it out to and still have the opportunity to do so? Eddie, you wanna jump

speaker
Kurt Kinney
President and Chief Executive Officer

in on your cable revenue

speaker
Eddie Carlyle
Chief Financial Officer

program? Yeah, absolutely, yeah, so right now, we've done about, call it 60% of the portfolio, really, we're gonna be able to probably effectuate, call it 80% of the portfolio, the other 20% would have issues, whether it's in a market that's not served by a cable provider, or frankly, sometimes a cable provider doesn't want to work with you if they already have really good penetration in a particular market, so we still have opportunity for another, call it 15, 20% of the portfolio to add, it's just not something operationally you can do all at one time, it's a pretty heavy lift from an operations standpoint, just to work through it with the residents and the cable companies, so we'll certainly be deturning some more on here in the third quarter, that should give us some tailwind as we move into Q3, Q4, and then the opportunities will come back around next year when we are able to start taking a look at the portfolio that we just bought, so none of those communities currently are on having a bulk cable or internet providers there, and it's an opportunity for us to really help the resident from a cost standpoint on their cable and internet, as well as helping us a bit as well, so I still think we have a pretty good runway, certainly the next four quarters, we should have some tailwinds, and as we move into next year, start looking at the acquired portfolios, we'll have to work on that as well.

speaker
Jonathan Kelcher
Analyst at TD Collin

So it's good, thanks, I'll turn it back. Thanks, Jonathan.

speaker
Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from Brad Sturgis with Raymond James, please proceed.

speaker
Brad Sturgis
Analyst at Raymond James

Hey guys, good morning, Brad, just maybe circling back to, I guess, the acquisition market and looking for a little bit of color or commentary on how you view your pipeline for acquisition opportunities today and whether or not you can hit your annual acquisition volume target of call 30 to 50 million this year.

speaker
Nathan Smith
Chief Investment Officer

Yeah, we have been looking at deals, as I said before, you can't beat mother nature, and so I would anticipate that we will surely get to the 30 to 50 number this year, but we're working hard to get there, it can be a tough market, as I said in the past, you gotta take the deals when they come, and because you don't know when they're coming.

speaker
Brad Sturgis
Analyst at Raymond James

Has there been any change in terms of pricing expectations, whether it's core assets or value-add assets from like a contract perspective?

speaker
Nathan Smith
Chief Investment Officer

No, no, it's just, you know, everybody wants to see cap rates move up in manufactured housing communities, but in my 30 years, they've never moved up. I mean, I've watched them move down, and especially in coastal states to 3%, you know, three cap, but in the Midwest, they just haven't moved very much. I mean, there's 10 caps and 11 caps and over time that we have bought, but they are very, you know, difficult properties to turn, and you can only take so many of them a year, or in three years or five years, whatever it takes to turn them.

speaker
Brad Sturgis
Analyst at Raymond James

Thanks, John. Just last question, just real quick, on the lot expansion program, how do you think about what that will look like this year? I think the target was somewhere around 75 lots this year. Is that still the case?

speaker
Kurt Kinney
President and Chief Executive Officer

I think it's probably a little bit lighter. It's probably somewhere between 20 and 40. And again, you're not doing it at one location. This is just where we get chances to expand right now, but you know, it's a relatively small number this year compared to the 50,000 that we're managing. But at the end of the day, you know, is it there? Yeah, it's there. Will it be a big number this year? No, but I don't really expect it to be a big number any year. But we're gonna, again, that's how you make same community, back to an earlier question, that's how you make same community grow. When you can, when you take a same community and you can actually add lots and you get the entitlements to do that, that's long-term very creative. You just gotta be patient with it. Yeah, makes sense. Thanks a lot, I'll turn it back.

speaker
Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Kyle Stanley with Dejardin. Thanks, morning guys.

speaker
Kyle Stanley
Analyst at Desjardins

Morning, Kyle. You've noted, you know, new home sales activity slowing. I think you mentioned this definitely last quarter in response to higher rates and maybe the economic outlook. And then that could drive residents towards, you know, the properties within your rental fleet as you look to sell them down. I'm just wondering, can you update us on this dynamic, you know, through the second quarter and so far in the third quarter, are you seeing this translate to more home sales within your kind of rental fleet?

speaker
Kurt Kinney
President and Chief Executive Officer

I think I'll let Nathan answer on home sales and then I'll answer on the rental fleet. Nathan, you wanna jump in on what you see on home sales?

speaker
Nathan Smith
Chief Investment Officer

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, Kyle, we have seen some slowing in home sales. It's mostly because the consumer doesn't have the down payment. It's not because there's not financing available. It's not because the interest rate on manufacturing housing has gone up terribly. It is literally the push back on the down payment. And as you know, we take 10% or more down. And when you're talking about on a, you know, a $70,000 single buy, that's $7,000 minimum. And they are having a tougher time coming up with that money. But we are selling homes. And, but the other thing is we're not having a lot of people move. I mean, you see that as well, where, you know, normally you would have people moving up. You're seeing very little bit, you're very, very little moving up.

speaker
Kurt Kinney
President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, I think on that same note, on the rental fleet, you know, we're at a high watermark on occupancy of the rental fleet right now. It's like 93%, something like that, 93.6. And we do expect to be able to sell some of those rental homes. Because again, it's just an economic kind of directional moment. If people, for whatever reason, can't or are uncomfortable buying big double wides for $100,000, then they move to single wides for $70,000. And then after that, they move to a, maybe a rental home that you're selling for $40,000. So that's an evolution that we've seen over our 30 years. This call is no longer

speaker
Operator

being recorded.

speaker
Kurt Kinney
President and Chief Executive Officer

And we, so we're just, we're taking what the market gives us. And we don't think we have to rent our way to prosperity, but we will, you know, we don't think we'll ever be out of the rental home fleet business either.

speaker
Kyle Stanley
Analyst at Desjardins

Okay, no, that makes sense. Thank you for that. And just the last one, just on GNA, was hired this year, I think you noted obviously higher staffing, I think we've heard about that being a driver of the cost profile over the last few quarters, but also some higher kind of consulting and legal fees. So I'm just wondering if you can elaborate a little bit and would you say this is a good run rate for GNA? Or, you know, is there additional cost in this as you know, you stabilize some of, and integrate some of the 2024 acquisitions as well?

speaker
Kurt Kinney
President and Chief Executive Officer

Eddie, you want to jump

speaker
Kyle Stanley
Analyst at Desjardins

in?

speaker
Eddie Carlyle
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, so what I'd say is obviously the increase in spend was kind of, it was pretty broad, it was a number of areas. In this quarter's data, I won't say there's one time items. What there are is there's a couple of annual items that we end up having to pay once a year that account for about $200,000 of that amount. So as far as a run rate, I think it is a pretty good run rate, kind of less those items for Q3 and Q4. As we kind of continue to position ourselves for future growth, I think, again, we did a little more platform expansion. And to your point, you know, we obviously did add community, so there's some more roles that are added as well. So yeah, I mean, I think it's a pretty good run rate, less those kind of, what I'll call an annual expense that will certainly come back next year, but you shouldn't see the same thing in Q3 and Q4.

speaker
Kyle Stanley
Analyst at Desjardins

Okay, perfect. That's it for me. I'll turn it back. Thanks, Chris. Thanks,

speaker
Operator

Joe. Thank you so much. And as a reminder, if you do have a question, simply press star one one to get in the queue. Our next question is Himanshu Gupta with Scotiabank. Please proceed.

speaker
Himanshu Gupta
Analyst at Scotiabank

Thank you and good morning. Good morning, Himanshu. Just looking at the IFRS NAV per unit, I mean, it's up almost 10% year to date of nicely. What is driving your portfolio value assessment higher in the year so far?

speaker
Kurt Kinney
President and Chief Executive Officer

Eddie, you wanna jump into that?

speaker
Eddie Carlyle
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, absolutely. So we've not had any change to our IFRS cap rate this year at all. It's still at the .11% as it has been since January 1st. We've continued to, it's the same community in a wide growth, right? We're looking at capitalizing the trailing 12 analyze, as we do our evaluations. And we continue to see significant same community in a wide growth, driven by kind of the areas Kurt talked about, which from there, it's kind of math that it's driving the portfolio to continue to grow in value. And that's what we're seeing. Rental homes, which is part of that investment properties, we continue to see that have, you would expect some declines in fair value, but the good growth in our same community, in our I continues to drive the evaluation up.

speaker
Himanshu Gupta
Analyst at Scotiabank

All right. And Eddie, like what percentage of portfolio is externally appraised every year?

speaker
Eddie Carlyle
Chief Financial Officer

So we appraise one third of the portfolio annually. That was up until last year, we did 100%. Had a change due to some discussions with the auditors. They thought it would be better that we were doing a third. So we do one third external third party valuation every year.

speaker
Himanshu Gupta
Analyst at Scotiabank

Okay. And just to follow up there, I mean, if I look at the value of portfolio per lot, I think it's almost like $75,000 per lot. Is that where the market is? Then you go out for acquisitions in your target markets.

speaker
Kurt Kinney
President and Chief Executive Officer

Can I

speaker
Eddie Carlyle
Chief Financial Officer

let Kurt speak to that one?

speaker
Kurt Kinney
President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, I think it is, but it depends on where you're at and are you buying a stabilized property or not. So in general, our portfolio is stabilized. And again, when we're talking about having same community operational, you know, I gained because of these bulk agreements and then you turn around and talk about it, you're being at starting to approach some all time highs in 46% of the outstanding portfolio in occupancy. You know, you're starting to really see the benefits of a longterm strategy of home ownership. And therefore you're gonna get the higher, that's how you get the higher margins, right? Home ownership, drive the occupancy up. It's a slow process, but as you get there, it gets very valuable. So yeah, I'm not, I think we're right there on the stabilized properties that are out there. And yeah, you could buy lower than that, but normally you're buying some kind of volatility or some kind of, you know, you've got to go roll up your sleeves and get to work.

speaker
Himanshu Gupta
Analyst at Scotiabank

And maybe if I was right, you know, I think in one of your remarks, you mentioned Blackstone is putting some product in the market. I mean, what kind of pricing are they looking for? Nathan, I thought you.

speaker
Nathan Smith
Chief Investment Officer

Yeah, well, what I saw in it, just so you know, we didn't bid on it. It was a sub-forecast.

speaker
Himanshu Gupta
Analyst at Scotiabank

And like which markets we're talking here?

speaker
Nathan Smith
Chief Investment Officer

So I think one was in Washington, one was in Cincinnati, and the other one was in Stink, Atlanta. That's right,

speaker
Himanshu Gupta
Analyst at Scotiabank

Ned. Okay, thank you, guys, and very helpful. And I will turn it back.

speaker
Operator

Thank you. Thanks, Imachi. Thank you so much. And our last question comes from the line of Jimmy Chan with RBC Capital Markets.

speaker
Jimmy Chan
Analyst at RBC Capital Markets

Hey, guys. I just have one quick question. So just on occupancy, you'd mentioned, so you're currently at 85, and several of your markets are in the 95, but I guess if you don't buy or create any more vacancy, what do you think is a reasonable timeframe over which you think you can achieve a 95% occupancy?

speaker
Kurt Kinney
President and Chief Executive Officer

I think the modeling should be 2% a year, and if you wanna be more conservative, use a point and a half. Again, and it's not because you're not moving new people in at a faster rate than that. One of the nuances about our industry is that the housing stock in the community gets a year older every year, right? So my point is if this park was built in the 70s or 80s, you've probably got some housing stock that's still in there from the 70s and 80s. And when that original user or the current user gets to a certain moment, that home has to leave because of age. So you can move in two people, but maybe you've got a little normal turnover there to make sure your housing stock's getting better every year. So I think it's one and a half, 2% year growth on a stabilized community is a good model.

speaker
Jimmy Chan
Analyst at RBC Capital Markets

Okay, so the pace is somewhat dictated by the fact that the houses are aging and it is a natural turnover, which takes time to replace.

speaker
Kurt Kinney
President and Chief Executive Officer

Correct, and it depends on the original owner too, right? So we've purchased some of these communities. Some owners like to rehab 1970 series homes and resell those, we don't like to do that. But if the original owner was selling new homes all the time, then that actually housing stock doesn't have as much of that turnover. But in the first example, yeah, you have to muscle that through until you get the average age up a little bit.

speaker
Jimmy Chan
Analyst at RBC Capital Markets

Yeah, okay, great, thank you.

speaker
Operator

Thank you so much, and this concludes our Q&A session. I will turn it back to Kurt Kinney for final comments.

speaker
Kurt Kinney
President and Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, operator, and thank everyone for participating today. Please feel free to reach out to our investor relations team at IR at flagshipcommunities.com if you have any questions. Have a great day.

speaker
Operator

And ladies and gentlemen, this concludes our conference. Thank you all for participating and you may now disconnect.

Disclaimer

This conference call transcript was computer generated and almost certianly contains errors. This transcript is provided for information purposes only.EarningsCall, LLC makes no representation about the accuracy of the aforementioned transcript, and you are cautioned not to place undue reliance on the information provided by the transcript.

-

-