Xcel Energy Inc.

Good day, everyone. Welcome to Xcel Energy's second quarter 2021 earnings conference call. Today's conference is being recorded. Questions will only be taken from institutional investors. Reporters can contact media relations with inquiries, and individual investors and others can reach out to investor relations. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Paul Johnson, Vice President, Treasurer in Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir.

Thanks, Nicole. Good morning, and welcome to Xcel Energy's 2021 Second Quarter Earnings Conference Call. Joining me today are Ben Folk, Chairman, Chief Executive Officer, Bob Frenzel, President and Chief Operating Officer, Brian Van Abel, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, and Amanda Rome, Executive Vice President and General Counsel. This morning, we will review our 2021 results and share recent business and regulatory developments. Slides that accompany today's call are available on our website. As a reminder, some comments made during today's call may contain forward-looking information. Significant factors that could cause results to differ from those anticipated are described in our earnings release and our SEC filings. Today we will discuss certain non-GAAP measures, including ongoing earnings, electric, and natural gas margins. Information on compatible GAAP measures and reconciliations are included in our earnings release. In addition, please note this is Ben Folk's last earnings call. He will retire as CEO in August, but will continue as executive chair of the board. Ben has been an outstanding CEO and will be missed. I'll now turn the call over to Bob.

Thank you, Paul, and good morning, everybody. Before we dive into quarterly results, I just want to take a few minutes to recognize Ben and thank him for his leadership. He's been a leader at Xcel Energy for two decades. as treasurer, CFO, president and chief operating officer, and then CEO and chairman of the board. And since he assumed the CEO role in 2011, we've been a national leader in reliability, customer service and safety, all hallmarks of excellent utility operations. And our operational performance has improved over that period. For example, we transformed our nuclear plants into one of the top ranked fleets in the nation. while lowering our cost structure by 20%. And under Ben's leadership, we delivered for the environment, became a national leader in wind energy, and highlighted by our Steel for Fuel strategy. We've crippled our total wind capacity from 3,400 megawatts to over 10,000 megawatts, and our own wind growing from 300 megawatts to more than 4,000 megawatts. We've significantly reduced the level of coal in our fuel mix from 50% to 21%, and we reduced our carbon emissions by 51% compared to our 2005 baseline. We were the first major U.S. utility to establish a 100% carbon-free goal, while remaining a stalwart champion for reliability and affordability. We've delivered excellence for our financial stakeholders as well. We've tripled Xcel Energy's market cap from $12 billion to $37 billion, and our stock price has increased from $24 per share to to almost $70 per share, reflecting a TSR of 300% and outpacing our peer group. We've met or exceeded our earnings guidance every year and increased our dividends in line with our earnings growth. And beyond Xcel Energy, Ben's recently served as chairman of EEI, leading through pandemic uncertainties, driving focus on the need for increased levels of research and development for new technologies, and inspiring his peers to define diversity and inclusion priorities for their organizations. He's had a tremendous run as CEO and will leave a lasting legacy at Xcel Energy for the utility industry, and I would go so far as to say for the country. So thank you, Ben, and congratulations on your upcoming retirement in August. I look forward to your continued leadership at the board level and partnering with you on important federal policy efforts related to infrastructure and clean energy. Looking ahead, I'm honored with the opportunity to lead this great company. and I recognize the LeBron James-sized shoes that I'm filling. Since joining Xcel Energy five years ago, Ben and I have worked closely on the development and the execution of our strategy, and that will not change. We'll continue to lead the clean energy transition, enhance our customers' experience, and we'll constantly work to keep our customers' bill low and deliver an affordable product. We've had a fantastic leadership team and significant bench strength. and I'm confident in our ability to capitalize on the growth opportunities in front of us while maintaining our commitment to reliability and affordability. I'm excited about our growth opportunities over the next decade, driven by our generation resource plans, transmission expansion, distribution investments, and our electric vehicle vision. As we move forward, innovation is more critical than ever as we prepare to move from 80% carbon reduction by 2030 to 100 percent carbon-free electricity. I'll be focused on clean technologies in both our electric and our natural gas businesses, as well as how we engage with customers in new ways through a more flexible grid. I also expect innovative work practices will continue to drive efficiency and produce strong operational results. And safety is another area where I plan to help drive innovation. As one of our core values, safety is already a priority. but we can do even better. I want us to move beyond traditional metrics and embrace a heightened focus on prevention and culture change, eliminating the most serious events by encouraging trust, transparency, and learning. In the coming months, I look forward to continued engagement with our customers, our communities, our regulators, our investors, and of course our workforce. We have the best employees in the business, and I am proud of what we've accomplished, and I'm excited for the future successes that we'll achieve together. And to our investors, we appreciate the trust that you place in us and will continue to be good stewards of your investments. Now, turning to the quarter, today we reported solid quarterly earnings of 58 cents per share compared to 54 cents per share last year. We're off to a good start, and we are reaffirming our 2021 guidance. We've made significant progress on various regulatory initiatives, including three constructive rate case settlements that Brian will discuss in more detail. In addition, we've advanced our plans for adding incremental renewables. In Wisconsin, the Commission approved our proposal for the 74-megawatt Mustang solar project for $100 million, which will be the largest solar facility in western Wisconsin. In June, the Minnesota Commission approved our proposal to buy out a repowered 120-megawatt wind farm PPA for $210 million from Elite. This re-powered project will save our customers money while extending the life of a renewable energy resource. And the Minnesota Commission continues to evaluate our $575 million proposal to build a 460 megawatt solar facility. It takes advantage of existing transmission as we phase out of coal. We are confident the Commission will see the customer and economic benefits and expect a decision later this year or early in Q1 of next year. Additionally, as part of our continued commitment to foster a skilled and diverse workforce, we proposed a training program in Minnesota to help those in underrepresented communities develop the skills to succeed in energy-related construction careers. Program graduates will have the opportunity to be considered for participation in our Sureco solar proposal and other future projects. In June, we filed an alternative Minnesota resource plan, which achieves an 85% carbon reduction by 2030. This proposal addresses the concerns of various parties by removing the SHRCO combined cycle from consideration and replacing it with two combustion turbines. Key components of the revised plan include an early retirement of both the King and the SHRCO three coal units in 2028 and 2030 respectively, a life extension for our Monticello nuclear plant, construction of new transmission lines in order to take advantage of the interconnection rights from the retiring coal units, In the addition of 3,150 megawatts of universal solar, 2,650 megawatts of wind, 800 megawatts of new hydrogen-ready CTs, and 300 megawatts of repowered Black Start CTs, 1,900 megawatts of flexible peaking resources, and 250 megawatts of new storage. We've provided the Commission with an outstanding resource plan that will reduce carbon while maintaining reliability and customer affordability. We expect a decision on the Minnesota resource plan later this year or early next. In addition, we continue to make good progress and are in the discovery phase of the Colorado resource plan and associated transmission power pathway project. We expect a commission decision on both proposals in early 2022. And between Minnesota and Colorado resource plans, we anticipate adding nearly 10,000 megawatts of new renewables to our system to meet our 80% carbon reduction goal by 2030. With that, I'll turn it over to Brian.

Thanks, Bob, and good morning, everyone. We had a good second quarter, recording 58 cents per share compared with 54 cents per share last year. The most significant earnings drivers for the quarter include the following. Higher electric and natural gas margins increased earnings by 19 cents per share, primarily driven by riders and regulatory outcomes to recover our capital investments. In addition, A lower effective tax rate increased earnings by $0.06 per share. As a reminder, production tax credits lower the ETR. However, PTCs are flowed back to customers through lower electric margin and are largely earnings neutral. Offsetting these positive drivers were increased appreciation in interest expense, which reduced earnings by $0.09 per share, reflecting our capital investment programs. Increased O&M expenses, which reduced earnings by $0.07 per share, And lower APDC decreased earnings by 5 cents per share, largely due to placing several large wind farms into service last year. Turning to sales, weather normalized electric sales increased by 5.3% in the second quarter. This reflects a comparison to last year when the pandemic restrictions in our states were at their highest levels and our sales were most depressed due to COVID impacts. Our year-to-date weather and leap year adjusted electric sales increased 1.6%. we continue to anticipate modest annual weather-adjusted sales growth of approximately 1%. Shifting to expenses, O&M increased $50 million for the quarter, which largely reflects the timing of expenses between the two periods. Last year, we had significant O&M reductions in the second and third quarter to offset the impact of lower sales from COVID, while the fourth quarter was at higher levels. So the quarterly O&M comparisons will be chunky this year. Turning to regulatory filings, we reached constructive settlements in three rate cases. In Wisconsin, we agreed to a rate increase of $66 million over 2022 to 2023 based on an ROE of 9.8% in 2022, 10.0% in 2023, and an equity ratio of 52.5%. In New Mexico, we agreed to a rate increase of $62 million, reflecting an ROE of 9.35% and an equity ratio of 54.7%. We also accelerated the depreciation life of our coal plant to 2032 as we planned for its early retirement. In North Dakota, we agreed to a rate increase of $7 million based on an ROE of 9.5% and an equity ratio of 52.5%. We anticipate commission decisions in these cases later this year. In July, we filed a Colorado electric rate case seeking a net rate increase of $343 million based on an ROE of 10% and an equity ratio of 55.6%, and a 2022 forecast test year. The rate case is largely driven by capital investment, and we anticipate a commission decision in the spring of 2022. We also have a pending Texas electric rate case. We're seeking a net rate increase of $74 million after reflecting fuel savings and PTCs from the Sagamore Wind Farm. The request is driven by capital investment and is based on an ROE of 10.35% and an equity ratio of 54.6%. Commission decision is expected in the first quarter of 2022 with a surcharge back to March 2021. As far as future filings go, we anticipate filing a Minnesota electric rate case in November with interim rates going into effect in January of 2022. We also plan to file a Minnesota natural gas case later this year. With that, I'll wrap up with a quick summary. We received commission approval for the Mustang Solar Project and the Elite Wind PPA Repowering Buyout. We provided an alternative to our Minnesota Resource Plan, which will deliver 85% carbon reduction by 2030, provide transparency into our long-term opportunities. We reached constructive rate case settlements in Wisconsin, New Mexico, and North Dakota. We filed our Colorado electric rate case. We reaffirmed our 2021 guidance range. And finally, we remain confident we can deliver long-term earnings and dividend growth in our 5% to 7% objective range. Now, before we open up for questions, I'll turn it over to Ben for some closing comments.

Well, thanks, Brian, and good morning, everyone. You know, it's really been an amazing decade as CEO and before that as CFO. I'm really proud of the tremendous accomplishments we've made as a company. I'm extremely proud of the incredible efforts and contributions our employees make in serving our customers and our local communities. I've also really enjoyed the interactions I've had with our investors and the financial community. I appreciate your interest in the company, your feedback, and your suggestions. I'm going to miss that. You know, it's really hard to retire from a role that I've truly enjoyed, but I'm leaving the company in great hands. I know that Bob, Brian, and the rest of the management team will continue to do an outstanding job leading Xcel Energy well into the future. I also plan on attending EEI this fall, and I look forward to seeing a lot of you there. So thank you all, and with that, operator, let's open it up for questions.

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, if you'd like to ask a question today, please press star and then one on your touchtone phone. If you are using a speakerphone, you might have to pick up the handset or depress the mute function so the signal can reach our equipment. Again, that is star and then one if you would like to ask a question today. And we'll take our first question from Jeremy Tonnet from JPMorgan.

Hi, good morning. Ben, congratulations and best of luck moving forward.

Thank you very much. Appreciate it.

I just want to start off, I guess, with the renewables. And if you could expand, I guess, on how the pipeline looks for incremental renewables after the SHRCO and the wind repowering and also, I guess, how local stimulus efforts might influence this going forward.

Hey, Jeremy, good morning. It's Bob, and thanks for the note this morning. You know, we filed resource plans in both Colorado and in Minnesota, and as we work through those proceedings, you know, I'd say by first quarter next year, we'll have real visibility into the outcomes of both of those, and we'll move forward with what we'll call resource acquisition plans, where we proposed projects and we solicit input from others for projects that are coming. I think if your question is around where we are in the R&R Recovery Plan in Minnesota in particular, the four wind repowerings were approved in December, the Elite Repowering Project was just approved in June, and we still have the Sherco Solar Project that is proposed that we hope for approval by end of this year or maybe early next.

Got it, that's helpful, thank you. Maybe just pivoting over to Uri, if we could, just wanted to see the early stages of your Winter Storm Uri recovery proceedings, how they're progressing, and what changes, if any, do you expect operationally going forward?

Sure. So we have approvals in, I think, four of our states at this point, and we're still working through proceedings in three others. I think the largest of those is both Minnesota and Colorado. We're still working through the proceedings on as well as Texas. You know, our expectation is, you know, we acted in accordance with all of our regulatory regulations, prior policies and procedures. And so we do expect a full recovery of our incurred costs on winter storm URIE. I think looking forward, Colorado has opened a docket to explore alternate mechanisms for us and others in the state to look at, and they've proposed an alternative. We've commented it's a NOPR, so they're looking for input, and we've commented to the NOPR, and we expect some resolution and some hearings in that process in the third or fourth quarter of this year.

Got it. That's helpful. I'll leave it there. Thank you. Thank you.

And we'll take our next question from Julian Dumula-Smith from Bank of America Securities.

Hey, Julian, good morning. Hey, good morning. Hey, morning, and congrats, Ben. It's been a pleasure. We'll see you soon, I'm sure. But thanks. If I can, absolutely. I look forward to seeing you at the, if I can pivot to the transmission side in brief here. you all talked previously about this Colorado being potentially expanded over time. Obviously you're looking for the first phase here to be approved. Um, as you talked about in the prepared remarks, but can you talk about, um, subsequent, uh, co-ownership partners and just ultimately expansion of what you guys have underway here, if there's been any progress.

Yeah, certainly happened to, um, But before I get started, actually, I think that congratulations are in order for you and Bea, and look forward to your pending nuptials next year. So congrats.

Thank you so much. I sincerely appreciate that.

Hey, on transmission in particular in Colorado, we put forward what we think is a pretty progressive plan, Julian. Historically, we'd have generation be put forward first, and then you'd follow up with the transmission that's necessary. I think, you know, where we are, and certainly in Colorado, and where I think a lot of the country is actually, is we need to build a substantial amount of transmission to relieve congestion to enable the renewables that we see are necessary to complete this clean energy transition. So in Colorado, we've put forth what we call the power pathway. You know, that's largely, I'll call it a superhighway of transmission lines through the eastern plains of Colorado that to connect the good solar and wind resources of the eastern half of Colorado with the load centers predominantly in Denver and in the I-25 corridor. So that path, along with the Colorado Resource Plan, are progressing in parallel, two separate dockets, but in parallel. We expect resolution on both of them by, you know, late this year, probably early next year. And, you know, your comment on We've got a base plan, and I call that sort of we're going to build the freeway, but we also have to build the on and off ramps and things like that. So while the base plan for the freeway itself I think is about, and Brian, correct me if I'm wrong, somewhere in the $1.7-ish billion range, but we need to build voltage and bar stability. Once we find out exactly where the generation resources are going to exist, Then we need to build support along that freeway for how those transmissions will integrate with the broader bulk electric system. And that's sort of where that incremental and variation in sort of the base plan versus the other things that we'll need to do once we identify exactly where the resources are. So like I just mentioned to Jeremy, we'll conclude the phase one of the resource plan, you know, in Q1 of next year. And that point we'll go into resource acquisition. And that's where we pick the resource in exact locations, and then we can have a better, more granular answer to your question on what's the total pathway cost above and beyond sort of the base system. Does that make sense?

Yep, totally. I get it. Excellent. And if I can pivot to a slightly related question, if you don't mind, what are you seeing in terms of the impacts across your portfolio here vis-a-vis inflation, cost structure, logistics, just as you guys look at your renewable build here? And perhaps just some of the timing on, for instance, Sherco here, perhaps not necessarily related, but just do you think about some of the decision-making trees?

Yeah, hey, Julian. It's Brian. Good to hear from you. Yeah, you know, certainly we're seeing inflation. You know, if you're just looking at the headlines, right, we're not immune to some of the headlines that, you know, everyone is seeing. You know, for us, it's, you know, inflationary pressures of commodities such as steel, copper, and labor, right? But really, we think it's transitory in nature, and I think we found it is pretty easy to shut down the economy, and it's a lot more challenging to restart the economy from the supply chain and the demand that has followed the shutdown of the economy. Something that we are focused on and practically managing from a supply chain perspective, so we don't see any significant impacts as we sit here today. Now, specifically, if I want to touch on a couple of the major projects we have in flight, The four wind repowerings that we have, we feel really good about those in Minnesota. Those are partial repowering, so I think blades in the inside of the nacelles are not replacing the steel towers, so we're not facing steel price risk there, and so we don't really face any significant inflationary pressures on those, so I feel good about that. The large-scale solar farm that we have in front of the Minnesota Commission, I'm sure everyone's aware of the solar panel pricing that has been increasing this year. But we look at that. We have a lot of flexibility in terms of construction and when we place that in service in terms of what year. So we feel really good about that project, too. So overall, no, something we're certainly focused on and watching, but don't see any real impacts as we sit here today.

Awesome. And just to clarify from your guide here, the shift in O&M is offset by the gas sales? Just super nuanced there for 21 years.

The shift, you know, I would say gas sales, you know, certainly good to see, you know, an uptick in gas sales from zero to 1%. But if you remember, gas is a pretty small piece of our business, so a 1% change in gas margins is about $4 million. So I wouldn't say it necessarily fully offsets it.

Okay. All right. Fair enough. Hey, thanks again, guys. We'll see you soon. Thank you. Appreciate the questions.

And we'll take our final question from Ryan Levine from Citi.

Thank you. A couple of questions, one on transmission to follow up on some of those points. It looked like in your presentation you highlight $300 million of CPCN for that project. It looked like previously there was a $250 million number that was out there for the May Valley Longhorn expansion. Are we seeing Are you seeing cost inflation on that particular project, or is there another dynamic that may cause the change in number?

No, look, I think we're still in very early innings on sort of exact routings and pathways. I wouldn't read too much into that, Ryan.

Okay. I mean, are there a lot of different pathways that you're, no pun intended, around the way that that project can get built out? or is it fairly visible from your mind in terms of how the project will be constructed?

Well, look, I think we haven't gone through local permitting. We've got a lot of just local land processes we'll have to go through. And we're early stages in engineering of that project. I think we felt it was really important to make sure that the transmission and the generation proceeded in parallel. And so I think that as we go through time, as we get better engineering, as we get better insight into the land processes, those routes will be very specific. There's still a pretty big range of capital expenditures for that. A lot of it's based on final routing and final land approval costs. So like I said, I wouldn't read too much into that particular lag extension.

Okay. And then lastly, in terms of some of the recent legislation in Colorado, pertaining to gas. Are you anticipating any material impact to your business around some of the recent SB21-246 and 1238 and 1286 and some of the others that have recently passed? Can you repeat those again, Ryan?

That's quite a litany of bill numbers. Let me just – I'll talk a little bit about the Clean Heat Plan in Colorado and maybe even to a parallel path, the Innovative Gas Act that was also approved here in Minnesota. You know, look, I think both of those bills recognize that we're in early innings of lowering our customers' emissions from the gas LDC businesses and not – dissimilar to what we went through in the mid-90s with renewables. I mean, the technology is nascent, and the solutions are relatively expensive. But we also recognize we need to start somewhere. And so I think that the legislation in both places recognize those facts. And look, we will do pilots. We'll introduce technology. We'll look at beneficial electrification and energy efficiency programs. All tools that maybe aren't readily available under the current regulation schemes today, but these pieces of legislation allow for some of that innovation to happen on the gas LDC side. I think the legislation also recognizes it's really important to respect the reliability and affordability, and I think each state addressed it slightly differently, but there's a cap in Colorado in regulatory approval for plans. And in Minnesota, similarly, their regulatory approval for the pilots, that makes sure that they're cost-justified and beneficial for our customers as well as we think about lowering their emissions profile from the gas LDC business. So we were very active in both of those pieces of legislation, and we are working with the regulatory agencies to look at how we write the regulations for those pieces of legislation. And then we'll be active as we put proposals forward to help our customers reduce their footprint emissions profile in each state. So, yeah, I think there's opportunity here. And, you know, we're going to continue to work with our commissions and our stakeholders.

I appreciate it.

You bet.

And it looks like we have a question from David Peters from Wolf Research.

Yeah, hey, good morning. And I echo the congrats to Ben. Just one question for me. As you guys make progress working through your IRPs in Colorado and Minnesota and then the transmission opportunities as well, it just seems like there's a lot of incremental CapEx opportunities above some of the more basic blocking and tackling. Just how would you kind of characterize that within the context of the kind of 5% to 7% growth targets you've targeted here recently?

Yeah, hey, David. Thanks for the question. This is Bob. I guess similar to Julie and I, I might have to start with congratulations to you for your recent nuptials yourself. So we have two of those on the call today. Thank you. In terms of incremental capital growth, Yeah, I think there's some projects still out there that we're working through regulatory processes on, the largest of which is the Sure-Go Solar, which we talked about. I think longer term, you know, we've got base proposals on our resource plans and for our transmission planning. Stuff that's not included in the near term is obviously MISO and SPP transmission expansion plans, and those are generally outside of our five-year forecasting. but definitely in sort of a 10-year vision forecast. And then we expect, you know, our base rate-based growth plan to be right around 7%. And so any incremental, I think there's a couple incremental projects that could take us above that. I think we'd expect to keep our 5% to 7% earnings growth rates. And, you know, we can reevaluate that regularly, and we do. but I think right now we're just comfortable with being at the high end of our guidance routes.

Yeah, and Dave, I just added that. I think what you hear from us, what we're really focused on doing is providing our investors with that long-term transparency as we work through our resource plans in Minnesota and Colorado this year, looking at almost 10 gigawatts renewables by 2030 between those two, plus the associated transmission that comes in Colorado and what we've could expect to see out of MISO here is giving investors that transparency into extending and really feeling good about the long-term growth rate, not through this five, but talk about it through the decades. So something we're focused on.

Great. Thank you for the call.

And we have a question from Paul Patterson from Glenrock Associates.

Hey, good morning, Paul. Hey, good morning. Congratulations, Ben. Absolutely. So just there have been some comments out of Colorado from some of the commissioners regarding rates and sort of the cumulative impact, et cetera. And you mentioned on the call, I think, that you don't see any significant, you think that the inflation issues that we have currently are sort of transitory. But I'm wondering, in terms of your goals, and I think there's pretty much to be somewhat below the rate of inflation. Are we still on track with that with respect to your outlook in the various jurisdictions? Has there been any change in that because of the transitory impact or anything else that we should think about?

Hey, Paul, it's Bob, and I'll let Brian chime in if I miss anything. But in particular with respect to Colorado, I think that the – Our customers' bills in Colorado are about 35% less than the national average and have been basically flat for the past five years. And although we filed a rate case out there, we expect even after the rate case, they're still going to be 25% below the national average. If you've got everything we asked for. If you've got everything in the case that we asked for, it will still be 25% below the national average. But your longer-term question is, do we think we continue this – transition to a cleaner energy economy cost-affordably? And the answer to that is yes. And the impact that we're seeing for inflation, we would say, are still relatively transitory. I think some of the macroeconomists would sort of agree with that comment. We think that we can transition our states at less than the rate of inflation over the next 10 years to an 80% carbon reduction. Colorado in particular will be 85% carbon reduction, less than the cost of inflation. So I think our strategic thesis holds, and we don't see this, you know, current spat of restarting the economy as derailing our longer-term plans.

Yeah, and I would say, you know, you see that in our resource plans, right, where we kind of show the bill impacts over the next decade in both Colorado and Minnesota. And we run those resource plans in the cases we put forward to the commission with the current tax policy. And, you know, there's a lot of discussion in D.C. about, you know, a long-term extension of federal tax credits around clean energy. And we certainly support, fully support Senator Wyden's Clean Energy for America Act. And, you know, when we run that analysis, that's really good for our customers in terms of those extension of credits. It only brings down the cost as we make this transition.

Okay. And just your long-term, just for, obviously, it could change, but your long-term inflation expectations are around 2% still, is that right?

Yeah, longer term.

Yep. Okay. Awesome. Thanks so much, guys. You bet.

And we have a question from Ashar Khan with Verdean.

Ben, I just wanted to dial in to congratulate you. I've known you for a long time and the company did wonderfully well and hope Bob can continue in that space. So congrats again. And if I can ask one industry question, I know you've been heading the EI and trying to get the nuclear PTCs across the board in the legislative front. Could you give us any update where we stand on that endeavor?

Well, It will likely be part of the $3.5 trillion budget reconciliation process. And, you know, there's a lot of moving parts with that. And the first part of that will be just giving the budget resolutions to the various committees. And that will establish how much funding those committees have to pursue broad topics, which we believe will ultimately include the nuclear PTC. We'd like to see that in August. Uh, and then of course the actual legislation would take place in the fall. Um, again, there's a lot of moving parts. As you know, it's a 50 50 Senate and a very narrow margin in the house. So it's a balancing act, but, um, uh, we are definitely advocating for that. We're advocating for, as Brian mentioned, um, um, Senator Whiten's bill. Uh, we think, uh, direct pay, uh, PTC for solar. These are things that are going to really help the clean energy transition be affordable for our customers and the industry in general. And I look forward to seeing you perhaps at EEI.

Certainly, certainly, certainly. Thank you so much. You got it.

And it appears we have no further questions at this time. I will turn the conference back over to Brian Van Abel, CFO.

Yeah, thanks all for participating in our earnings call this morning. Please contact our investor relations team with any follow-up questions. Thanks, everyone.

And once again, ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude today's conference. We appreciate your participation today.