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Operator
All participants, thank you for standing by. The conference is ready to begin. Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to Western Forest Products' second quarter 2024 results conference call. During this conference call, Western's representatives may make forward-looking statements within the meaning of applicable securities laws. These statements can be identified by words like anticipate, plan, estimate, will, and other references to future periods. Although these forward-looking statements reflect management's reasonable beliefs, expectations, and assumptions, they are subject to inherent uncertainties and actual results may differ materially. There are many factors that could cause actual outcomes to be different, including those factors described under risks and uncertainties in the company's annual MD&A, which can be accessed on CDAR and is supplemented by the company's quarterly MD&A. Forward-looking statements are based only on information currently available to Western and speak only as of the date on which they are made. Except as required by law, Western undertakes no obligation to update forward-looking statements. Accordingly, listeners should exercise caution in relying upon forward-looking statements. I would now like to turn the meeting over to Mr. Stephen Hofer, President and CEO of Western Forest Products. Mr. Hofer, please go ahead.
Hofer
Thank you, Patrick, and good morning, everyone. I would like to welcome you to Western Forest Products' 2024 second quarter conference call. Joining me on the call today, Glenn Montel, our new Chief Financial Officer, Steve Williams, our Executive Vice President, and Bruce Alexander, our Senior Vice President, Sales, Marketing, and Manufacturing. We issued our 2024 second quarter results yesterday, which included the announcement that Glenn Montel will be our next CFO. In deciding who should fill the role of CFO, we looked both internally and externally. We wanted someone with the right mix of leadership, industry experience, and technical skills to help navigate through near-term macroeconomic conditions and advance our strategic priorities. Glenn's financial acumen, forward thinking, and laser focus on execution made him a clear choice from a number of strong candidates and speaks to the strength of the internal talent at Western. Steve Williams will remain in the role of Executive Vice President until his previously communicated retirement date of December 31st, 2024. We look forward to benefiting from Steve's advice and judgment as he moves to an advisory role thereafter. Turning to our second quarter financial results. We successfully navigated through more challenging market conditions to return our business to positive EBITDA in the second quarter, generating $9.4 million. This was This was the result of a huge effort across all of our operating divisions and driven by a focused effort on execution and safety. In Timberlands, despite facing ongoing harvesting permadean delays, we continue to improve the stratification of our specialty log sorts, such as pole and pier logs, to support incremental margins. In manufacturing, our continued focus on operational uptime and reliability supported improved results despite tight log supply at certain facilities. In sales and marketing, we continue to make progress growing key strategic accounts while developing value-added products and programs targeted with the end user in mind. In engineered wood products, we delivered another quarter of positive EBITDA despite labor and lamb stock availability challenges. In addition, we remain focused on accelerating our transition to higher-value products. Our new salt air kiln dried 14.5 million board feet of lumber in the second quarter and is achieving our uptime, production, and value performance targets. We also continue to advance pre-engineering and permitting related to our two previously announced continuous kilns Each kiln will have a capacity of approximately 70 million board feet and are expected to be completed in 2025. A continued focus on safety and maintaining a strong balance sheet while advancing our key strategic priorities remains our key focus in the near term. I will now turn it over to Glenn to review our key financial results.
Glenn
Thanks, Stephen. Second quarter adjusted EBITDA was $9.4 million. as compared to negative $12 million in the same period last year. As compared to the prior year, results in the second quarter benefited from higher lumber shipments, higher domestic log prices and a stronger log sales mix, and lower scumbage and freight expenses. This was partially offset by a slightly weaker lumber specialty sales mix and higher timberlands and secondary processing costs. We closed the second quarter with approximately 75 million board feet of lumber inventory and 777,000 cubic meters of log inventory. Turning to CapEx and cash flow, our revised 2024 total CapEx spending is now expected to be approximately $40 million. This reflects the expectation that the majority of the $35 million related to two new continuous kilns will be incurred in 2025. After the end of the second quarter, we received our income tax refund of approximately $23 million, which was utilized to reduce debt. From a balance sheet perspective, we ended the second quarter with liquidity of approximately $142 million and a net debt-to-cap ratio of 13%. Last week, we amended and extended our credit facility to July 2026. At the end of June, we had approximately $236 million in duties on deposits. which equates to approximately $0.54 per share after tax. Turning to third quarter seasonality, typical third quarters can be challenging operationally, as hot, dry weather can restrict logging activity, reduce harvest volumes, and impact cost. While we have yet to experience any significant forest fires in our area of operation, hotter and drier conditions combined with harvest permit delays may impact harvest volumes through the summer. We will continue to manage our manufacturing operating schedules to match production to market demand and available log supply. Stephen, that concludes my remarks. Thanks, Glenn.
Hofer
Turning to our market outlook, cedar demand and prices for timber and premium appearance products are expected to remain stable. Demand and price for cedar decking have firmed up, while cedar trim products are expected to remain soft for the balance of the year. In Japan, weakness in wooden home starts, well-stocked inventories, and the weaker Japanese yen to the U.S. dollar exchange rates are anticipated to impact lumber demand and prices in the near term. Demand for our industrial products is generally expected to remain stable. For commodity lumber, North American demand and prices are expected to remain volatile, while in China, near-term lumber demand and prices are expected to be seasonally weaker. Overall, we currently have a third quarter order file of approximately 108 million board feet. Looking ahead, we remain focused on building our profitable quarter while executing on our strategic priorities and maintaining a strong balance sheet. With that operator, we can open the call up to questions.
Operator
Thank you. We'll now take questions from the telephone lines. If you have a question, please press star 1 on your device's keypad. You may cancel your question at any time by pressing star two. Please press star one at this time if you have a question. There will be a brief pause while the participants register for questions. Thank you for your patience. First question is from Ben Isaacson from Scotiabank. Please go ahead.
Ben Isaacson
Good morning, everyone, and thank you for taking my call. First, very good to see the positive EBITDA this quarter. My first question is for Glenn. Congratulations on the appointment to CFO. Can you talk a little bit about your vision for the role and any wholesale changes that you want to make? Thank you.
Glenn
Thanks, Ben. I appreciate the comment. I think what I'd say is from a strategy perspective, we have a very well-defined strategy, and none of that is changing for the company. Very high focus around operational execution, focus on our First Nation partnerships, continually growing the business when the balance sheet warrants. So there's definitely no change from a strategy perspective. I think what I hope to bring to the role, and I know that I'm only one person in this broader organization that is important to the success of the business, but in my prior roles that I've been at before Western, there's been a very high degree on execution and uh, expediting execution. So, you know, what I hope to bring to this is, you know, continue to executing on our strategic priorities, but bringing sort of, uh, a faster cadence of, uh, getting, getting on with some of the priorities that we've set.
Ben Isaacson
That's great. And then just as a follow-up question, um, can you guys just talk a little bit about where you are in terms of the overall, uh, capacity utilization rate and how should we think about that rate, uh, through the back of the 24 and into 25. Thank you.
Hofer
Yeah, I can maybe comment on that, Ben. You know, currently what we're doing is being very disciplined in matching our operating rates relative to demand across all of our global markets. And that's overlaid against overall log supply. As you know, we have kind of three categories of fiber supply. small diameter chip and saw, the medium size gang log, and then the large diameter head rig log. Each of those sorts have different challenges when it comes to cutting permits and cup locks, but we'll be pretty disciplined, just like we've shown over the last year and a half around making sure that our inventory levels are in balance. Overall, a match of capacity relative to lumber demand. So don't expect much material change here for the balance of the year relative to what we've been focused on for the first half. That makes sense. Thank you very much.
Operator
Thanks, Ben. Thank you. The next question is from Sean Stewart. Please go ahead.
Sean Stewart
Thanks. Good morning, everyone. One follow-on question from Ben is, it seems like a big part of the success story in the second quarter was you guys were able to draw down your finished good inventories by quite a bit. And that's been the trend for most of the past couple of years. I guess in terms of gauging sustainability of this momentum, can you comment on further room to lower finished good inventories at this point, or are you tapped out on that front?
Hofer
Well, Sean, thanks for the question. Our focus is really around ensuring that we have an order file that matches production. I come from a bit of a background of everything that you make every day, you want to sell every day. You have 30 to 45 days worth of inventory at the max. We've had some challenges historically on overall because of the lack of kiln-dried capacity, having to take a lot of our volume outside that needs to be kiln-dried. And by definition, that provides a bit more complexity as well as having to hold a bit higher levels of inventory. But our focus is really to continue to draw that down and We have some pretty aggressive targets here in Q3 that we continue to be focused on. So we're not done yet.
Sean Stewart
Okay. That's good to hear. Stephen, any comments you can give with respect to negotiations with the union towards a new contract?
Hofer
Sure. I'll make a few general comments. We commenced negotiations... in April and those continue today. The current agreement expired in mid-June, so the prior collective agreement continues to apply as negotiations continue. We're committed to delivering a fair and balanced agreement that recognizes our employees' contributions while also ensuring our long-term competitiveness as a company. USW members represent about 1,000 of our team members, as well as additional members within our Timberland contractors. So there's ongoing discussions today, both on the manufacturing side and on the Timberland side, and I continue to be optimistic. We've committed to these discussions and they're being led by, by Jennifer. And, you know, so far I think we're, uh, we're making good progress and we'll keep everyone posted on those discussions.
Sean Stewart
Thanks for that detail. One, one last one, Steven, um, bigger picture question. You guys have underperformed comps, uh, both from a share price and valuation perspective the last couple of years, you know, aside from the discretionary CapEx plan and restructuring initiatives, um, Have you or the board considered bigger picture strategic initiatives to narrow the valuation gap? How much does that occupy of your headspace really, I guess, is the question.
Hofer
Yeah, it's a significant component of what I focus on every day and the discussions that I have with our board. You know, our view is that we have a very clear, concise strategic plan. It has five key strategic priorities and I think we've communicated those publicly in previous calls and we can certainly do that directly with you, Sean, as well on a subsequent call. But we remain optimistic around our ability to execute the strategic plan and that involves getting our business that we currently have running better from an overall reliability and uptime. It involves monetization of some of the tenures and we've shown that we can execute on those and we're going to continue to focus on those areas. We talked a bit about growth in the engineered wood business and we're making some progress organically with the Calvert with the Calvert acquisition. You know, we're very careful on what we're prepared to bite off, though, for tuck-in acquisitions, just relative to the balance sheet. We have the new credit agreement that Steve and Glenn were successful in putting in place, and we just want to be mindful that, you know, that's an important piece of our business is the overall integrity of that balance sheet. So, I'm, you know, I continue to be focused on those strategic priorities, and You know, our team is very much focused on the operational execution piece of the business every day, so that's what I would say about that.
Sean Stewart
That's great. Thanks very much for those responses, and congrats, Glenn. Well deserved. Thanks, John.
Operator
Thank you. The next question is from Matthew McKellar. Please go ahead.
Matthew McKellar
Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. You called out tight log supplies as a factor in Q2. And with that, I was wondering if you could provide just a bit more color on the warm weather and the impact on harvest levels you spoke to earlier on the call. Do you need to catch up to the balance of the quarter based on harvest volumes over the last couple of months to maintain production at the level you'd like, or are you more calling out whether it's a risk factor as the summer progresses?
Hofer
Thanks, Matt. I appreciate the question. I would say that... When we look at our Q3 forecast, we will have an increase in our log volume in Q3 here. Even though we ended the quarter at 770,000 cubic meters, I'm not overly concerned about that level. I think our team is also showing to ourselves that you know, the days of having, you know, 1.5 to 2 million cubic meters of log inventory are probably not needed. And, you know, when you look at the operating platform we have, our ability to execute on the timberland side very, very effectively, you know, I don't anticipate us going back to the era of, you know, a million cubic meters of log inventory. So, you know, is 777... a little light, maybe on a couple of sorts, but you can kind of see the results of the focus on timberlands with respect to stratification of different log sorts as well. We're really focused on the margin opportunity, on what log sort should we do on every cup block that is going to generate the highest margin for Western and our new financial partners on some of the partnerships that we have in place. So that's what I would share as far as our go-forward log inventory strategy.
Matthew McKellar
Okay, thanks very much. Next, recognizing the apportionment hasn't been completed yet, do you expect any impact to your business from the recent reduction to AAC in the North Island timber supply area? And how should we think about the range of outcomes here?
Hofer
Yeah, I don't think you'll see any material change. You know, those are really those numbers are really catching up to, you know, the current reality that we've been operating under for the last number of years. So you won't see any material change in the actual volume that we're harvesting. Those are kind of indicative of what we've been faced with.
Matthew McKellar
Okay. Thanks very much. And just one last clarifying question on – well, really to follow up on Sean's question around the union – Are you able to arrive at a resolution with the USW union as a company independently, or do you need a broader resolution that includes more of the coastal forest products industry?
Hofer
No, this is a specific negotiation between Western and the USW.
Matthew McKellar
Great. Thanks very much. I'll turn it back.
Operator
Thank you, the owner, for the questions at this time. I would like to turn the meeting back over to Mr. Hofer.
Hofer
Okay, well thanks everyone for joining our call today. We appreciate your interest in our company and look forward to our next call in November.
Operator
Thank you. The conference has now ended. Please disconnect your lines at this time and thank you for your participation.
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