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William Crosslands
CEO of Thermal Energy International

I'm William Crosslands, CEO of Thermal Energy International. Thank you for joining our earnings call for the second quarter ended November 30th, 2024. Our news release, financial statements and MD&A will be posted on our website and have been filed on CDAR. After my prepared remarks, we'll have a question and answer session, at which time qualified equity research analysts joining us on MS Teams, will be able to ask questions. If you're joining us online, you should be able to see our slide presentation on your screen now. First, I need to point out that today's earnings call may contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of applicable securities laws. Forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties, and undue reliance should not be placed on such statements. certain material factors or assumptions are applied in making forward-looking statements and actual results may differ materially from those expressed or implied in such statements. For additional information, please refer to our financial statements, our MD&A for the quarter and our other filings with the Canadian securities regulators. In terms of a quick overview, our revenue continued to be very strong in the second quarter. as we again set new records for quarterly revenue and revenue on a trailing 12-month basis. We remain profitable. However, changes in product mix and the investments we've made in the future growth of the business lowered our EBITDA and our net income for the quarter. Nevertheless, we continue to have positive operating cash flow. We exited the quarter with a strong balance sheet and we're well positioned for growth. Taking a closer look at our top line, our revenue for the quarter was a record $8.7 million, up from $7.1 million a year ago and more than double our revenue from the same quarter two years ago. Our turnkey heat recovery business was a standout performer, achieving its highest quarterly revenues in five years and record revenue on a trailing 12-month basis. The significant growth in our heat recovery business reflects continued strong demand for turnkey energy efficiency solutions and the effectiveness of our solutions in meeting our clients' needs. When looking at the trailing 12 months ending November 30th, our revenue is at an all-time high of $30.7 million, representing an increase of $4.6 million from the 12-month period the year before and more than double from two years ago. EBITDA, while the company remained profitable for the quarter, the substantial swing in product mix had a negative impact on our gross profit. EBITDA and net income. As many of you are aware, turnkey heat recovery projects, while contributing significantly to our top line growth, typically carry lower margins. This shift in revenue composition was the primary factor in influencing our profitability metrics this quarter. Our EBITDA for the quarter, was $270,000 compared to $830,000 a year ago and a loss of about $30,000 second quarter two years ago. In addition to product mix, our lower EBITDA reflects the higher expenses related to the substantial investments we've been making in the future growth of the business. For the trailing 12-month period, we had EBITDA of $1.6 million compared to $3.2 million the prior 12-month period and a loss of about $700,000 for the trailing 12 months ended November 30, 2022. As I called out in our previous earnings call, the trailing 12-month 2024 period included our exceptionally strong quarter for fiscal 2023, which had EBITDA of $1.2 million in that quarter alone. Meanwhile, our trailing 12 month 2025 had a higher cost base, mostly due to $2.3 million related to investments to drive future growth, including headcount, digitization and systems automation and costs related to our new larger UK plant. Most of the benefits of these investments are still to be realized. We had net income of $28,000 compared to $486,000 in the second quarter of last year and a loss of about $270,000 two years ago. For the trailing 12 months 2025, we had net income of $672,000 which was down from 2.1 million the year before, but still up significantly from a loss of 1.8 million two years ago. Similar to my comments on EBITDA on the prior slide, the trailing 12 months 2024 included our exceptionally strong fourth quarter, and the trailing 12 months 2025 expenses include the 2.3 million in the investments we made for future growth. Now let's talk about these investments a little bit. As we discussed over the last two years, we've been investing significantly in the future growth of the business, and most of the benefits of these investments are still to be realized. Our investments included moving our UK operations to a much larger production facility with more than double the throughput capacity, as well as growing our team, adding 18 new positions over the last two years. As you can see in the slide, we added six people to our sales and marketing team, 11 people to engineering and production, and one in finance and admin. On the technology side, we developed and launched a custom developed mobile app called CREST, which stands for Carbon Reduction and Efficiency Scoping Tool. which is exactly what it is because Crest helps our sales and engineering teams quickly and efficiently identify thermal energy savings and carbon reduction opportunities and projects while in sight with customers. We're also investing in a robust global accounting program and ERP software to create agility in our accounting, manufacturing and fulfillment. And again, while these investments have lowered our profitability in the short term, They will help drive profitable growth in the long term. Turning to our balance sheet, at the end of November, we had cash and cash equivalents of $2.8 million, which was lower this quarter due to temporary fluctuations in working capital items. At quarter end, we had $3.7 million in working capital and $1.9 million in debt. I'd like to highlight that even with the significant investments we're making for future growth, we continue to generate positive cash flow from operations, which is somewhat unusual for a company of our size, particularly our similarly sized peers. Over the last two years, we have reduced our debt by 1.8 million and increased our working capital by 1.9 million, all from internally generated cash flow. That's something we are quite proud of and plan to continue. Order intake. While order intake for fiscal 2025 started off slower than anyone would have liked, we were encouraged to see a sharp increase in the second quarter compared to the first quarter, driving our order intake to $10.1 million for the first six months of fiscal 2025 and resulting in an order backlog of about $13 million at the end of the second quarter. Both figures are still lower than they were a year ago, but our pipeline and value of projects and paid development with customers remains as strong as ever, and recent momentum we're seeing in the business is very encouraging. Since the end of the second quarter, we received an additional $5 million in orders, including the $2.8 million in repeat business from a leading multinational pharmaceutical, as we announced back in December. That was our third significant order from that customer since they signed a Global Master Services Agreement with us back in September 2023. So just over a year and a half. The orders received since quarter end increased our order backlog to about $18 million as at January 27th, 2025. In summary, we're proud of the record revenue performance achieved this quarter and over the trailing 12 months into November 30th. While the shift in product mix and our investment in future growth have lowered our profitability, we continue to have positive cash flow from operations and our balance sheet continues to strengthen. Importantly, while we have yet To really see the benefits from the significant investments we've made in the business, we believe they position us well for our next stage of growth, and we expect these investments will bear fruit for us in fiscal 2026 and beyond. This concludes my prepared remarks. I would now like to open the call for questions. I'll turn it over to Trevor Heisler at NBC Capital Markets Advisors, who will moderate our Q&A. Please go ahead, Trevor.

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Trevor Heisler
Moderator, NBC Capital Markets Advisors

Thank you, Bill, and good morning. If you are a qualified equity analyst joining us on MS Teams and would like to ask a question, please notify me by using the raise your hand feature at this time. And it looks like our first question will be coming from Jesus Sanchez from Cassinar Investments. Please wait a second while I unmute your line. Jesus, your microphone should be opened. Please go ahead. Okay, we don't seem to have Jesus here. We have Russell Stanley online. I'm going to unmute your mic, Russell. Just a second, please. Please go ahead, Russ.

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Russell Stanley
Equity Research Analyst

Yep. Good morning. Can you hear me?

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