2/28/2025

speaker
Andrew
Conference Operator

The contents of today's call are protected by copyright and may not be reproduced without the prior written consent of Payson Systems Inc. Please note the advisory is located at the end of the press release issued by Payson Systems yesterday which describe forward-looking information. Certain information about the company that is discussed on today's call may constitute forward-looking information. Additional information about Payson Systems including the risk factors relevant to the company can be found in its annual information form. Thank you. Good morning. My name is Andrew and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Payson Systems Inc's fourth quarter 2024 earnings call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you'd like to ask a question during this time, simply press star then the number one on your telephone keypad. If you'd like to withdraw your question, please press the pound key. Thank you. Celine Boston, CFO, you may begin your conference.

speaker
Celine Boston
Chief Financial Officer

Thank you, Andrew. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for attending Payson's 2024 fourth quarter conference call. I'm joined on today's call by John Faber, our president and CEO. I'll start today's call with an overview of our financial performance in the fourth quarter. John will then provide a brief perspective on the outlook for the industry and for Payson, and we'll then take questions. I'm very pleased to report on Payson's fourth quarter and full year 2024 results, which demonstrate the incorporation of our new completion segment, the resilience in our drilling segments, and growth in our solar and energy storage segment. As a reminder to listeners, Payson acquired and began consolidating intelligent wellhead systems or IWS on January 1st of 2024, creating a new completion segment for the company. As such, reference made to 2024 will include IWS's financial results, whereas 2023 will not. In 2024, Payson generated $414 million in consolidated revenue, a result that was 12% higher than revenue generated in 2023. Through a 10% decline in industry activity year over year, Payson's North American drilling segment generated annual revenue of $283 million, a result that was only 2% lower than the prior year. Payson's annual revenue per industry day grew by 8% from 2023 and was a new annual record for the company at $1,000.25 through continued gains in product adoption and improved price realization. Payson's newly acquired completion segment generated $52.6 million in revenue in 2024, a 15% increase from the revenue IWS generated in the 2023 year prior to being consolidated within Payson's results, and that significantly outpaced the 10% decline seen in active frack spreads in the U.S. Adjusted EBITDA in 2024 was $161.8 million, or 39.1% of revenue, compared to $171.5 million, or 46.4% in 2023. Revenue growth in 2024, coming from earlier stage segments, such as completions and solar and energy storage, is at lower margin levels than Payson's drilling segments, with the investments made for their current stage of growth. Further, within drilling segments, lower industry activity levels over a mostly fixed cost base impacted margins in 2024. Net income attributable to Payson for the year was $121.5 million, or $1.53 per share, and included a $50.8 million non-cash accounting gain relating to the acquisition of IWS. From a quarterly perspective, Payson generated a consolidated revenue of $107.6 million in the fourth quarter of 2024, compared to $93.3 million in the fourth quarter of 2023. With this revenue, Payson generated $42.1 million in adjusted EBITDA, or 39.1% of revenue. I'll now provide an overview of the fourth quarter by business unit. Against a challenging industry activity backdrop, particularly in the U.S., Payson's North American drilling business unit generated revenue per industry day of $1,000.46, a 5% increase from the fourth quarter of 2023. As a result, outpacing the 3% reduction in industry drilling activity, the North American drilling segment generated revenue of $71.8 million in the fourth quarter of 2024, which was 2% higher than the fourth quarter of 2023. The segment's cost base remained mostly fixed in nature and saw lower repair expenses in the fourth quarter, while depreciation and amortization expenses grew year over year with increased capital expenditures recently. Further, strength in the U.S. dollar versus the Canadian dollar in the fourth quarter of 2024 impacted U.S. dollar sourced revenue and expenses for the segment. Resulting segment gross profit of $43.4 million in the fourth quarter of 2024 was 4% higher than the $41.5 million generated in the fourth quarter of last year, highlighting the segment's operating leverage. Our international drilling segment generated $15 million in quarterly revenue and $6.5 million in segment gross profit in the fourth quarter. Prior year Q4 revenue and segment gross profit benefited from inflationary and foreign exchange factors with a significant devaluation seen in the Argentinian peso in that period. In our completion segment, IWS had 26 active jobs and revenue per IWS day of $5,668 through very challenging industry conditions in the fourth quarter of 2024. I'll remind listeners that revenue per IWS day will fluctuate depending on the mix of technology adopted amongst existing customers and further will be impacted by foreign exchange fluctuations with the U.S. and Canadian dollar. Reported revenue for the segment was $13.6 million, up from $12.5 million in the third quarter of 2024. Gross profit for the segment of $0.8 million represents operating expense investments made for the segment's current stage of growth, along with $5.5 million in depreciation and amortization expense associated with the property and equipment and intangible assets acquired on January 1st of 2024. Energy tool base, which is reported within our solar and energy storage segment, generated $7.2 million in quarterly revenue, a new quarterly record, and an increase of 49% from the 2023 comparative period, with the timing on deliveries of control systems driving the difference year over year. The segment's revenue will continue to fluctuate with timing of these deliveries going forward. Sequentially, revenue growth in the company's completions and solar and energy storage segments offset the seasonal declines in industry drilling activity leading up to the December holiday period. Revenue grew by 2% quarter over quarter as a result. Adjusted EBITDA of $42.1 million in the fourth quarter compares to $44.1 million in the prior quarter and reflects the addition of lower margin revenue from IWS and Energy Toolbase given their current stage of maturity and growth. Depreciation and amortization for the company has increased from $7.8 million in the fourth quarter of 2023 to $13.9 million in the current quarter. This increase is attributable to higher levels of capital expenditures in recent quarters, with growth-related investments within our completion segment, along with the depreciation and amortization associated with the fixed assets and intangibles capitalized as part of the IWS acquisition on January 1st of this year. Net income attributable to Payson for the three months ended December 31st, 2024, was $16.9 million, or 21 cents per share. compared to $8.5 million, or 11 cents per share, generated in the fourth quarter of 2023. Our balance sheet remains very strong, and coupled with our free cash flow generation, allows us to make growth-related investments while returning meaningful levels of cash to shareholders. In 2024, net capital expenditures were $69 million, which now includes the addition of capital expenditures for IWS's business as we make investments to build out their fleet of rental assets. Reflecting these investments, free cash flow in 2024 was $54.1 million compared to $97 million in 2023. With this free cash flow, we returned $51.4 million to shareholders through our quarterly dividend and share repurchase program and ended the quarter with total cash, including short-term investments, of $81 million and no interest-bearing debt. In summary, we continue to be well-positioned for growth within our established and resilient position within drilling, and our growing position in completions and solar and energy storage. I will now turn the call over to John for his comments on our outlook.

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John Faber
President and Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Celine. Our financial results for 2024 demonstrate the ability of our business to outperform industry activity. Our North American drilling segment declined by 2% compared to a 10% decrease in North American land drilling activity. North American revenue for Industry Day was $1,025 for the year, an 8% increase from 2023, largely driven by increased product adoption and, to a lesser extent, improved price realization. Revenue from our completion segment grew 15% from 2023 levels, far outpacing a 10% decrease in the reported number of active frack spreads in the United States, or 25% outperformance. In our international drilling segment, reported revenue decreased by 6% in 2024, with 2023 results benefiting from inflationary and foreign exchange factors in Argentina. Energy tool-based revenue increased 15% year-over-year from 2023 levels. Consolidated revenue for the year of $414 million was 12% higher than the prior year. Adjusted EBITDA for the year totaled $162 million, representing an adjusted EBITDA margin of 39%. Margins decreased from 2023 levels as a result of higher revenue contribution from the completions and solar and energy storage segments, where segment margins are lower at their current stage of development. We do expect the margins in these segments to expand over time as revenues increase. Fourth quarter results for 2024 similarly demonstrated our ability to outpace industry activity, particularly in our North American drilling segment, where a 2% year-over-year increase in quarterly activity outpaced a 3% decrease in industry activity, and in our completion segment, where a 9% sequential increase in revenue outpaced a 4% decrease in the number of active frack spreads in the United States in the quarter. We currently expect that North American land drilling activity in 2025 will be similar to 2024 levels, while completions industry activity for the year may be slightly lower owing to a stronger first half of 2024. In that context, we expect PaceOn to continue to outpace industry activity and to deliver meaningful growth and strong financial results. Both our drilling and completions businesses benefit from increasing complexity in drilling and completions operations. As customers continue to pursue automation and analytics efforts, including leveraging artificial intelligence applications and the establishment of real-time operating centers, access to consistent, reliable, high-quality data is increasingly important for both drilling and completions operations. Payson's experience over more than four decades in serving the data needs of the drilling market provide us with the ability to make meaningful advancements in helping customers access data across the entire well construction process. The gains that we have made in increasing North American revenue per industry day in our drilling segment and in expanding our customer base while maintaining a strong revenue per IWS day in our completions business should translate into continued outperformance against industry conditions. Our innovative new drilling mud analyzer provides continuous real-time readings of critical drilling mud parameters, and we are seeing higher adoption of our automation products. Our well site automation products provide valuable safety and efficiency benefits for customers in their completions operations. And we are working closely with customers to develop compelling data management solutions for the completions market, benefiting both operators and service companies. Strong bookings of control systems in our solar and energy storage segment in 2024 are expected to translate into further revenue gains in 2025. Our capital allocation priorities are driven by a focus on return on invested capital. Today, our highest expected returns on capital come from the organic investments we are making to continue the growth of our completion segment, coupled with the ongoing rollout of the mud analyzer in our drilling-related business. In 2025, we expect to spend approximately $65 million in capital expenditures. We will continue to pursue disciplined shareholder returns over time through our regular quarterly dividend and share repurchases. We aim to consistently deploy capital to share repurchases through market cycles, thus buying back a larger number of shares during periods of market weakness and less shares when the market is stronger. We are maintaining our quarterly dividend at 13 cents per share and preserving flexibility to continue repurchasing shares in the current environment of uncertainty. We evaluate our capital program with a focus on increasing revenue, generating free cash flow, and creating value for shareholders over time rather than simply in response to prevailing near-term industry conditions. Our balance sheet remains strong. At December 31st, we had $81 million in total cash, including short-term investments, and positive working capital of $121 million. We would now be happy to take any questions.

speaker
Andrew
Conference Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, We will now begin the question and answer session. Should you have a question, please press the star followed by the number one on your touchtone phone. You will hear a prompt that your hand has been raised. Should you wish to decline from the polling process, please press the star followed by the number two. If you are using a speakerphone, please lift the handset before pressing any keys. One moment please for your first question. Your first question is from Keith McKee from RBC Capital Market. Please go ahead. Hey, good morning.

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Unknown

Morning, Keith.

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Keith McKee
RBC Capital Markets Analyst

Good morning. I'm just curious about the completion segment. Can you just talk a little bit more about where you are in terms of the rollout of the completion of the IWS business? And ultimately, what needs to happen to see the margin inflection that you talked about there in your prepared remarks, John?

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John Faber
President and Chief Executive Officer

Sure, Keith. In terms of the rollout of where we are in the completion segment, it's still fairly early days in the completions market for this type of technology, right? So we would continue to estimate that the rollout of this technology is probably somewhere in the order of 25% to 30% of the overall market for all providers of this type of technology. And our best information would suggest that our completion segment would have the largest share of that portion of the market. But there's still a long ways to go in terms of overall market adoption. We certainly have a number of customers who are using the technology across all or most of their completions operations. But we have some customers who are continuing to roll it out within their various operations. And then, of course, we're continuing to add new customers around that. So, In terms of the rollout, there's what needs to happen next for revenue to continue to grow. I guess there's the overall market needs to continue adopting more. Some of the existing customers who aren't using it on all of their operations yet continuing to adopt it across more of their fleets and then continuing to add new customers. I'll let Celine comment on the trajectory of margins and sort of what it would take to get to similar margins we see on the drilling side.

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Celine Boston
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, so, I mean, a couple dynamics there, Keith, as you know. One is we're investing in advance of the revenue showing up. The cost base on the completion side would be much like what you're used to seeing on the drilling side in that it's mostly fixed in nature. You have to make those investments in advance of that revenue growth showing up. And then the second part is that the business is just not fully at scale yet. So I would say at scale we continue to believe that the completion segment is capable of generating drilling-like margins, but it's going to take a little bit of time to get there.

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John Faber
President and Chief Executive Officer

I guess maybe the other comment I would quickly add, Keith, when you talk about kind of continuing to come back, we talked a lot in 2024, if you recall, about some of the headwinds that that segment would have seen in terms of natural gas prices and also customers involved in M&A transactions. We think that kind of normalizes through 2025, so we think that would help on the activity side. I think if we look at the fourth quarter of the completion segment, I think the performance of that segment was a bit of an outlier relative to other North American completions providers. which is an indication of the continued ability to gain new customers and see some of those customers increasing their activity.

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Keith McKee
RBC Capital Markets Analyst

Got it. Thanks for that, Culler. Maybe just secondly on capital allocation, you talked about $65 million capital program. Can you just maybe discuss a little bit about where that's going to be allocated between maintenance and then the completion growth versus the mud analyzer?

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Celine Boston
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, as you know, Keith, it's difficult for us to completely bifurcate between maintenance and expansion because a lot of the CapEx that we incur on any given year is related to the refresh of our ongoing technology platform in our drilling infrastructure and our drilling business. And although there are parts of the technology that we have to update and refresh, it also allows us to do more with that technology, and it's more capable in the context of more capabilities for our customers, which potentially results in higher opportunities to improve prices. If you think about the breakdown of the $65 million, roughly $40 million would be allocated towards drilling. Some of that would be maintenance-type items like trucks for our field technicians and other day-to-day expenditures. And then the other piece would be that refresh of our technology platform that I talked about, and then also the ongoing build-out of our mud analyzer. And then roughly $25 million would be allocated towards our completion segment. And that's the continued build-out of the valve management and automation technology.

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Keith McKee
RBC Capital Markets Analyst

Okay. Got it. Thanks very much. Thanks, Keith.

speaker
Andrew
Conference Operator

Your next question is from Aaron McNeil from TD Cowen. Please go ahead.

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Aaron McNeil
TD Cowen Analyst

Hey, morning, all. Thanks for taking my question. Morning, Aaron. Morning. Maybe building on Keith's first question, you know, and I can appreciate market conditions are pretty tough, but Can you speak to the pace of customer acquisition at IWS? Like, are you adding new customers? Are you starting to grow again with existing customers? Like, what's sort of that dynamic look like?

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John Faber
President and Chief Executive Officer

Well, I guess at a high level, Aaron, I would say the adding new customers has actually been ahead of our expectations even through 2024, where we would have seen softer than we expected in 2024 was actually existing customers slowing their own activities down. And so the challenge in 2024 was that if a customer who was working on, I'm going to make up numbers, five or six jobs, would slow down to two or three, i.e. slow down by two or three jobs, you then have to find two or three new customers to each take one new job each as they trial the equipment. So there's kind of timing differences between those commercial endeavors. But the addition of new customers has actually gone very well through 2024 and continues to go very well. So we're very encouraged about that. And in some cases with these M&A transactions, we are now installing on the assets or the fleets of the acquired companies. And so that wouldn't be direct new customer acquisition, but exposure to a fleet that we might not have otherwise been on before. So the new customer acquisition is going very well. It's just when you're acquiring new customers, it tends to come one job at a time while you trial and then you scale from there. And when customers slow down activity, that can come in more, you know, two, three, four at a time.

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Aaron McNeil
TD Cowen Analyst

Gotcha. Okay, and similar question on the mud analyzer. Can you speak to its performance relative to, I guess, your own internal and customer expectations and what the potential appetite might be for other customers that might have to pay the full rate now that you've sort of got some operating in the field?

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John Faber
President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, so the mud analyzer is going quite well relative to our initial expectations. I think we've talked in previous calls about the fact that for customers outside of our technology partner on the particular technology, they may be a little less familiar with the data feeds that are coming from the mud analyzer. There may be some operational changes in their drilling operations to best utilize the technology. And so that has been things that have slowed a little bit the adoption outside of the technology partner. The technology partner is currently using it on all of their fleets, including fleets of companies they would have recently acquired. So So that has gone very, very well. We're growing the number of other customers using the technology. Encouragingly, we're moving people from their first trial to their second trial on companies that would have double-digit number of active drilling rigs. And so the most friction is always from zero to one. You always have a reasonable amount of friction from one to two, and then from two to three, three to four, and so on becomes less friction. And so we're quite encouraged about the ability to expand into growing the number with some of those customers who are now on kind of number two, if you will, on trajectory to double-digit types of rig fleets, and then adding new customers as well who are starting to use it for the first time. So it's going well there, but it's out now with all the fleets with the technology partner, and so now it's continuing to grow with other companies for growth on the mud analyzer side.

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Aaron McNeil
TD Cowen Analyst

Okay. Maybe I'll ask one more. I don't want to leave out Celine. Are there any firm targets for 2025 in terms of capital allocation to the buyback like is there you know anything internally even if you don't want to disclose it where you say we're going to put x dollars towards the buyback or do x number of shares yeah i i think for us the importance is the discipline around the continuous repurchasing and we as john said in his comments we see an opportunity today in light of ongoing uncertainty and what that potentially does from a

speaker
Celine Boston
Chief Financial Officer

from a stock market perspective to favor the buyback over the dividend.

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Aaron McNeil
TD Cowen Analyst

But nothing's concrete in terms of like a target?

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Celine Boston
Chief Financial Officer

No, I don't know that we'll be giving target numbers at this point.

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Aaron McNeil
TD Cowen Analyst

Fair enough. Thanks. Appreciate the time.

speaker
Celine Boston
Chief Financial Officer

You bet.

speaker
Andrew
Conference Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, as a reminder, should you have any questions, please press the star key followed by the number one. Your next question is from John Gibson from BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

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John Gibson
BMO Capital Markets Analyst

Morning, all. I just wanted to follow on Aaron's question, maybe ask it a different way. I mean, obviously, your valuation has compressed quite a bit. It looks solid in the U.S. and Canada, and you still build cash throughout 2024. I'm wondering if you could – I know it's in Payson's DNA to hold cash on the balance sheet, but I'm wondering if you could look a little bit into that cash balance to ramp the buyback here in 2025.

speaker
John Faber
President and Chief Executive Officer

Well, I think, John, it's been in our DNA to have more cash on the balance sheet in anticipation of having acquisition opportunities for changing the risk and growth profile of the company, i.e., the acquisition of IWS. So we would have carried quite a bit more cash in anticipation of the completion of the acquisition of the rest of IWS. We now carry quite a bit less cash. We continue to think it's a net cash business given the significant operating leverage of the business. And we don't see the need for the cash ballots to be higher than what it would be today. So, you know, then the question becomes, where do the incremental capital dollars get spent? There's a finite limit to the amount of capital you can put into organic investments or certainly the pace at which you can make organic investments in order to get appropriate returns on those investments. And so, you know, we do think the number one use of capital today is continuing to grow the completion segment. continuing to roll out more mud analyzers, but there's still surplus cash. The dividend has been a profile of the company for a very, very long time. And we've said that that will grow slowly and steadily over time. This quarter, of course, we've maintained the dividend in recognition of the fact that in the current environment of uncertainty, incremental shareholder return dollars are better deployed to a repurchase program than to the dividend side. But I don't think we see any need to build cash the way the company would have historically done. We see the ability to continue to grow the business as the first priority. And then beyond that, as we said, we would favor repurchases over incremental dividends in the current environment.

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John Gibson
BMO Capital Markets Analyst

That's fair. It seems to me like you can kind of do it all here, especially with where CapEx is at, you know, growth is at and maintenance is at. So you got to come, I guess. But thanks. I appreciate the response.

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Keith McKee
RBC Capital Markets Analyst

Thanks, John.

speaker
Andrew
Conference Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, as a reminder, should you have any questions, please press the star key followed by the number one. We will pause for any further questions. There are no further questions at this time. Please proceed with closing remarks.

speaker
John Faber
President and Chief Executive Officer

Appreciate everybody's time this morning joining us for the call. We'll look forward to speaking with you again when we release our first quarter results. But if you have any questions in the meantime, certainly don't hesitate to reach out to Celine or myself. Thanks very much for your time.

speaker
Andrew
Conference Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes your conference call for today. We thank you for participating and ask that you please disconnect your lines.

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