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spk06: Thank you for standing by. This is the conference operator. Welcome to the NEXUS Industrial REIT third quarter 2024 results conference call. As a reminder, all participants are in listen-only mode and the conference is being recorded. After the presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To join the question queue, you may press star then one on your telephone keypad. Should you need assistance during the conference call, you may signal an operator by pressing star then zero. I would now like to turn the conference over to Kelly Homswick, Chief Executive Officer. Please go ahead.
spk05: Thank you very much. Joining me today is Mike Gall, Chief Financial Officer of the REIT. Before we begin, I'd like to caution with regard to forward-looking statements and non-GAAP measures. Certain statements made during this conference call may constitute forward-looking statements which reflect the REIT's current expectations and projections about future results. Also during this call, we'll be discussing non-GAAP measures. Please refer to our MD&A and the REIT's other securities filings, which can be found on our website and at cedar.com for cautions regarding forward-looking information and for information about non-GAAP measures. Through 2023 and the first half of 2024, we invested to improve our business. Our goal was to high-grade and optimize our portfolio, taking advantage of uncertain economic backdrop and a weaker real estate market to acquire and develop high-quality assets at attractive prices. We made 10 targeted acquisitions and we advanced four development projects, three of which are already cash-flowing. In the third quarter, we enter the next phase of our plan. We are deleveraging our balance sheet and focusing our business further on the industrial sectors through the sale of our legacy office and retail portfolios, and some non-core industrial buildings, and this quarter we made great headway. In September and October, we announced the sale of our portfolio of eight old Montreal office properties, as well as an opportunistic sale of excess land in Fort St. John, B.C. Now I'm excited to share that all of our legacy retail portfolio, except for one building, is now under a firm sale contract, which is scheduled to close by the end of the year. In addition, we have a firm sale contract for four non-core industrial buildings in Regina, Saskatchewan, which will close in December. We also made progress on the remaining office buildings. We now have two more under firm sales contracts that are scheduled to close before the end of the year, and an additional one under a PSA and in due diligence. This leaves us with one remaining retail building and two office buildings. The retail building, Les Halles d'Anjou, has surplus land, which we are selling separately from the building. Once the land is sold, we will then move to sell the building in the new year. Of the remaining office buildings, as mentioned, one office is under a sale contract, which is not yet firm, and the final two are joint ventures, and we are not currently marketing them. All told, we are targeting non-core asset sales of approximately $110 million in the second half of 2024, and I'm confident that we'll achieve the goal. We'll use the proceeds from the sales to reduce our debt balance. After completing these sales, our mission to be Canada's pure play industrial will be complete, and our industrial NOI concentration will be nearly 100%. Turning to operating performance, we had a strong third quarter. Our normalized FFO improved 5.6% to 18.8 cents per unit, and our normalized AFFO improved 6.8% to 15.8 cents per unit. In both cases, the increase was driven by stronger net operating income, which was up 3% or $1 million compared to last quarter and was up 11% or $3.2 million compared to a year ago. This NOI increase was largely driven by three factors, acquisitions, organic growth, and development. I'll discuss each of these more in detail. Newer properties that we acquired in the past year contributed $2.7 million in NOI for the quarter. Within the quarter, we acquired a brand-new single-tenant industrial property in Sherbrooke, Quebec, that was a build-to-suit for an existing tenant. The purchase price was $16.6 million at a fixed cap. As part of the consideration, we issued the vendor $4.6 million of Class B LP REIT units at $10 per unit, a 45% premium to our trading price on that day. The 62,000-square-foot building is fully tenanted, brand-new, and contributed $200,000 of NOI in the quarter. Our industrial same property net operating income was $26.3 million in the quarter, a $1.4 million increase from a year ago. The increase was driven primarily by the lease up of our Richmond, BC property. This quarter our results benefited from the resolution of two key vacancies that impacted the first and second quarter. On August 1st, a new tenant took the full 29,000 square feet at our 102 Avenue Southeast Calgary building, and at our Exeter Road facility in London, Ontario, a new tenant moved in mid-August, taking all 68,000 square feet of vacant space. Our Titan Park development in Saskatchewan was the first of our recent development projects to be completed. We finished it on schedule and slightly below budget, and the primary tenant took occupancy of 204,000 square feet April 1st. The property contributed a healthy 500,000 of NOI this quarter. We have also inked the tenant for the remaining 109,000 square feet, which takes occupancy in February 2025. Once fully leased, this property will add annual stabilized NOI of approximately $3.8 million, representing a 7.9% cap rate on our investment of $48 million. We still have six acres of land at that site that we are possibly looking to finish and lease as truck parking in the future. This quarter, we also benefited from our Hubrie Road industrial intensification project in London, Ontario. We completed this 96,000 square foot building in July, and the tenant took occupancy mid-month. The project will yield 8.4% in the first year on development costs of $14 million, and the project has significant rent escalations thereafter. It also builds on our leadership position in the highly desirable London market, which continues to be one of the tightest industrial markets in Canada. We also completed our 115,000 square foot Glover Road new build in Hamilton by the airport. We own 80% of the property and will earn 5.9% going in yield on our $25 million share of the development costs. We're currently looking for a tenant I'm optimistic that will be leased in the first half of 2025. Construction is ongoing at our Dennis Road property in St. Thomas, Ontario. This project is a 325,000 square foot expansion for an existing tenant at an estimated cost of $49 million. The tenant pays a 7.0% interest on the development costs that we incur during the construction phase, so there's no drag on our cash flow. When it is completed in the first quarter of 2025, the tenant will pay us rent equal to 9% yield on all the development costs. We have also just started construction of 115,000 square foot small bay industrial building on vacant land that we hold at 102 Avenue in southeast Calgary. The total project cost is about $15 million, and we expect it to be completed mid-2025 and to deliver a 12% unlevered return. Leasing signs are up, and the response has been excellent for this highly desirable small bay design. On a full year basis, I expect that the actions we have taken in the positive benefit of embedded rent escalation will drive mid-single-digit same-property NOI growth in our industrial property portfolio. Looking beyond 2024, I continue to expect to earn a healthy rent lift on renewals due to the industrial market rents that are, on average, 26% above in-place rents, and from rent escalation embedded into our lease contracts. In summary, I expect our results will continue to improve from here. We have firm sales contracts for our legacy office, retail, and non-core industrial portfolios, which will further focus our portfolio and de-lever our balance sheet. We have also resolved key vacancies. Our creative developments are coming online, and we will continue to realize significant organic growth through embedded rent steps and positive mark-to-market on renewals. We have built a strong team, and by the end of the year, our mission to be the Canadian-focused pure play industrially will be complete, and we will set ourselves up nicely for future growth. I'll now turn the call over to Mike to give some more color on our financials.
spk10: Thank you, Kelly, and good morning, everyone. Starting with headline earnings in the quarter, net loss was $46.0 million. a $122.9 million decrease compared to a net income of $77.0 million last year. The decrease was due to non-cash fair value adjustments on Class B LP units on investment properties and on derivative financial instruments that combined were $121.1 million lower than last year. This was partially offset by higher net operating income in the quarter. Our third quarter net operating income was $32.6 million, an increase of 11%, or $3.2 million compared to last year. Of this amount, new acquisitions accounted for $2.7 million and growth in same property NOI added $1.2 million. Normalized AFFO for the period was 15.8 cents per unit, a decrease of one cent per unit from a year ago, as the benefit from higher net operating income was offset by a combination of higher interest expense and more units outstanding. Total general and administrative expenses for the quarter were $1.9 million, which was half a million dollars higher than a year ago, predominantly due to higher employee costs and legal fees. Net interest expense in the quarter was $14.0 million, a $3 million increase from the same period last year. The increase was primarily due to a higher average outstanding debt balance resulting from borrowings to fund acquisitions and construction at our Titan Park, Hubrie, Glover, and Dennis Road projects. At September 30th, 2024, our NAV per unit was $13.06, a 14 cent per unit decrease from last quarter. Our weighted average cap rate increased by one basis point to 5.81% in the quarter, compared to 5.80% at June 30, 2024. The carrying value of our investment properties increased by $41.1 million in the quarter, primarily due to the acquisition of an industrial property in Sherbrooke, Quebec, for $16.6 million, development spend of $15.4 million, and $11.1 million of positive fair value adjustments. I'll now turn the call back to Kelly.
spk05: All right, thanks, Mike. I'm excited about the progress that we've made to date, and I look forward to continuing our momentum through the fourth quarter and into 2025. So with that, operator, please open the lines to any questions.
spk06: We will now begin the question and answer session. To join the question queue, you may press star, then 1 on your telephone keypad. You will hear a tone acknowledging your request. If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing any of the keys. To withdraw your question, please prep store them too. We will pause for a moment as callers join the queue. And our first question comes from Brad Sturt of Raymond James. Please go ahead.
spk11: Hey, good morning. Good morning. Just maybe starting on the development pipeline, just looking at the table, you provided it looks like five or six projects in the planning stage right now. At this point, as we sit here today, what could we expect in terms of new starts heading into 2025?
spk05: Right now, all we have planned in the immediate planning is the Calgary, which is going. After that, I think over the next several months, we'll start to identify some others that we may have in London and see what the demand is like. But I know we have a couple in London that are easily expanded upon depending on the tenant demand. So they may pop up next year. But right now, what's in the immediate pipeline is the Calgary asset.
spk11: And at this point, are you waiting for, I guess, is it more like a build-a-suit sort of process, or would you start anything on spec?
spk05: Yeah. If we were to start anything on spec summer right now, I think it would be in the small bay. Small bay, depending on where you are, has pretty solid demand right now just from the user base. possibly maybe in Kelowna, maybe actually probably just there. And if we were to do in London, it would be for an expansion probably of one of our existing tenants.
spk11: Okay. Last question. Just on capital allocation, clearly it sounds like the initial plan with sales proceeds is to repay debt. But how do you think about... you know, resuming a little bit more of an active program on the acquisition front next year?
spk05: Yeah, I mean, ultimately, we do want to pay down debt. So that's our immediate plan. We do have our eyes on some pretty good acquisition opportunities. If we can do them and keep our debt in check, then we would pursue them. Otherwise, we'll see how the market pans out over the next quarter or two. I'd say before you make any kind of significant moves.
spk11: I guess any acquisitions in the pipeline today would be more like share deals in terms of the opportunity set today?
spk05: Yeah, I mean, it's tough to issue a unit deal right now where we're trading at a significant discount and trying to get closer to where we would like to do a deal at. So it's really going to depend on unit price going forward.
spk04: Okay. Thank you.
spk03: The next question comes from Jimmy Sean of RBC Capital Markets.
spk06: Please go ahead.
spk00: Thanks. Just a couple of questions as we look out to 25. First, do you have an estimate of what the contractual running escalation would look like sort of portfolio-wide for 25. And then on the expiries, I recall last quarter you talked about a large tenant in London that you're working on, and so do you have any update on that front?
spk05: I'll start off with the London one. It's still a bit early. That's kind of more, I believe, a mid-year one, and they tend to leave it closer towards that renewal time, so I'm pretty sure they'll stay. They've been at that site for quite a while. I'll pass it to Mike for the other one.
spk10: Yeah, so we've laid out in our MD&A page 13, you can see basically the average where we're at by average in-place rent of expiries by... and I would use that as your guideline for coming up with a rough total renewal rate going forward. It's a bit early for us at this point, Jimmy, to start to give a forecast for next year.
spk05: Yeah, and actually, Jimmy, to answer your question, I think one of the other ones in London is an end-of-year expiry and a fairly significant one, and we actually are speaking with the tenant right now. So we'll see how that goes. But that's where we have a significant amount of lift on renewal.
spk00: Okay. And your rent expectation, whether it's on those leases or whether it's on the Glover lease up, they're about the same as it would have been? Yeah.
spk01: I mean, Glover right now, I would say...
spk05: From where I think the development started to where it is today, maybe some expected rent could have been 16, and now you're probably talking 15, somewhere around there. So it has dropped off there. London, not so much of a drop-off. So there's still, for a larger space, there isn't a lot available. So at the end of the day, you're still talking in that $12 note.
spk00: Okay. Actually, just one last, just a modeling. In the three assets, development assets, you talked about Hubri, Glover, Titan. Those were all transferred into income-producing properties, correct?
spk10: Yes, they were. So Titan was in Q2, and Hubri and Glover were both in Q3. Great. Thank you.
spk03: Next question comes from Kyle Stanley of Desjardins.
spk06: Please go ahead.
spk07: Thanks. Good morning, guys. You had talked about seeing, you know, new acquisition opportunities. I'd just be curious to know what type of assets are you seeing out there? What geographies? I just would love to understand how you're thinking about that external growth program evolving in 25 after, you know, potentially dealing with the leverage.
spk05: Yeah, I mean, we're seeing some decent ones in London still. One, because we are the biggest landlord there, so I think we're pretty well connected. We've seen some in Edmonton and Calgary, Montreal, Toronto. I would say those are where we're really focused overall. It's going to depend on our cost of capital, what what we do, anything we probably do will have to be nicely accretive from here. We've already high graded the portfolio significantly, so we'd be looking to add to it. GTA is always a target for us. I think you can find some better deals here, but maybe that's mixed with something out west at the same time on a blended cap rate basis. Right now, it's been a huge focus on just getting rid of the retail and the office portfolio, which has been challenging, but we're happy with the results of it. It took us a while, but we're actually pretty happy with the overall results. So we're focused on closing those, and then we'll start taking a good hard look at what we do going forward once we pay down our debt and see where we are.
spk07: Okay, that makes sense. Just because you highlighted there the disposition program, can you remind us, you know, how much debt might be on those assets that are being sold? Just trying to think about the net proceeds that could be allocated then to repaying your debt.
spk10: Roughly 65% of total, 65, 70%. 70% LTD. Okay, perfect.
spk07: And then one of the ones just, you know, you talked about Glover road and now maybe you've pushed your, your leasing assumptions out to the middle of, uh, next year. Just curious, you know, what kind of tenants are you targeting for the asset? What might be causing a delay? Is it just general market softness? Just curious in your thoughts.
spk05: Yeah, there's some competition out there. Um, you know, I, I, I hate to jump the gun. We're fairly close. I'm, I'm hearing on, uh, One, I think they've narrowed down to our property. So whether we get it over the line or not, but I think the overall tenant pool in that market has just taken a pause for a little bit. You know, that whole Guelph, Cambridge, that whole little node going across through into Hamilton, there's been product that's been delivered. So it's just slower overall for the past. I'd say six, eight months. And the good news, I'm hearing some positive about it starting to pick up a little bit. So we'll see how it goes. But I'm fairly confident that who we're speaking with now, we should be able to get over the line. So hopefully we can and then have that leased and off our plate in a long-term deal.
spk07: Okay, that makes sense. Just the last one. Last quarter, I think, committed industrial occupancy was about 98%. This quarter, I know it's about 97%. Can you talk about any changes that might have occurred there?
spk10: Yeah, two changes. One is Glover Road is now being included in that number, in the denominator. So now that that's moved out of property under development and into IPP. So as we spoke through, we expect that will be leased up in 2025. Okay. And then the other one is we do have at 855 Park Road in Saskatchewan, the tenant left there at the end of September. So that one's vacant at this point.
spk07: Okay.
spk04: That's it for me. I will turn it back. Thanks, guys.
spk03: The next question comes from Sumayad Syed of CRBC.
spk06: Please go ahead.
spk12: Thanks. Good morning. Just on the leasing side, looking at the Mark II market spread, it went up a little bit from last quarter. It looks like Alberta spreads improved sequentially. On the flip side, market rent in Quebec was down from last quarter. Can you just provide some color on these markets and generally where you're seeing market rents trending these days?
spk05: Yeah, so I think Calgary West has took a little uptick. So it's been a fairly strong market out there. Like I said, we've broken ground on our small bay. And from my speaking with the brokers, the signs literally just went up and their phones started to ring. So the small bay has been fairly strong out there. And it always tends to be in demand. So that's why we went that route. So that was an uptick. Montreal has, I think, definitely come down a little bit. The demand's weakened a little. We're still doing some pretty solid deals out there, again, in our smaller bay because that's what we have near the airport where some of the renewals were pretty good. But I think overall the market has dropped a little. And I think even if you looked at GTA, Same thing, just a little bit of weakness in the market where it's been a little overbuilt in that Cambridge Guelph area, which I think is driving down overall market rents a little bit. So until that gets leased up, I think you're going to see it flat. And I am hearing guys giving a little bit more concessions and dropping the face rates a bit. So that's kind of what's overall driving. London, though, is still pretty strong. not overbuilt, nothing really coming online. So it's holding pretty stable there.
spk12: Okay. And then in your own assets, have you had to offer concessions, for example, in Montreal or in the GTA markets you referenced?
spk05: No. I mean, I'm looking at our new leasing. Some of the deals were done quite a while ago. um so it hasn't uh really affected us on on that level yet i would say on a new lease in glover what what we planned versus where we would be would be slightly off our model um where we thought maybe we could push into the six percent returns it's probably more like 5.9 just um from what we'd have to put into the deal and where the face rent is. So a little bit more. That's the real big one. The one we did in Regina, honestly, it was a great deal. Put us ahead of our returns. So it's a little bit of a mixed bag all over the country.
spk12: Okay. And then just on occupancy, any known move-outs? I know Mike just mentioned one at the end of September. Are you expecting an uptick in vacancy in the near term and short term, maybe as you focus on prioritizing rent, you know, as some of your peers are seeing a bit of that play out in terms of transitory vacancies?
spk05: Yeah, no, I think we will be pretty stable around these levels. Call it the 97, 98%. Okay, thank you. I'll turn it back.
spk03: Okay, I'll turn it back.
spk06: The next question comes from Ray Kelliff of BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
spk09: Thank you. Good morning. Maybe on capitalized interest, it went up a bit higher this quarter. Can you give some color on that?
spk10: So, yeah, I mean, it's been relatively flat through the year. And I think the, you know, we had this quarter we had greater spend at our St. Thomas facility. So we're building up this new facility in St. Thomas, Ontario, which is $48 million total spend, and we have an increase of $9 million of spend this quarter there, and it's led to higher cap interest there.
spk09: Got it. Thank you. And so you delivered Hubby Road and Glover Road this quarter, and they were moved to YPP from PUDD. And current balance on your balance sheet is close to $75 million. But if I look at your development table, the current cost incurred is roughly $55 million. So what's causing this difference of $20 million?
spk10: The other piece is our 1584 South Service Road. 1584. Yeah, South Service Road. We have about $20 million spent there. South Service Road in Hamilton, Ontario.
spk09: Got it. Thank you. And then, so in S2 2024, you're planning to do $110 million of dispositions, so maybe for 2025. So what's your strategy going ahead for 2025? I know it's too early for you to give a guidance for 2025. But any color on sort of, you know, SP&I growth that you're expecting it for 2025, do you expect any acceleration in the rate? Any color would be appreciated.
spk10: Yeah, really too early for us to give guidance on that front. I mean, we're going through our budgeting process now. And when we've got that nailed down, we'll be able to give you guys a solid outlook like we did this year, which hopefully will paint the paths for you.
spk09: Okay, and don't lease term this year.
spk01: What's the retention rate?
spk10: Yeah, don't have that at hand, I'm afraid.
spk05: We can go offline and get it to you. It is pretty high. We haven't lost too many.
spk09: Got it. Okay, that's all from my side. Thank you. I'll turn it back.
spk03: The next question comes from Himashu Gupta of Gulshabank.
spk06: Please go ahead.
spk08: Thank you and good morning. So just on the development side, looks like you're starting work on Calgary small bay property. Kelly, did you say 12% unlevered return? That implies almost like $15 per foot rent. So that looks pretty strong.
spk05: Yeah, it is pretty strong. So the small bay in the node we're in in Calgary there, so that's adjacent to the one that we just leased that used to be formerly Canada Cardage. We moved Canada Cardage to Balzac in a new build there and we've released the building and we have six acres vacant. So call it, that's without an implied land value because we own the land already and we've just used to be leased all in one. So in those rents, the small bay. I think Calgary right now is pushing like around $12 net in the small bay commands, a higher rental rate, especially in around that 10, 10, 11,000 square foot spaces.
spk08: Yeah. And, you know, like looking at small bay, is it because of higher rents there? Because, you know, many of your otherwise properties are, you know, single tenant properties.
spk05: Yep. This one was a little different. The footprint is a little shallower, so it lends better to a small bay from a shipping perspective than a big box. When we were speaking with the brokers on how to maximize value on the land, we decided to go to the small bay. It really also affects the downtime. I think we'll have the majority of at least by the time we're opening up and finishing it off because Right now in that node, there was a new one down the road built. It leased up really, really fast at pretty competitive rates. So we're just following suit in what's in the demand for that area.
spk08: Got it. Thank you. And then vagina, I think the second leg also got done. Was it like very similar pricing, you know, $10 per foot range or any different?
spk05: It's higher. Okay. It's leased at higher than that. Yep.
spk08: Okay, good to know.
spk10: The good news with Regina is that we've been able to lease it up exceeding the business case, so it's coming in at 7.9, nearly 8% yield.
spk05: Yeah, we actually finished it off a little bit cheaper than what we planned, and our lease rates are a little bit higher, so it's pretty good. We do still have six acres left. um of land that we could pay for truck parking or gravel and uh so that could just be additional gravy next year uh in talking with our existing tenants it's they're pretty full they're pretty active they're pretty tight on their shipping so uh it could be something that we just lock into next year that's excellent okay uh and then just shifting on the expiries next year i think alberta some expiries are coming up do you
spk08: expect any space coming back in Alberta next year?
spk05: No, I don't think so. I think Alberta has been pretty strong with us. We've done a lot of the renewals already. There could be one or two smaller ones, I think. But I think right now it's looking pretty good.
spk10: We've leased up roughly 50% of next year's expiries already. A pretty healthy lift. So that's looking good.
spk08: Okay. And my view is to confirm 50% already done. This is out of, I mean, 205,000, what is shown in your lead expiry chart.
spk10: No, no, that's the remaining. So, I mean, we had what we had coming in, and what's remaining is the ones, the numbers that are on the, in the table in the MD&A. Got it. Okay.
spk08: Fair enough?
spk10: Yeah.
spk08: Thank you. And the last question is on the Ontario these expiries, I mean, again, next year, I mean, in-place rent is less than $7. I mean, is that correct? I mean, it looks pretty low. So it looks like, is it any one particular asset or property, you know, why this is lower? And we can definitely expect some lift on that.
spk05: Yeah, it's in London. It's got a very, very low in-place rent, just over $4 on one of them. Um, it's really two big ones, one in Chatham and one in London. And I think combined it's like 504,000 square feet. So, um, the one in London is where we expect to see significant amount of lift. The other one we'll see some smaller lift. It's a little bit more price-sensitive tenant, and it's Chatham, not London, which isn't as, I guess, active as London is. But on both of them, we're pretty positive on renewal and at a pretty good premium. Those are the two big ones. Awesome.
spk08: Well, then, Occupancy consistent, I think you mentioned, and the lifts, I think we can expect some stronger same property in my group next year, I believe. Okay. So I think I'll call it back. Thank you, guys.
spk04: Thank you.
spk03: This concludes the question and answer session.
spk06: I would like to turn the conference back over to Kelly Honsuk for any closing remarks.
spk05: Just thanks, everyone, for joining. We look forward to a really solid fourth quarter, and we'll see you next year on the next conference call.
spk03: That does conclude today's conference call. You may disconnect your line. Thank you for participating, and have a pleasant day.
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